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Post by macy on Apr 16, 2007 20:08:45 GMT -6
I am not going to give my name to Paul Lehman so I won't adrress him directly since he has already said that he will not respond. I still don't get what the issue is for him. There sure seems to be a lot of holes in his account of when letters were written to whom and why. I don't understand why this is coming out right now. I wish he had filled int he blanks a little better. What I don't understand is why the district was hiding the fact that they had discussions with him. I know there was some confidentiality agreement, but that seemed to be coming from the Superintendent and the SB. To this day I don't understand why this was kept from the general public? You all say the site is not adequate (power lines, road access, etc.). If the site was so bad, why the secrecy from the public. And another thing, I simply don't understand the public outrage directed toward any candidate simply seeking information about the Macom land. What is wrong with finding out and communicating to voters what really happened during these discussions? |
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 17, 2007 5:47:32 GMT -6
I am not going to give my name to Paul Lehman so I won't adrress him directly since he has already said that he will not respond. I still don't get what the issue is for him. There sure seems to be a lot of holes in his account of when letters were written to whom and why. I don't understand why this is coming out right now. I wish he had filled int he blanks a little better. What I don't understand is why the district was hiding the fact that they had discussions with him. I know there was some confidentiality agreement, but that seemed to be coming from the Superintendent and the SB. To this day I don't understand why this was kept from the general public? You all say the site is not adequate (power lines, road access, etc.). If the site was so bad, why the secrecy from the public. And another thing, I simply don't understand the public outrage directed toward any candidate simply seeking information about the Macom land. What is wrong with finding out and communicating to voters what really happened during these discussions? Then you've never worked under confidentiality agreements. There is a reason these get put into place and you don't reveal information from them - there are legal ramifications of doing that. I work with them all the time and I do not understand how people can say , well why not just reveal this or that.... I have not seen this particular one, and there is no bolierplate for them, they are usually customized with what can be said, dates of coverage for the agreements, people involved etc. My breach of a confidentiality agreement at my corporation would result in immediate dismissal and potential legal reponsiblity as an individual not as an employee, so let's also please remember there was one in place. Also remember only one side appears to have stepped out from the confidentiality agreement ( and maybe what he as revealed wasn't covered - again haven't seen it but don't know) - but there are some touchy items there that may still be covered that can't be revealed - maybe the disposition of the family that lives on the property, maybe the impact of the power substation etc etc . The outrage is not that candidates contacted him, the outrage, just like the CFO connections is that the candidates talked around this fact and in fact hid these items from their agendas. Michelle Davis at least thought enough of it at one forum to spend her closing statement explaining the contact - she got the fact that people felt this should have been told to the voting public by those who had contact, not revealed by Paul Lehman himself in the papers. |
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 17, 2007 5:55:12 GMT -6
Macy, first there has to proof of an e-mail for some. I think I just got my proof. Yes we did, of a lot of things. |
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 17, 2007 6:03:10 GMT -6
The great thing about the internet is that we can remain anonymous. I think if the questions are asked in a mature way then you should still answer them. I don't think people's real identity should be an issue. Let me add this. There is no way to prove who anyone is on this message board. I could just lie about who I am and claim to be anyone. When letters are sent out to the community, does he know who everyone is ? Of course the whole community did not get the correspondence so maybe the answer to that is it only got sent to certain people. I have lived here almost 20 years and did not get this information, so who was the mailing list ? Just my opinion which only counts for one person and one vote, but one vote to be cast in about 20 minutes, nonetheless. |
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Post by macy on Apr 17, 2007 6:03:53 GMT -6
I think I just got my proof. Yes we did, of a lot of things. Not sure what you mean here Dr. Who. It was Paul Lehman who responded on this very site claiming to have written the email, correct? Strange how this site was down for hours shortly afterwards. I've been reading this site for a long time and have never seen that happen. Seems odd it was the evening before the election. |
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Post by EagleDad on Apr 17, 2007 6:07:01 GMT -6
Macy, I posted a notice about the maintenance windows last night. Due to not having any moderators available the evening before election it was in maintenance mode last night. Sorry for the inconvenience but it was only from 9:30PM until 5AM. Surely you survived.
