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Post by macy on Sept 28, 2007 15:36:05 GMT -6
Not Flip-flopping at all unless your point is that an acre of land costs the same amount of money regardless of where it is located. Not sure I would agree with that. Is there a minimum parcel of land available that is at least 65 acres? Don't know if there is or not but we better be sure there isn't. Apparently to 8 people, an acre of land actually costs near double to other comps at any given time frame.. Personally I wish we could just buy whatever acreage we could get for the money set aside (with whatever cushion) and leave them with the rest; as long as it's still enough to put a school on and get it underway. Taking 14 steps back to square one just seems counter productive when the students who need the room are going to be here regardless of where it gets built. If there's another affordable amount of land, I'm on board in a heartbeat, but it has to be found and found soon with a commitment to sell.. otherwise it could wind up right back to square 1 with another condemnation suit and we all now know how those can go. I'm even on board for a smaller HS to keep the total cost within budget as long as the district as a whole still has the needed capacity for what is in the pipe. Frankly, I'm surprised Paul's not come forth yet. How do you know he hasn't? I guess you mean come forth to the public? I'm sure hoping he's having a conversation with the district.
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Post by southsidemom on Sept 28, 2007 15:38:15 GMT -6
Macy, of course you mean with his donation of free land to the district, right
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Post by macy on Sept 28, 2007 15:40:22 GMT -6
Macy, of course you mean with his donation of free land to the district, right Wouldn't that be a dream at this point. I'm just hoping he's still willing to sit at the table with us and negotiate. Who knows... what a mess this is.
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Post by bob on Sept 28, 2007 15:40:28 GMT -6
The problem in that DCYST says he is possibly selling the land to a private HS developers which would help out too.
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Post by macy on Sept 28, 2007 15:41:33 GMT -6
The problem in that DCYST says he is possibly selling the land to a private HS developers which would help out too. Bob, I've heard that (on this board) as well but I'm confused. How would that "help out". I think he should help us out. Forget the private school.
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Post by casey on Sept 28, 2007 15:45:47 GMT -6
Macy, That's not what people want. Paul Lehman is apparently the Big Bad Wolf. Wouldn't it be a kick in the pants if the SB actually had to negotiate for his land and our 3rd HS ended up there? Personally, I doubt it would ever come to that since the SB is NOT about to back down from BB. I still say no matter what they will see to it that we have something on that property. For the record, I don't agree with that mentality.
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Post by Arch on Sept 28, 2007 15:47:34 GMT -6
Apparently to 8 people, an acre of land actually costs near double to other comps at any given time frame.. Personally I wish we could just buy whatever acreage we could get for the money set aside (with whatever cushion) and leave them with the rest; as long as it's still enough to put a school on and get it underway. Taking 14 steps back to square one just seems counter productive when the students who need the room are going to be here regardless of where it gets built. If there's another affordable amount of land, I'm on board in a heartbeat, but it has to be found and found soon with a commitment to sell.. otherwise it could wind up right back to square 1 with another condemnation suit and we all now know how those can go. I'm even on board for a smaller HS to keep the total cost within budget as long as the district as a whole still has the needed capacity for what is in the pipe. Frankly, I'm surprised Paul's not come forth yet. How do you know he hasn't? I guess you mean come forth to the public? I'm sure hoping he's having a conversation with the district. Last time it was announced it in the paper. I checked this morning and did not see it, so call it an educated guess.
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Post by macy on Sept 28, 2007 15:50:00 GMT -6
How do you know he hasn't? I guess you mean come forth to the public? I'm sure hoping he's having a conversation with the district. Last time it was announced it in the paper. I checked this morning and did not see it, so call it an educated guess. Maybe he's not putting information in the paper this time since many people slammed him the last time he did that. Considering the situation the district is in, wouldn't you think he's just waiting for the phone to ring? And it had better ring.... That property needs to be seriously considered this time around.
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Post by casey on Sept 28, 2007 15:53:43 GMT -6
Just because it's not in the paper doesn't mean it's not happened. I'm sure that Paul Lehman is more than involved at this point. Don't fool yourself - he wants to sell that property to the SB. Maybe he'll be our "knight in shining armour!" LOL. At this point though I think that there should at least be communication on the part of the SB to see if there's any opportunity there. It's not a great location and there are obvious reasons that it may not be the answer but wouldn't it be worth investigating further? As far as the couple with lifetime rights maybe they can just simply be moved a little south and west to Peterson. I hear there's room there! That is of course meant as a joke!
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Post by Arch on Sept 28, 2007 15:55:05 GMT -6
Any property needs to seriously be acquired and started on. If it's down south, fine. If it's BB w/ a scaled back school (2500 was the figure someone was tossing out) then fine. If it's up north. fine. It needs to be gotten and started.
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Post by macy on Sept 28, 2007 16:00:42 GMT -6
Any property needs to seriously be acquired and started on. If it's down south, fine. If it's BB w/ a scaled back school (2500 was the figure someone was tossing out) then fine. If it's up north. fine. It needs to be gotten and started. Agree here. Any available land needs to be considered. Even if that means delaying the school opening. To "bite the bullet" and pay millions more for land than absolutely necessary is a mistake in my opinion. It is simply not fiscally responsible.
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Post by Arch on Sept 28, 2007 16:02:52 GMT -6
Any property needs to seriously be acquired and started on. If it's down south, fine. If it's BB w/ a scaled back school (2500 was the figure someone was tossing out) then fine. If it's up north. fine. It needs to be gotten and started. Agree here. Any available land needs to be considered. Even if that means delaying the school opening. To "bite the bullet" and pay millions more for land than absolutely necessary is a mistake in my opinion. It is simply not fiscally responsible. Neither is paying more in construction costs or paying for a temporary disposable solution to cover that delay when the kids are at the high school level and exceeding the working capacities of the existing buildings. I think we agree in principle, it's the details where we differ.
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Post by EagleDad on Sept 28, 2007 16:14:44 GMT -6
Frankly, at this point if Lehman/Macom would sell the land to the district for a reasonable price and get off of it quickly I'd jump at it and shaft BB. I'll even give them naming rights.
"Macom Stadium" anyone? Sound good Paul? how about we throw in "Lehman Library" as well?
I'm not above eating my words if it gets Metea underway this year. Paul can be my knight in shining armor, I'm jiggy with that.
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Post by bob on Sept 28, 2007 16:26:31 GMT -6
We can't start at macom until at least Spring. Road is still there and it runs right through the middle of his plans.
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Post by macy on Sept 28, 2007 16:30:54 GMT -6
Frankly, at this point if Lehman/Macom would sell the land to the district for a reasonable price and get off of it quickly I'd jump at it and shaft BB. I'll even give them naming rights. "Macom Stadium" anyone? Sound good Paul? how about we throw in "Lehman Library" as well? I'm not above eating my words if it gets Metea underway this year. Paul can be my knight in shining armor, I'm jiggy with that. I couldn't agree more.... Lehman High sounds good to me.
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