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Post by rew on Nov 8, 2007 16:12:49 GMT -6
Daeschner: You can't get to where we are now through any logic you can understand. The situation all changed with some things we would have never guessed at the time. It's like walking and falling into a ditch. Never anticipated it.
No, Dr Dascner, the community could not have anticipated, because time and time again we had the assurances of the SB that all was well. It was in fact the SB/SD's duty to anticipate the problems and plan for them. It's notl like negotiating a land contract and building a school ranks up there w going to Mars. I bleieve it's been done a couple of times before. And what logic was defied?? They KNEW what BB was asking for the land!
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Post by lacy on Nov 8, 2007 16:14:57 GMT -6
Rew - I agree completely. When will they ever take responsibility? They were over confident they could get the land in a timely manner and over confident that the price would be what they anticipated.
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Post by harry on Nov 8, 2007 16:21:11 GMT -6
It has to be exactly what we've been discussing, AME, and Macom. And again tell me if AME knows what Macom is offering, what's the point of all the secrecy? Oh,of course, to keep people from screaming at the top of their lungs how screwed up the whole mess is. How they made promises and walked away from them. "Falling in a ditch"? The SD/SB didn't fall in a ditch, they pushed us into it. This is the critical issue....mistakes made over and over and over again....How can anyone in this district trust the SB selection on anything at this juncture??? What a mess
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Post by rew on Nov 8, 2007 16:29:06 GMT -6
Harry, you use the word trust and it means nothing to me. I don't trust the SB or the district or my boss or any politicians to do what's best for me. I never did.
What I did was elect people that promised to carry out what the voters wanted. In the SB elections the community spoke loud and clear that they did not want candidates that supported "free thinking and plan B". That was so evident.
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Post by rew on Nov 8, 2007 16:47:01 GMT -6
I want a parent advisory board to make the site selection. Let reps from each ES look at the final offers and vote. Why not? It's already a circus.
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Post by harry on Nov 8, 2007 16:53:29 GMT -6
Harry, you use the word trust and it means nothing to me. I don't trust the SB or the district or my boss or any politicians to do what's best for me. I never did. What I did was elect people that promised to carry out what the voters wanted. In the SB elections the community spoke loud and clear that they did not want candidates that supported "free thinking and plan B". That was so evident. Well, we have definitively passed Plan B and are on Plan F.
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Post by momof3 on Nov 8, 2007 17:51:59 GMT -6
Daeschner: You can't get to where we are now through any logic you can understand. The situation all changed with some things we would have never guessed at the time. It's like walking and falling into a ditch. Never anticipated it.
No, Dr Dascner, the community could not have anticipated, because time and time again we had the assurances of the SB that all was well. It was in fact the SB/SD's duty to anticipate the problems and plan for them. It's notl like negotiating a land contract and building a school ranks up there w going to Mars. I bleieve it's been done a couple of times before. And what logic was defied?? They KNEW what BB was asking for the land! Funny old email from Howie. Now we are in a ditch! Wonder if it is that giant ditch running through the Macom property? Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 4:11 PM You may have read in the local newspapers that a Naperville area developer proposed a concept to sell Indian Prairie a parcel of land in the southwest portion of the district for the construction of Metea Valley High School. The Board of Education reviewed but did not accept the developer's concept last October for several reasons. The proposal involved portions of property the developer did not own and involved multiple other parties and additional hurdles. No financial incentive for the district was offered. The referendum presented to the community was based on the Brach-Brodie land and boundaries were determined. Those boundaries would no longer be in effect if the location of the school changed. In our opinion, the location of the land and boundaries are contributing factors to why people voted as they did. A promise was made to the community and the community supported the district by passing the referendum. Further, when the two parcels of land are compared, we believe Brach-Brodie is still the best property for the high school. It is easy for someone to speculate on land value in the newspaper, but ultimately the value has to be proven in court. Although the land acquisition is taking longer than the we would like, we are confident that the district will purchase the Brach-Brodie land for a fair price as the legal process continues to move forward. Howard Crouse Superintendent
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Post by bob on Nov 8, 2007 18:02:24 GMT -6
I have a feeling Bolingbrook is a huge possibility. Those boundaries really throw a wrench into everything.
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Post by macy on Nov 8, 2007 18:05:57 GMT -6
A Bolingbrook site throws a MAJOR wrench into the boundaries. To add, a St. John's (or further northern site) would be explosive in terms of boundaries.
Interesting quote from Howie. Question is now, is the Park District land swap possible/probable and is Macom sweetening the deal?
ETA: financial incentive? that's pretty funny now. Had we gone with that site a year ago, the school could be on it's way to a 2009 opening (saving 8-10 million according to the board in construction cost increase) and at a much lesser cost in terms of land than Macom.
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Post by Arch on Nov 8, 2007 18:12:58 GMT -6
I could like a Bolingbrook site.
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Post by rew on Nov 8, 2007 18:14:19 GMT -6
Why does the Bolingbrook site throw a huge wrench, more than a north site?? We already crunched the numbers ...SB, BU, GRHM, KEND go to SE site and OWEN and COW or MW goes to NV
It's all monkey wrenches, but there are plenty of kids south to fill a HS
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Post by macy on Nov 8, 2007 18:18:40 GMT -6
rew.
let me clarify. I meant, it throws a complete different boundary view than Metea at Macom.
I think a northern location is a complete hardship for the SB to figure out.
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Post by bob on Nov 8, 2007 18:21:08 GMT -6
I must have missed the Bolingbrook boundary discussion. A school there, only, needs 4 grade schools?
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Post by macy on Nov 8, 2007 18:22:15 GMT -6
I missed it as well.
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Post by macy on Nov 8, 2007 18:24:05 GMT -6
I want a parent advisory board to make the site selection. Let reps from each ES look at the final offers and vote. Why not? It's already a circus. I agree. Also, and I'm fully expected to be completely roasted for saying this, why not boundary from Middle school?
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