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Post by harry on Oct 1, 2007 9:37:48 GMT -6
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it would not be condemning a church.. it would just be virgin land owned by the church (no place of worship) for which they would get compensated (and nicely too as we found out). If there was a structure in place then I would say no way. Is it still empty land or is there an actual place of worship there? Nothing but farmland & a St Johns sign that's been there for about 2 years. Atually there is one house on the property, too. Oh, no - another single house getting in the way of progress :-( 2 years?? I think it has been up there for much much longer |
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Post by wvhsparent on Oct 1, 2007 9:48:54 GMT -6
Parcel # 07-08-104-009 Purchased in 10/2003 for 6 Million..... Per Naperville Twp. www.napervilletownship.com/NewPSrc/ParcelDetail.aspxOh yeah, They have been using our schools for their "place of worship" for quite a while too (Currently at Gregory MS?)....maybe we should increase their fee for that.......Gotta make up the money somehow.... |
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Post by bob on Oct 1, 2007 10:01:19 GMT -6
Parcel # 07-08-104-009 Purchased in 10/2003 for 6 Million..... Per Naperville Twp. www.napervilletownship.com/NewPSrc/ParcelDetail.aspxOh yeah, They have been using our schools for their "place of worship" for quite a while too (Currently at Gregory MS?)....maybe we should increase their fee for that.......Gotta make up the money somehow.... $6 million, boy, did they get a deal. A jury just said the same type of land was worth $28 million with about the same time frame. ;D  |
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Post by momof3 on Oct 1, 2007 10:05:36 GMT -6
Nothing but farmland & a St Johns sign that's been there for about 2 years. Atually there is one house on the property, too. Oh, no - another single house getting in the way of progress :-( 2 years?? I think it has been up there for much much longer Excerpt from a Sun article a while back - there is a family living there but they know it's temporary. Local families face uncertain future as agricultural acreage dwindles in DuPage
Sun, The: Wheaton (IL)
May 18, 2007
Author: By Jennifer Golz
Estimated printed pages: 3 .....Creeping development Despite relocating his family from their Iowa farm last year to Naperville, Galusha assistant farm manager Wendall Boehlje, 41, said he remains optimistic. The family of four live on a working 85-acre farm on Naperville's far west side. But even that is a temporary parcel for Galusha to farm, as either side of the farmhouse the Boehljes live in is flanked by billboards announcing the future site of St. John African Methodist Episcopal Church. It is only a matter of time before the church also terminates its contract with Galusha to develop its site on which the Boehljes live. |
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Post by macy on Oct 1, 2007 10:14:50 GMT -6
I wouldn't be in favor of condemnation. That could be not only bad Karma but also another long legal battle. I would be in favor if the property owner could come to agreement with the district. You would not be in favor of condemning the church because it is bad karma but it would be okay to evict the elderly couple from the Macom land? I gave two reasons for not wanting to go after St. Johns. Most importantly, I'm against another major condemnation for time reasons. Again, my rationale on the elderly couple is the balance of the two evils. If it meant getting 3000 kids into a school within our financial means.. I don't think condemnation in terms of the elderly couples property would go on as long as condemning St. Johns land either. |
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Post by macy on Oct 1, 2007 10:16:39 GMT -6
1. Same size school with same amenities- different location that is less expensive. 2. 2500 seat high school is a new concept that I'd have to hear more about (on BB if that is our only land option). That's where I'm at right now. Most importantly, I'd like to hear more about the possibility of building on the Macom land. If it's possible without a huge time delay and it's substantially less expensive, it's a no brainer for me. Also, it would be possible to almost replicate the same boundary map for that land. if you have put together the boundaries ( that work size wise) for a school now located so much further south, and without entire areas driving past schools to get to the new one - or driving though areas going somewhere else - I would be interested to see it. A lot more travel for many of us is what I fear -- and all that extra traffic and distance our jrs and srs have to negotiate ( not really that huge a concern for me but was a huge issue for some when the distance was only a mile or 2 different so should be the same concern for all) I don't think it's that much further south. I haven't put together the boundaries either. I was under the opinion that the majority here don't see a major boundary shift with Macom. I tend to see a case that they could be relatively similar. |
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Post by macy on Oct 1, 2007 10:21:17 GMT -6
Who said anything about evicting "the elderly couple"? The land adjacent to them is going to be developed into something - plain and simple - and they know that because they sold it - right? I think the situation is completely different from what you are trying to imply. And if I were them, a high school would be preferable to a car wash or something else. Until the "elderly couple" speaks or someone with some actual knowledge clues us into their position, let's stop painting this as a bad thing for the "elderly couple". Seems like FUD to me. I think Macom said the elderly couple can stay as long as they want. They mentioned we can build around them. It seems to me that they are in a situation where something is going to be built around them in the next few years. I agree that the high school is one of the better alternatives. |
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Post by bob on Oct 1, 2007 10:22:44 GMT -6
What schools are suppose to go to MV at BB?
