Dis 204 sets...borders DH art. 2.20.08

[bob]

MOST of Fry is within 1.5 miles from the school. I believe it's 80% to Gold and 50% to main.

Bussing isn't determined as the crow flies.

[twhl]

bob said:

The Fry community accepted being bussed to BB/MV. Why the change now?

Move WV to the BB site and I bet they would.

[twhl]

bob said:

MOST of Fry is within 1.5 miles from the school. I believe it's 80% to Gold and 50% to main.

Bussing isn't determined as the crow flies.

Not true Bob ask the state, there distances are exactly how the crow flies. or better yet ask the SB.

[lacy]

anotherview said:

Lacy ,
I did not mean to belittle just trying to be realistic. I have walked by the bridge many times . I find it very hard to believe that the amount of kids that will walk will be that many. I understand Fry being upset. My kids have gone to many different school while living in the same house not by choice. Most of the time not with their friends. Was I happy no but I guess I though it was best for the district . I have no agenda Just trying to look at the big picture.

It is not part of the standards to say "well, they'll never walk anyway."

Students who are classified as walkers are not bused. I think we know all about that over here because we are not bused to Scullen or Fry. Some walk, some don't.

If they don't walk they get a ride - Laidlaw doesn't come pick them up.

So telling us that no one would use it (which I disagree with as well) is lame.

I'm sure a good portion of Stillwater that are classified as walkers are actually driven. (And of course we know the entire northern part of the neighborhood is bused)

[Arch]

wolverine said:

sushi said:

I understood that the STATE has declared Rt. 59 a hazard. Because MOST of Fry is over 1.5 miles from the MAIN CAMPUS, they are not deemed walkers. Do we need a translater??

Seems to me Fry was thrown under the buss because only a portion were walkers, and if you allowed the walkers to walk, you'd split Fry. In doing so, you'd set a dangerous precedent that it was OK to split ES'. Once you do that, you open the door to the possibility that, Oh MY! , Steck and McCarty could be split!! M2 and CV wouldn't allow that... That's why Watts, McC, and Steck weren't seriously discussed.

SB used the transportation memo and some built-in prejudice against Fry to mask the real issue - Fry had to stay bussers so Steck and McC could remain "walking schools".

How many of them still call other mommies to make play dates for their high schoolers?

[researching]

sushi said:

I understood that the STATE has declared Rt. 59 a hazard. Because MOST of Fry is over 1.5 miles from the MAIN CAMPUS, they are not deemed walkers. Do we need a translater??

Untrue. Call yourself. We did. We even documented it. Unlike the district we can site each of our sources.

[lacy]

twhl said:

bob said:

Bussing isn't determined as the crow flies.

Not true Bob ask the state, there distances are exactly how the crow flies. or better yet ask the SB.

No they're actually walking distances down sidewalks, etc.

But can we really trust Karla about anything? Did she get anything right in that memo?

[wvhsparent]

refbasics said:

d204mom said:

Tall Grass will have one and most likely 2 years to make full use of the bridge before MV opens. If the TG busses to NV are empty starting next fall that is a very compelling argument to remedy this situation before MV opens. Would make a very strong statement, anyway.

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i think i could state, for a fact, that there are more MSchoolers & HSchoolers in the whole SD walking HOME from school after school, activities, clubs, etc. than walking in the morning TO school because kids are in a hurry in the a.m, in the winter, it's colder in the a.m.... most kids don't get up early enough- altho i see a few brave souls who ride their bikes and skateboards(!) to school in the a.m.(even with heavy backpacks!)

i don't think anyone could argue with the above fact!

I don't dispute that more may walk home after.
However there are many areas now that don't have that luxury and they have all seemed to flourish.

[wvhsparent]

twhl said:

bob said:

Bussing isn't determined as the crow flies.

Not true Bob ask the state, there distances are exactly how the crow flies. or better yet ask the SB.

They stated at the Meeting last night it is via the best route, not crow flies.

[bob]

twhl said:

bob said:

Bussing isn't determined as the crow flies.

Not true Bob ask the state, there distances are exactly how the crow flies. or better yet ask the SB.

From what I have gathered from SB members and admin, it is a safe walking route. This is why Steck buses and McCarty buses. If it was as the crow flies, we wouldn't have as many bus routes.

Like I siad before. The 1.5 mile rule is ridiculous. It should be moved down to a mile, due to the climate here alone.

[researching]

wvhsparent said:

twhl said:

Not true Bob ask the state, there distances are exactly how the crow flies. or better yet ask the SB.

They stated at the Meeting last night it is via the best route, not crow flies.

Who decides what the best route is?

[twhl]

bob said:

twhl said:

Not true Bob ask the state, there distances are exactly how the crow flies. or better yet ask the SB.

From what I have gathered from SB members and admin, it is a safe walking route. This is why Steck buses and McCarty walks buses. If it was as the crow flies, we wouldn't have as many bus routes.

I respectfully disagree. I was in another part of the D204 at one point and temp had bussing for my kids, but was denied 1 week in to the school year becuase i was only 1.4 miles away from the ES - as the crow flies. i suggest the SB recant their comment.

[doctorwho]

d204mom said:

wolverine said:

Seems to me Fry was thrown under the buss because only a portion were walkers, and if you allowed the walkers to walk, you'd split Fry. In doing so, you'd set a dangerous precedent that it was OK to split ES'. Once you do that, you open the door to the possibility that, Oh MY! , Steck and McCarty could be split!! M2 and CV wouldn't allow that... That's why Watts, McC, and Steck weren't seriously discussed.

SB used the transportation memo and some built-in prejudice against Fry to mask the real issue - Fry had to stay bussers so Steck and McC could remain "walking schools".

Ditto ditto ditto. I couldn't agree more. Owen West and Gombert East got thrown under the Steck and McCarty bus too. That's why Fry is being painted a certain way but Watts/Cowlishaw/Gom E/Owen W aren't even discussed. Are we to be painted as "Metea Haters"? Doesn't look good for the new school to already get that rep.

just who's driving that Steck/McCarty bus ?

He looks familiar

[twhl]

bob said:

twhl said:

Not true Bob ask the state, there distances are exactly how the crow flies. or better yet ask the SB.

From what I have gathered from SB members and admin, it is a safe walking route. This is why Steck buses and McCarty buses. If it was as the crow flies, we wouldn't have as many bus routes.

Like I siad before. The 1.5 mile rule is ridiculous. It should be moved down to a mile, due to the climate here alone.

I agree - the distance is somewhat misleading and arbitrary. what about 1.49999?

[twhl]

wvhsparent said:

twhl said:

Not true Bob ask the state, there distances are exactly how the crow flies. or better yet ask the SB.

They stated at the Meeting last night it is via the best route, not crow flies.

Consider the source.