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Post by gatormom on Apr 17, 2007 6:08:07 GMT -6
Macy, PL went to the papers with this memo first. Big news right, no. They chose not to do anything because, this is just a rahash of everything he has spun since he first went to the papers.
Let me ask you something, how can he justify evicting an elderly couple from their home? That is not sugar coating a problem, that is dismissing the lives of those people. I find that appalling.
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 17, 2007 6:08:34 GMT -6
Yes we did, of a lot of things. Not sure what you mean here Dr. Who. It was Paul Lehman who responded on this very site claiming to have written the email, correct? Strange how this site was down for hours shortly afterwards. I've been reading this site for a long time and have never seen that happen. Seems odd it was the evening before the election. I'll let the mods explan why -- but remember it is down for both sides of opinion - so how would that be unfair ? What I learned is that a lot of issues were brought up again ( and likely there are more) but zero solutions offered except a statement that all can be fixed in 60 days. We have already seen quotes from city engineers on timeframes for street movement issues, but I guess they are not in on the 60 day fixes. What about the people who live there ? What about the effects of the substation ? Do the wheels of government move quickly enough to revert land from one entity to another in 60 days - I think we have already seen, no it does not. Also thought it interesting that not only is the SB being blamed, but the papers are irresponsible too. |
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Post by macy on Apr 17, 2007 6:12:35 GMT -6
Macy, I posted a notice about the maintenance windows last night. Due to not having any moderators available the evening before election it was in maintenance mode last night. Sorry for the inconvenience but it was only from 9:30PM until 5AM. Surely you survived. The timing of the "maintenance" windows seemed strange to me. Shortly after Lehman posts a response the site was out. |
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Post by EagleDad on Apr 17, 2007 6:14:15 GMT -6
Well Macy, sorry I didn't gain your personal authorization ahead of time. It's online now, move on.
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Post by Arch on Apr 17, 2007 6:14:29 GMT -6
Please show me the last time something even half of this magnitude pushed through a city body in 60 days.
How long has Prairie View Apartments or Hobson Pond been in front of the various city organizations?
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Post by bob on Apr 17, 2007 6:22:50 GMT -6
I am outraged that the boards were closed. My First Amendment Rights were violated. ;D
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 17, 2007 6:24:31 GMT -6
Macy, I posted a notice about the maintenance windows last night. Due to not having any moderators available the evening before election it was in maintenance mode last night. Sorry for the inconvenience but it was only from 9:30PM until 5AM. Surely you survived. The timing of the "maintenance" windows seemed strange to me. Shortly after Lehman posts a response the site was out. someone 11 responses managed to get in before the conspiracy started -- the mods must be slipping  I think the reason has been explained, there cannot be any free for alls because no moderators are available on a site where that is not allowed. the site was up for 90 minutes after the post - hardly a short time. Plenty of time today to respond and today is voting day. I would be interesting as to what in that post made a difference in your vote ? What news news did any of us learn, maybe I missed it. |
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Post by macy on Apr 17, 2007 6:31:48 GMT -6
The timing of the "maintenance" windows seemed strange to me. Shortly after Lehman posts a response the site was out. someone 11 responses managed to get in before the conspiracy started -- the mods must be slipping I think the reason has been explained, there cannot be any free for alls because no moderators are available on a site where that is not allowed. the site was up for 90 minutes after the post - hardly a short time. Plenty of time today to respond and today is voting day. I would be interesting as to what in that post made a difference in your vote ? What news news did any of us learn, maybe I missed it. There was much banter back and forth as to where the email came from. It seemed there were many that believed KK sent the letter out. |
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Post by bob on Apr 17, 2007 6:36:22 GMT -6
Well he still might have sent the letter out after receiving it. It's called forwarding an e-mail. KK got it before any of us and we represent a cross section of the SD.
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