Now What? Dist. 204 officials talk about Metea Val

[rew]

Torches and pitchfoirks?? I'm thinking flame throwers and grenade launchers....

Do you think the board has not heard from enough people? Maybe the Brach Brodie supporters were a little too quiet?

[wvhsparent]

It's actuall another testament to Voter apathy which is unfortunately the norm around here.

[rew]

But the point is I wasn't apathetic...I had no info. The entire month the board was meeting in executive session, I thought they were ironing out the details, getting their ducks in a row. A lot of people thought they were going to proceed with the purchase, as promised.

Just like now. Are they going to announce a new site and say "Gee, we didn't get any feedback?" I haven't emailed them because I have no idea what to say! They haven't given me any info to comment on!

[rew]

So now I know what to email them

"YOU SCREWED UP and MY KIDS ARE THE ONES PAYING FOR IT."

I still want to knoiw...if BB is $31M and we now have an estimate of $5M in lawyers fees and $1M in engineering fees, and increased construction costs and now Dr D says modulars...what site is going to come in significantly lower than all that???

[proschool]

rew said:

So now I know what to email them

"YOU SCREWED UP and MY KIDS ARE THE ONES PAYING FOR IT."

I still want to knoiw...if BB is $31M and we now have an estimate of $5M in lawyers fees and $1M in engineering fees, and increased construction costs and now Dr D says modulars...what site is going to come in significantly lower than all that???

The lawyer fees and modulars will not come off construction costs.

[lacy]

I find it very hard to believe that with as long as they have been in litigation over this site that the attorney fees are only $1 million. Furthermore, M2 doesn't know what they are?! Come on.

And yet if we walk from BB we owe them $4 million in attorney fees.

If this is so, what kind of lawyers did we hire?!

[lacy]

This portion of the discussion I find particularly annoying - where M2 says:

"You had some people then who went into a mode where (they asked) "When are you going to hold a big town hall meeting on this?" By the time they started asking that question, I was able to write back to a lot of those people and say here are the 12 to 15 things people have suggested and made a case for. Do you have something to add to that list? Because if you don't, I'm not sure what the purpose of a town hall meeting would be."

So basically, they don't want to hear from the public unless the public has a solution for them. Well how are we supposed to solve their problem when we don't have access to the information they do? We are completely in the dark.

News flash to M2 - I think people wanted and want a meeting so that the SB can explain what the h*ll they are doing. They are accountable to us. He doesn't seem to have any grasp of this concept.

[Arch]

I believe you misinterpreted. I personally wouldn't want to hear the same thing 20 times in a row when once gets it on the list of things to consider.

It was soliciting for anything new, which would ADD to the list, not repeat that which has already been asked/mentioned. It wasn't asking for a solution, it was asking for anything ADDITIONAL.

[blankcheck]

This is a joke. Have no idea what the lawyer fees are? Smaller high schools? Hello- were we not sold a bill of goods with the freshman centers? Closed meetings - very little input from the public? are they crazy? They have not given the public a chance. Advice - what Whitt law firm can't give them good advice? At what cost to us for this bad advice? Ask Dave Helm? Heck, you are the president of the school board and you have no idea what this is costing us? Pathetic!

[lacy]

archwinsome said:

I believe you misinterpreted. I personally wouldn't want to hear the same thing 20 times in a row when once gets it on the list of things to consider.

It was soliciting for anything new, which would ADD to the list, not repeat that which has already been asked/mentioned. It wasn't asking for a solution, it was asking for anything ADDITIONAL.

No, I didn't misinterpret anything.

At what point do they provide information to us?

Communication with them shouldn't be a one-way street where they only solicit input (as long as it isn't something they haven't already heard). And how valuable can that input really be when we don't have access to the information they do?

For example, how can we provide input on different sites when we don't know what they are??

[Arch]

lacy said:

archwinsome said:

I believe you misinterpreted. I personally wouldn't want to hear the same thing 20 times in a row when once gets it on the list of things to consider.

It was soliciting for anything new, which would ADD to the list, not repeat that which has already been asked/mentioned. It wasn't asking for a solution, it was asking for anything ADDITIONAL.

No, I didn't misinterpret anything.

At what point do they provide information to us?

Communication with them shouldn't be a one-way street where they only solicit input (as long as it isn't something they haven't already heard). And how valuable can that input really be when we don't have access to the information they do?

For example, how can we provide input on different sites when we don't know what they are??

This assumes full disclosure of things every step of the way, which is not always the case in real estate transactions and negotiations.

You know BB is a site that was on the list, you know Macom was a site on the list, you know AME was a site on the list. Which do you have new information about and what is that information.

If you post it here, I'm sure someone can email it to the board.

Do you have new information about Macom or BB or AME or any other site? If so, Share it.... or do you not want to disclose this new information?

[lacy]

archwinsome said:

lacy said:

No, I didn't misinterpret anything.

At what point do they provide information to us?

Communication with them shouldn't be a one-way street where they only solicit input (as long as it isn't something they haven't already heard). And how valuable can that input really be when we don't have access to the information they do?

For example, how can we provide input on different sites when we don't know what they are??

This assumes full disclosure of things every step of the way, which is not always the case in real estate transactions and negotiations.

You know BB is a site that was on the list, you know Macom was a site on the list, you know AME was a site on the list. Which do you have new information about and what is that information.

If you post it here, I'm sure someone can email it to the board.

Do you have new information about Macom or BB or AME or any other site? If so, Share it.... or do you not want to disclose this new information?

What the heck are you talking about?! What information could I possibly have - I'm just one of the many taxpayers footing the bill.

The point is - IMO they are hiding behind the whole "we are in negotiations" argument and they are deliberately keeping the public in the dark IMO.

It's they who should share information with us. I wasn't aware that I didn't make that perfectly clear in my above posts. Hope you can understand it now.

[Arch]

You can have your opinion about HIDING, but until the ink is dry on a piece of paper, they have not closed a deal; to me, that means they are still in negotiations.

I'm not sure what other step they can be in if they haven't made a purchase yet. Please enlighten us, since you feel this is all just a big hiding game.

[wvhsparent]

archwinsome said:

I believe you misinterpreted. I personally wouldn't want to hear the same thing 20 times in a row when once gets it on the list of things to consider.

It was soliciting for anything new, which would ADD to the list, not repeat that which has already been asked/mentioned. It wasn't asking for a solution, it was asking for anything ADDITIONAL.

OK Give the current list and I will see if I have anything to add to it. WE DON"T EVEN KNOW WHAT IS ON THE LIST! so how can we add to it?

[Arch]

wvhsparent said:

archwinsome said:

I believe you misinterpreted. I personally wouldn't want to hear the same thing 20 times in a row when once gets it on the list of things to consider.

It was soliciting for anything new, which would ADD to the list, not repeat that which has already been asked/mentioned. It wasn't asking for a solution, it was asking for anything ADDITIONAL.

OK Give the current list and I will see if I have anything to add to it. WE DON"T EVEN KNOW WHAT IS ON THE LIST! so how can we add to it?

Do you want a link to the 'email the school board' button on their website?