Dist. 204 ready to OK boundaries (Daily Herald)

[bob]

lacy said:

bob said:

Some people here say the bridge matters. Well if we go by the last referendum, a majority of TG voters said it didn't matter. The people of TG voters voted for it, knowing they would go to MV @ BB. All that has changed is that instead of MV @ BB, they would go about a mile west to WV. If the bridge didn't matter to the majority of TG in the last election , why should it now?

I think so, so much has changed since then.

I think a better question is if the vote were taken today would the referendum even pass?

The bottom line is the only change for Fry is that it is going to WV instead of MV.

[bob]

brad204 said:

lacy said:

I just can't help but think that someone so interested in solving problems and deciding who has a valid point and who doesn't has some sort of agenda......hmmm.

The 7 kids won't be just 7 when the area builds out - put all of Petersen back into WVHS.

I just want to clarify the situation. If you take the build rate for the past three years we are not going to be fully grown for 29 years. Even if you half that to take into account the current slow down we are still talking about a long time.

But lets run the numbers:

1. We have 117 lots developed and ready to go. That includes the 44 currently built.

2. We have 161 lots platted, not developed with no immediate plans to develop.

3. We have 261 lots not platted, not developed and no plans to develop anytime soon.

That is a total of 539 lots.

(shout out to Mad Mark for the numbers)


We are not trying to use our size to execute an agenda. We are just asking to be kept with someone until a certain critical mass is met. Heck, put it in a document somewhere. When Ashwood Park gets to X size the following events occur.

Believe me I will be happier than anyone if houses start falling out of the sky

We are being split twice both MS and ES. Split the ES in such a way that the third split to be so darn small. Single digit % of the whole. For all those saying that splits are fine. I think this one invalidates it being fine.

That is my agenda.. That is all... nothing more, nothing less..

I like the idea of a criticla mass number. Really hoping they do something for you.

[lacy]

bob said:

lacy said:

I think so, so much has changed since then.

I think a better question is if the vote were taken today would the referendum even pass?

The bottom line is the only change for Fry is that it is going to WV instead of MV.

Was Scullen a split middle school under the old scenario too?

Was most of Petersen going to NVHS or was it WVHS?

Nice effort trying to frame things, but it's more complicated than what you're suggesting. More investigative work has gone into the bridge since last time and it's very supportive of the community. It's also under construction now.

[bob]

lacy said:

bob said:

The bottom line is the only change for Fry is that it is going to WV instead of MV.

Was Scullen a split middle school under the old scenario too?

Was most of Petersen going to NVHS or was it WVHS?

Nice effort trying to frame things, but it's more complicated than what you're suggesting. More investigative work has gone into the bridge since last time and it's very supportive of the community. It's also under construction now.

MS were never set in BB and no plans were made public.

And what happens to Peterson doesn't affect you .The only Peterson change is the small section south of 111th.

Neither one affects Fry's high school.

The bridge didn't matter to Fry in the referendum that sent Fry to MV/BB vote so why does it matter now? All that has changed is the HS and a mile.

[jwh]

sleeplessinnpvl said:

lacy said:

Where do you live?

Didn't your mommy teach you never to give out your address on the internet?

My you seem a bit obsessed with where I live. I suppose if I tell you, then you will scream that I have an agenda so why should I bother. Let's just assume I do have an agenda. So what? Doesn't everyone on here have some sort of an agenda? I am still entitled to my opinion. My opinion is that other people have it worse than you. I have spoken with friends that are "safe" within the protected SE area of Naperville and they, too, believe that there are others out there that have it worse than Fry. They are safe and they don't have an agenda. I'm sure we are all entitled to our opinions, just like you are entitled to yours. I guess we can agree to disagree.

I agree with you Sleepless. Let's focus on the ones truly getting the short stick (May Watts, Owen). Some changes the SB may possibly consider.

[concerned]

bob said:

Some people here say the bridge matters. Well if we go by the last referendum, a majority of TG voters said it didn't matter. The people of TG voters voted for it, knowing they would go to MV @ BB. All that has changed is that instead of MV @ BB, they would go about a mile west to WV. If the bridge didn't matter to the majority of TG in the last election , why should it now?

TG was able to rise above the fact that they didn't get what they wanted and voted for a 3rd HS. Not that they dismissed the bridge. Your statement is soooooo off base.

[rew]

I think you are right jwh, but I also think you would not be getting a new HS if it weren't for TG and WE's YES votes, so a little less attitude would be nice.

[gatormom]

jwh said:

sleeplessinnpvl said:

Didn't your mommy teach you never to give out your address on the internet?