WE,Colishaw,Owen,Fry,Gombert, Watts, Longwood?
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Post by doctorwho on Oct 1, 2007 10:26:34 GMT -6
What schools are suppose to go to MV at BB? WE,Colishaw,Owen,Fry,Gombert, Watts, Longwood? Yes -- |
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Post by gatormom on Oct 1, 2007 10:30:57 GMT -6
I think Macom said the elderly couple can stay as long as they want. They mentioned we can build around them. It seems to me that they are in a situation where something is going to be built around them in the next few years. I agree that the high school is one of the better alternatives. Yep, I know I would rather live in the parking lot of a high school as opposed to being surrounded by the townhomes Macom is supposed to build. |
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Post by macy on Oct 1, 2007 10:33:42 GMT -6
It seems to me that they are in a situation where something is going to be built around them in the next few years. I agree that the high school is one of the better alternatives. Yep, I know I would rather live in the parking lot of a high school as opposed to being surrounded by the townhomes Macom is supposed to build. Are you in favor of condemnation of the St. John's property? |
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Post by gatormom on Oct 1, 2007 10:35:51 GMT -6
Yep, I know I would rather live in the parking lot of a high school as opposed to being surrounded by the townhomes Macom is supposed to build. Are you in favor of condemnation of the St. John's property? No. But it is a better site for the school, IMO, than Macom. |
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Post by doctorwho on Oct 1, 2007 10:37:01 GMT -6
if you have put together the boundaries ( that work size wise) for a school now located so much further south, and without entire areas driving past schools to get to the new one - or driving though areas going somewhere else - I would be interested to see it. A lot more travel for many of us is what I fear -- and all that extra traffic and distance our jrs and srs have to negotiate ( not really that huge a concern for me but was a huge issue for some when the distance was only a mile or 2 different so should be the same concern for all) I don't think it's that much further south. I haven't put together the boundaries either. I was under the opinion that the majority here don't see a major boundary shift with Macom. I tend to see a case that they could be relatively similar. Crone vs. BB ( for instance) adds over 5.3 miles to the trip from Longwood school and over 3.8 miles from Owen. People were screamng last time over a mile here and there. |
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Post by Arch on Oct 1, 2007 10:39:32 GMT -6
Yep, I know I would rather live in the parking lot of a high school as opposed to being surrounded by the townhomes Macom is supposed to build. Are you in favor of condemnation of the St. John's property? As we've seen, condemnation is a gamble... I'd rather work w/ current owners to get a fair settlement without all the court costs. However... If there was a church on the property.. no, don't even consider condemnation. Since there's not I see it in the same light of Macom and BB... Needs of the many... |
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Post by southsidemom on Oct 1, 2007 10:46:39 GMT -6
ssm maybe if those parishioners knew the asking price, they might be pursuaded to believe in the money god instead ;D Good one, Harry. I doubt it but if you think so encourage the SB to give it a try. Let's see the outcome.  |
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