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Post by fryfox on Mar 6, 2008 7:46:11 GMT -6
In addition to the ENVIRONMENTAL hazards there are excessive transportation hazards with this site. That is my larger concern as well as the inability to fill this school without putting kids on a bus for too long. Those kids include MY kids and Todd Andrews' kids. Additionally, this site sits EAST of the RR tracks and the location causes too many kids to be crossing RR tracks daily. A site situated WEST of the tracks does not cause these concerns.
I would like to know the percentage of kids in D204 that live East of the tracks. My guess is at least 2/3. So why is only 1/3 of our high schools East of the tracks?
Finally, all residents in D204 should be concerned about the environmental hazards NOT because our kids will go there but we should be concerned about others' kids AND protecting our district's investment. Our tax dollars are building that school too (not just the families' going there) and our tax dollars are at risk with future lawsuits, nothing in comparison to the potential cost of this one.
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Post by promark on Mar 6, 2008 7:46:21 GMT -6
Dash is right. None of Andrews kids or the kids of nearly everyone in the room at the meeting the other night will ever attend Metea. Not necessarily true. Population growth is entirely on the south side and odds are decent that boundaries will be redrawn within 10-15 years as more students need to be moved from WV to MV. |
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Post by Arch on Mar 6, 2008 7:47:41 GMT -6
FWIW, in the interest of disclosure:
I have not registered on their site and I have given no money.
I'm sure you were assuming otherwise, but I am setting the record straight now.
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Post by steckmom on Mar 6, 2008 7:50:16 GMT -6
FWIW, in the interest of disclosure: I have not registered on their site and I have given no money. I'm sure you were assuming otherwise, but I am setting the record straight now. Very interesting, Kassandra. |
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Post by doctorwho on Mar 6, 2008 8:06:30 GMT -6
There may have been a few Metea parents attending the meeting Tuesday night with environmental concerns(in addition to the majority TG/WE attendees that really didn't), but totally agree with you OldMan. Spoke with several neighbors in my neighborhood that are planning (or have already) contributed and we live less than 1/2 mile from AME site. Poor place for children to attend school. Support is definately much greater than those 2 singled out neighboorhoods. Remember many of us have spouses that work late or travel and are unable to attend these evening meetings during the week. Don't use the number that showed up for the meeting as the true number of supporters. Watch for news -- I believe the next meeting may be on a weekend.... |
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Post by fryfox on Mar 6, 2008 8:06:40 GMT -6
FWIW, in the interest of disclosure: I have not registered on their site and I have given no money. I'm sure you were assuming otherwise, but I am setting the record straight now. Very interesting, Kassandra. Arch, you've done a ton of great research and communication with the SD/SB. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like they're listening. One thing I will give this group credit for is they are willing to be the ones to put themselves on the line. Look at all the slack some individuals are taking by having their names in the paper, just on this thread alone. I give them a lot of credit for believing in what they're doing enough to be willing to take the heat. |
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Post by slp on Mar 6, 2008 8:18:13 GMT -6
One suggestion I would make to this group (NSFOC) is to not hold meetings at neighborhood Homeowner facilities. It is upsetting many residents that are not on board with this group as it implies that an entire subdivision is behind this effort.
Regardless of how anyone feels about this group, I hope everyone realizes that no subdivision should be labeled as being supportive or against this initiative.
These are individuals that do not speak for their entire areas. They speak for themselves and I respect their right to do so in any means they chose.
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Post by sleeplessinnpvl on Mar 6, 2008 8:27:45 GMT -6
One suggestion I would make to this group (NSFOC) is to not hold meetings at neighborhood Homeowner facilities. It is upsetting many residents that are not on board with this group as it implies that an entire subdivision is behind this effort. Regardless of how anyone feels about this group, I hope everyone realizes that no subdivision should be labeled as being supportive or against this initiative. These are individuals that do not speak for their entire areas. They speak for themselves and I respect their right to do so in any means they chose. I agree. It doesn't help when the DH and Todd Andrews himself make comments about the make up of the group. If I lived in one of those neighborhoods, I'd be giving Todd a jingle on his telephone. I was at the meeting and the attendance pad that was passed around had you fill out your name, email and phone-no address. |
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Post by fryfox on Mar 6, 2008 8:35:47 GMT -6
One suggestion I would make to this group (NSFOC) is to not hold meetings at neighborhood Homeowner facilities. It is upsetting many residents that are not on board with this group as it implies that an entire subdivision is behind this effort. Regardless of how anyone feels about this group, I hope everyone realizes that no subdivision should be labeled as being supportive or against this initiative. These are individuals that do not speak for their entire areas. They speak for themselves and I respect their right to do so in any means they chose. I agree. It doesn't help when the DH and Todd Andrews himself make comments about the make up of the group. If I lived in one of those neighborhoods, I'd be giving Todd a jingle on his telephone. I was at the meeting and the attendance pad that was passed around had you fill out your name, email and phone-no address. I don't think Todd Andrews made that comment. It's not in quotations and it's separated by dashes which means it was a clarifying comment that could have been made by him but more likely added by the DH writer. The group says it doesn't represent any specific area. Andrews said the group -- which consists mostly of residents in the White Eagle and Tall Grass neighborhoods -- believes the district hasn't done enough to ensure the Eola Road location is safe. |