My you seem a bit obsessed with where I live. I suppose if I tell you, then you will scream that I have an agenda so why should I bother. Let's just assume I do have an agenda. So what? Doesn't everyone on here have some sort of an agenda? I am still entitled to my opinion. My opinion is that other people have it worse than you. I have spoken with friends that are "safe" within the protected SE area of Naperville and they, too, believe that there are others out there that have it worse than Fry. They are safe and they don't have an agenda. I'm sure we are all entitled to our opinions, just like you are entitled to yours. I guess we can agree to disagree.

I agree with you Sleepless. Let's focus on the ones truly getting the short stick (May Watts, Owen). Some changes the SB may possibly consider. TG and WE are going to WV. Done.

Does Gombert being split in half qualify as getting the short stick. No matter, we are just chess pieces anyway, just kidding. Gotta love being T1. ;D

By the way folks, many of the teachers of your children live in my neighborhood.

[bob]

concerned said:

bob said:

Some people here say the bridge matters. Well if we go by the last referendum, a majority of TG voters said it didn't matter. The people of TG voters voted for it, knowing they would go to MV @ BB. All that has changed is that instead of MV @ BB, they would go about a mile west to WV. If the bridge didn't matter to the majority of TG in the last election , why should it now?

TG was able to rise above the fact that they didn't get what they wanted and voted for a 3rd HS. Not that they dismissed the bridge. Your statement is soooooo off base.

According to you, TG didn't dismiss the bridge and rose above it and voted for the 3rd HS and also accepting the proposed boundaries sending them to MV/BB. Now TG is sent to WV but can't rise above it for WV?

Got it.

[concerned]

bob said:

concerned said:

TG was able to rise above the fact that they didn't get what they wanted and voted for a 3rd HS. Not that they dismissed the bridge. Your statement is soooooo off base.

So TG didn't dismiss the bridge and rose above it and voted for the 3rd HS and also accepting the proposed boundaries sending them to MB/BB. Now TG is sent to WV but can't rise above it for WV?

Got it.

Again Bob you are sooooo wrong about our community. I am sooo sure you live in a community that is safe and just wants to see TG get screwed. Why, you feel this way, I can't figure it out. I just quoted Sleepless about putting Gombert into NV, but that is made no sense because it is far from the subdivision. NV is in our backyard. Yes, we want to go there because it is sooo close, that is it. We also wanted to see fair and logical boundaries. I bet if they put all of Peterson into WV, there would not be such an uproar in our community. This plan stinks of politics!!! That angers me.

[bob]

Wait, if Peterson gets to come along you're okay with Fry going to WV?

[concerned]

No Bob, stop putting meaning behind my words. WE NEEDED TO SEE FAIR AND LOGICAL BOUNDARIES. To carve out certain areas and chop the hell out of them looks IMO very bad and political. The administration went so far as to put out a false memo on the bridge. They lied and they should be held accountable for that. It would of looked so much better if they called it as is, but no they lied. Smells of agendas to me. This is why we are angry.

[bob]

concerned said:

No Bob, stop putting meaning behind my words. WE NEEDED TO SEE FAIR AND LOGICAL BOUNDARIES. To carve out certain areas and chop the hell out of them looks IMO very bad and political. The administration went so far as to put out a false memo on the bridge. They lied and they should be held accountable for that. It would of looked so much better if they called it as is, but no they lied. Smells of agendas to me. This is why we are angry.

Your quote

I bet if they put all of Peterson into WV, there would not be such an uproar in our community.

The bridge didn't matter when Fry voters supported going to MV/BB. Why should the bridge matter now when it didn't matter then?

[concerned]

Bob, it would of looked fairer if they did not split the hell out of Peterson. The bridge did matter then and it does now. What is your beef with TG Bob? Stop painting my area as you do.

[204family]

bob said:

concerned said:

No Bob, stop putting meaning behind my words. WE NEEDED TO SEE FAIR AND LOGICAL BOUNDARIES. To carve out certain areas and chop the hell out of them looks IMO very bad and political. The administration went so far as to put out a false memo on the bridge. They lied and they should be held accountable for that. It would of looked so much better if they called it as is, but no they lied. Smells of agendas to me. This is why we are angry.

Your quote

I bet if they put all of Peterson into WV, there would not be such an uproar in our community.

The bridge didn't matter when Fry voters supported going to MV/BB. Why should the bridge matter now when it didn't matter then?

The bridge has always mattered. Back then, they said they wouldn't consider the bridge until it was built. Fine, it wasn't up, so I moved on. Personally, I was fine being pulled from the school 1 mile from my house b/c we were being bussed to a school that was just down the street. Didn't seem like that big of a deal distance wise to me. The location made sense for a majority of the schools---that made sense to me.