Daily Herald: Lawsuit not the answer to boundary c

[fence]

Look, I am sure that for a few, this is about protecting their own interests exclusively, but the lawsuit is supported either financially or in spirit by many people, and it goes beyond specific individuals that might feel in some way slighted or duped.

The way the SB has dismissed multiple concerns is what allowed the group to gather steam and support. Location concerns, dismissed. Environmental concerns, dismissed. Commute times, dismissed. Cost concerns, dismissed. Empathy for the change in venue, concerns over WV, split schools, balanced achievement, unfinished building, you name it, it was dismissed.

And not only dismissed, but fuel on the fire exacerbated in some cases by insulting and giving the tar and feather treatment for anyone who had the nerve to express their dissatisfaction.

I don't believe the lawsuit is a good thing for anyone, but if no one will listen and respond to some very valid concerns, or address areas that just needed a little attention and TLC, what other choice are you giving people?

I get that people want to move on and get over it, but that's false progress. And I don't think we should be making things that easy this time around. Questions need to be answered and people need to be reassured, and our leadership can do that now, or suffer the consequences.

sushi said:

BB was the consolation prize dangled to the "walkers". Some voted yes because they still got a shiny new HS. Some still voted no.

[sushi]

From Gatormom on the other board:

View Todd Andrews as he makes his case to the SB at the January 28th meeting:

ipsdweb.ipsd.org/Subpage.aspx/OnDemandVideo go to 58:12

It's all about the environemental issues. He's even an AK.

sorry, but I just had to beat the dead horse. mybad!

[oldmanpotter]

Despite what he says Andrews doesn't give a damn about what ever may be in the soil at Eola. For him and TG it is just about staying at NV.

[jwh]

oldmanpotter said:

Despite what he says Andrews doesn't give a d**n about what ever may be in the soil at Eola. For him and TG it is just about staying at NV.

Good find. So obvious! Call a spade a spade. (sorry, couldn't resist).

[JB]

jwh said:

oldmanpotter said:

Despite what he says Andrews doesn't give a d**n about what ever may be in the soil at Eola. For him and TG it is just about staying at NV.

Good find. So obvious! Call a spade a spade. (sorry, couldn't resist).

Wasn't Fry scheduled to go to MV @ BB? Kinda shoots a hole in the NV theory, doesn't it?

sure does - but hey, why ruin a good rant.

[WeBe204]

Hmm.. Feels very Potluck like in here I am just going to toss out my .02.

Yes, IMO agree there is a group inside the NSFOC that have dubious intentions. Unfortunately, I also believe that group has been able to recruit people who have good intentions as well. The inability to treat this situation as anything but a zero sum game by the admin and the sb has allowed the dubious to recruit the righteous. Just my opinion.

I think this situation has radicalized a much larger group than just those with dubious intentions.

Also, while it much better for home sales in my area, I think constantly labeling this as a TG and WE effort is incorrect. Both the TG and WE HOA have come out against these activities.

[doctorwho]

proschool said:

I would fight to keep my kids at WV. I don't want them at thye MIDGEN site.

I think I will make a donation just to make that point.

See this is the problem Proschool -- the same people throwing stones at nsfob - start a web site with the same kind of demonizing and over simplificationand generalizations- but I'm sure it's all about the kids

THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE TICKED OFF THAN JUST TG AND WE !

Maybe Joni needs to get the heck out of her cul de sac and actually listen to others....but see it's easier to generalize about TG because for some they think they are easy targets - or make this a rich -poor thing which I am sick of also.

And the SB-SD helped push this agenda by tossing Cowlishaw - Watts out of WVHS for deeper pockets --


I like you would fight to keep my kids at Waubonsie -- but we either get told to sit down and shut up - usually by those who have what they want school wise now -- or to 'take one for the team' - or just totally ignored by Sun columnists that see " all Naperville people want to go to NV' - or this is nothing but spoiled rich kids -- BULL

The same people pointing the finger - are doing the exact same thing...

quite frankly the whole d**n thing makes me sick --

I don't like the MV site for safety reasons, and I hate the fact that my childs and my interaction with high school get limited by an unfair commute --- but no one seems to give a rats behind about people like you and I Proschool --

and then they wonder how things get this far-- gee I wonder too

[sushi]

brad204 said:

Hmm.. Feels very Potluck like in here I am just going to toss out my .02.

