One parcel, two trials?

[doctorwho]

harry said:

bob said:

Sounds what a former SB candidate spouted. So where are you going to add on at WV?

The SB told a group of parents @ Steck that an addition onto WV was estimated at 25 to I believe 40M

So the space is there to do it, unless, or course, they did not look into this bid with any conviction

OK -- although I never remember seeing any plan that allowed architecturally for an addition to WV - I will take your word for it

so $25- $40 M for WV

and how much for NV ? lets say another $25-$40M

then a new middle school ( that we now get back from WV Gold ) -

starting to look like a familiar number ? And what do we end up with - 2 high schools at 5000+ each - NV likely larger ! The logistics at NV do not work for the enrollment now - lets add another 1000 - 1500 students to those hallways --

[bob]

Dr, might want to recheck your numbers. ;D

Here is the HS population for the 8 years using last year's enrollment numbers.

2015 9154
2014 9088
2013 9059
2012 9118
2011 9075
2010 8922
2009 8778
2008 8311

This is about a 10% increase coming down the pipe.

[doctorwho]

lacy said:

doctorwho said:

Okay -- what if the ES school number is flat but the MS/HS enrollment is up 500 ? 750? - just a guess

pure speculation

Do we still not need the facility as is being claimed here ?

We'll have hard numbers at the end of September - right now all speculation

We're building a high school for an enrollment increase of 500 - 750 kids?

And why aren't we talking about Happy Mom's post - instead the conversation is about retrofitting Petersen (which wouldn't have been a bad idea).

But what about HappyMom's post? Kinda like that white elephant in the room everyone wants to ignore....

is that school not going to be utilized as an ES ?

and the 500 - 750 is one years increase - that MS-HS number will continue to grow - and the HS are over crowded already - so I am not sure how you arrived at the conclusion that is what it is being built for.

[doctorwho]

bob said:

Dr, might want to recheck your numbers. ;D

Here is the HS population for the 8 years using last year's enrollment numbers.

2015 9154
2014 9088
2013 9059
2012 9118
2011 9075
2010 8922
2009 8778
2008 8311

This is about a 10% increase coming down the pipe.

just speculation Bob, let's see it play out 9/30.....who knows - I could be wrong. WV is built for how many students ? Can they remotely handle their share of 9200 ?

[momto4]

lacy said:

momto4 said:

More like unavoidable. I have already written this is one of the reasons I'm glad not to be within the boundaries of the new HS. However the benefits of having a third HS more than outweigh some missed opportunities in the first couple of years. What would you propose be done about this? I don't think juniors and seniors should be forced to change schools.

So since it's not your kid, the benefits outweigh the missed opportunities (that other kids will have to deal with). Is that what you're saying?

You are so good at twisting things around! I said that it's an unavoidable situation. I said I'm glad it's not me. Even if it was me, it would be well worth it because we NEED MORE SPACE. If the HS magically got built on the Eola Rd. church property it would by my kids going there and yes I feel my current 7th grader would have a different HS experience going to a newly opened building then if we stay at WV but it's certainly not all bad. The district did it before with NV and all was fine. Not the same as if there weren't a new building, but still fine.

Instead of twisting my words, tell me how you would solve the issue of setting up (for example) extra-curriculars when the older kids who should be the club officers aren't there? I'm hopeful that having some experienced staff in charge of the clubs will help make up for the lack of experience and the (initial) lower number of members.

[Arch]

Displace Juniors and Seniors or impact varsity sports... take your pick.

[wvhsparent]

Well this topic has launched from the track.............

[doctorwho]

archwinsome said:

Displace Juniors and Seniors or impact varsity sports... take your pick.

I still think 'neither' is a viable option with some work before the school opens --

[Arch]

So Lacy, what did you mean by benefits outweighing the missed opportunities?

Were you implying that the school should not even open and instead sit idle if that was the case?

[lacy]

archwinsome said:

So Lacy, what did you mean by benefits outweighing the missed opportunities?

Were you implying that the school should not even open and instead sit idle if that was the case?

Mom4 talked about benefits and missed opportunities. You might want to check her post so you can understand.

And thanks for responding, Mom4 - I wasn't twisting what you said - I was trying to understand, which is why I asked you a question.

[harry]

doctorwho said:

harry said:

The SB told a group of parents @ Steck that an addition onto WV was estimated at 25 to I believe 40M

So the space is there to do it, unless, or course, they did not look into this bid with any conviction

OK -- although I never remember seeing any plan that allowed architecturally for an addition to WV - I will take your word for it

so $25- $40 M for WV

and how much for NV ? lets say another $25-$40M

then a new middle school ( that we now get back from WV Gold ) -

starting to look like a familiar number ? And what do we end up with - 2 high schools at 5000+ each - NV likely larger ! The logistics at NV do not work for the enrollment now - lets add another 1000 - 1500 students to those hallways --

Nope, build a new MS on the property that the SB felt a need to purchase 2 1/2 YEARS AGO (couldn't we have opened the doors on a new MS in 2 1/2 years???)

keep the gold campuses, frontier and add portables and/or additions where needed on the HS

Problem solved

[Arch]

lacy said:

archwinsome said:

So Lacy, what did you mean by benefits outweighing the missed opportunities?

Were you implying that the school should not even open and instead sit idle if that was the case?

Mom4 talked about benefits and missed opportunities. You might want to check her post so you can understand.

And thanks for responding, Mom4 - I wasn't twisting what you said - I was trying to understand, which is why I asked you a question.

You seemed it worthy to point out and ask, as if there was some astonishment to it. So, would you continue to open the school if there were going to be some 'missed opportunities' there for the first 1 or 2 years or not?

[Arch]

harry said:

doctorwho said:

OK -- although I never remember seeing any plan that allowed architecturally for an addition to WV - I will take your word for it

so $25- $40 M for WV

and how much for NV ? lets say another $25-$40M

then a new middle school ( that we now get back from WV Gold ) -

starting to look like a familiar number ? And what do we end up with - 2 high schools at 5000+ each - NV likely larger ! The logistics at NV do not work for the enrollment now - lets add another 1000 - 1500 students to those hallways --

Nope, build a new MS on the property that the SB felt a need to purchase 2 1/2 YEARS AGO (couldn't we have opened the doors on a new MS in 2 1/2 years???)

keep the gold campuses, frontier and add portables and/or additions where needed on the HS

Problem solved

About that 'where needed' part. How many do you recommend and where should they be placed, and what classes should be in them?

[blankcheck]

Harry, I agree. It was sold to us a long time ago (with the freshman campuses) that NV could always have additions put onto it. So use the 25 acres for a middle school. As I stated a long time ago, you could even see if COD would offer another off campus site that would be a little easier for WV students to attend as well. Again, we do still have 300 empty seats at Frontier.

[warriorpride]

casey said:

Aaahhh, Lacy, you figured it out! One is not allowed to make any comment that can be perceived as negative to WVHS but as far as NVHS - have at it!!! I agree I do think there is a double-standard there.

If anyone, God-forbid, stands up and says they want to stay at NVHS they often are challenged but not so at WVHS. Somehow it's allowed and promoted to say one is happy at WVHS (but not always allowed to say it about NVHS) - big surprise? I think not. There's no doubt that most parents are happy at whatever high school their kids are at and most do not want any change. Can't everyone accept the fact that as parents we are all passionate about our kid's school whether it be NVHS or WVHS.

Actually, it's the anti-WV statements that I and others are sick & tired of.