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Post by sleeplessinnpvl on Mar 6, 2008 8:45:11 GMT -6
I agree. It doesn't help when the DH and Todd Andrews himself make comments about the make up of the group. If I lived in one of those neighborhoods, I'd be giving Todd a jingle on his telephone. I was at the meeting and the attendance pad that was passed around had you fill out your name, email and phone-no address. I don't think Todd Andrews made that comment. It's not in quotations and it's separated by dashes which means it was a clarifying comment that could have been made by him but more likely added by the DH writer. The group says it doesn't represent any specific area. Andrews said the group -- which consists mostly of residents in the White Eagle and Tall Grass neighborhoods -- believes the district hasn't done enough to ensure the Eola Road location is safe.Ok, I stand corrected. Then I would be giving the DH a call. What attendance pad were they looking at? |
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Post by doctorwho on Mar 6, 2008 8:48:51 GMT -6
I don't think Todd Andrews made that comment. It's not in quotations and it's separated by dashes which means it was a clarifying comment that could have been made by him but more likely added by the DH writer. The group says it doesn't represent any specific area. Andrews said the group -- which consists mostly of residents in the White Eagle and Tall Grass neighborhoods -- believes the district hasn't done enough to ensure the Eola Road location is safe.Ok, I stand corrected. Then I would be giving the DH a call. What attendance pad were they looking at? Interesting as an attendance pad never made it to the side where we were -- unless it came after we had to leave |
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Post by sleeplessinnpvl on Mar 6, 2008 8:54:34 GMT -6
Ok, I stand corrected. Then I would be giving the DH a call. What attendance pad were they looking at? Interesting as an attendance pad never made it to the side where we were -- unless it came after we had to leave Yeah, it got passed around. I thought it came from the far side and worked its way toward the door. Not every row might have gotten it though. I'm surprised they didn't announce it was going around. |
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Post by WeBe204 on Mar 6, 2008 8:55:48 GMT -6
From what I have read, it does not sound like the group has created an action plan as of yet. Here are some of my ideas..
I would donate $204 to a group that would continue to test the AME/MidWest Gen site along all parameters. I do not care if that testing included a test for EVP to see if the ghost of Metea is running around.
I would donate $204 to a group that would rent some busses so we could do some timed dry runs. I will ride around with the Doctor all day to check out the different times. If the times are as posted then so be it. If the times are not as promised the district should make changes. It’s simple.
I would donate $204 to a group that would collect all the financial information on what we have spent so far on this effort. I would also like a listing of all the presented facts and how these have played out over time. This includes the bloody beginning in 2005 up to now. I would like to publish this document as a reference for the next elections. This does not need to be a witch hunt. Just a non-bias fact based document.
I would donate $204 to a group that would lobby either the country/state/federal government to get the overpass over the EJ tracks at 95th built.
Until I see an approach that has an achievable goal, I will be writing a check for $204 to WVHS booster club. Errr, can someone pm me and tell me where I go to do that...
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Post by chicoryowl on Mar 6, 2008 9:03:43 GMT -6
From what I have read, it does not sound like the group has created an action plan as of yet. Here are some of my ideas.. I would donate $204 to a group that would continue to test the AME/MidWest Gen site along all parameters. I do not care if that testing included a test for EVP to see if the ghost of Metea is running around. I would donate $204 to a group that would rent some busses so we could do some timed dry runs. I will ride around with the Doctor all day to check out the different times. If the times are as posted then so be it. If the times are not as promised the district should make changes. It’s simple. I would donate $204 to a group that would collect all the financial information on what we have spent so far on this effort. I would also like a listing of all the presented facts and how these have played out over time. This includes the bloody beginning in 2005 up to now. I would like to publish this document as a reference for the next elections. This does not need to be a witch hunt. Just a non-bias fact based document. I would donate $204 to a group that would lobby either the country/state/federal government to get the overpass over the EJ tracks at 95th built. Until I see an approach that has an achievable goal, I will be writing a check for $204 to WVHS booster club. Errr, can someone pm me and tell me where I go to do that... I'm not donating to a group that either wants it built at BB or not at all. I would be interested to see dry runs on the buses. |
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Post by proschool on Mar 6, 2008 9:07:34 GMT -6
Dash is right. None of Andrews kids or the kids of nearly everyone in the room at the meeting the other night will ever attend Metea. Neither Andrews or any of his people give a rip about environmental problems or the kids who will attend there. It is about keeping TG at Neuqua and no other reason. That is why this all rings hollow. Collins is a smart guy he will tell them what they want to hear with some reservations to make it sound good. Strange how it all works. The folks who pulled out their checkbooks so quickly at the meeting are paying to sue the district and will pay when the district defends itself in court. Talk about getting your pocket picked twice! There may have been a few Metea parents attending the meeting Tuesday night with environmental concerns(in addition to the majority TG/WE attendees that really didn't), but totally agree with you OldMan. There are also posters from the other end of the spectrum who won't attend MV either but nobody is criticizing them for having a opinion. |
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