Yes, IMO agree there is a group inside the NSFOC that have dubious intentions. Unfortunately, I also believe that group has been able to recruit people who have good intentions as well. The inability to treat this situation as anything but a zero sum game by the admin and the sb has allowed the dubious to recruit the righteous. Just my opinion.

I think this situation has radicalized a much larger group than just those with dubious intentions.

Also, while it much better for home sales in my area, I think constantly labeling this as a TG and WE effort is incorrect. Both the TG and WE HOA have come out against these activities.

I agree, Brad, there are some altruistic people. Now. But this was started based on boundaries.

Doc is right, it all sucks.

[sushi]

jb said:

jwh said:

Good find. So obvious! Call a spade a spade. (sorry, couldn't resist).

Wasn't Fry scheduled to go to MV @ BB? Kinda shoots a hole in the NV theory, doesn't it?

sure does - but hey, why ruin a good rant.

The shiny new school/NV/same thing.

[WeBe204]

sushi said:

jb said:

Wasn't Fry scheduled to go to MV @ BB? Kinda shoots a hole in the NV theory, doesn't it?

sure does - but hey, why ruin a good rant.

The shiny new school/NV/same thing.

Actually, not the same. The new school is an value version of one of the local schools as opposed to an extreme upscaled version of an existing school in Stillwater, MN. (I know the orginal NVHS was my high school rival ) MVHS is a great facility with everything that is for sure, but the SB learned its lesson last time. MVHS is no NVHS.

This is just a point of information no real point.

[WeBe204]

sushi said:

brad204 said:

Hmm.. Feels very Potluck like in here I am just going to toss out my .02.

Yes, IMO agree there is a group inside the NSFOC that have dubious intentions. Unfortunately, I also believe that group has been able to recruit people who have good intentions as well. The inability to treat this situation as anything but a zero sum game by the admin and the sb has allowed the dubious to recruit the righteous. Just my opinion.

I think this situation has radicalized a much larger group than just those with dubious intentions.

Also, while it much better for home sales in my area, I think constantly labeling this as a TG and WE effort is incorrect. Both the TG and WE HOA have come out against these activities.

I agree, Brad, there are some altruistic people. Now. But this was started based on boundaries.

Doc is right, it all sucks.

Right on.. It really does..

[sushi]

I'll give you that brad, I meant from the prospective of the people feeling jilted. Some were appeased by MV at BB. Not so happy about WV.

[jwh]

sushi said:

I'll give you that brad, I meant from the prospective of the people feeling jilted. Some were appeased by MV at BB. Not so happy about WV.

And sadly, that is the root of the basis of this (frivolous) lawsuit.
I'm sure there will be 3 zillions posts now saying otherwise, but it is quite obvious.

[d204mom]

There is no going back. See my avatar. The line is in the sand. I wish I could be more optimistic about the future of our district, but someone else said that this was like watching a train wreck in slow motion. So sad, the whole situation.

I am sooooooo frustrated by the scoffing and name-calling out of the admin and SB, throwing fuel onto the inferno. Now everyone is following their bad example.

2 wrongs can't make a right but maybe 500 can? Makes no sense.

[WeBe204]

d204mom said:

There is no going back. See my avatar. The line is in the sand. I wish I could be more optimistic about the future of our district, but someone else said that this was like watching a train wreck in slow motion. So sad, the whole situation.

I am sooooooo frustrated by the scoffing and name-calling out of the admin and SB, throwing fuel onto the inferno. Now everyone is following their bad example.

2 wrongs can't make a right but maybe 500 can? Makes no sense.

I hear where you are coming from but I do want to add some prespective. I agree with most this is an amazing district. Kids get a great education. Things are a total mess, but the sky is not falling.