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Post by warriordiva on Feb 23, 2010 0:21:33 GMT -6
Dr. Birkett will be at the Fischer PTSA meeting on Tuesday 2/23 at 7:00pm. There will apparently be a question and answer time...
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Post by doctorwho on Feb 23, 2010 9:42:24 GMT -6
Dr. Birkett will be at the Fischer PTSA meeting on Tuesday 2/23 at 7:00pm. There will apparently be a question and answer time... people need to ask the 'serious ' questions when she is there.. 1/ why did we build a $150M high school when we KNEW 10,400 was not the population, it was 8800 peak - 8400 soon 2/ we claim we have not talked about a referendum, yet we just paid the some referendum consultant we used to 'sell' the ref in 2006 for more guideance, and we talked about an operating referendum from day 1- why the disconnect in communications' 3/ doesn't the recent rule changes by the IHSA re: residency within a multi HS district make it perfectly clear the SD ALWAYS had the apporval for who could attend/play where when MV opeened. Why did we tell people it was the IHSA that would prevent varsity athletes that stayed behind from playing - when that was not true ? hen go ahead and approve 50 or so 'exeptions' once MVHS was opened after saying there would be no exceptions 4/ when will the consolidation of under utilized buildings begin -- Owen/Watts Peterson and eventually WVHS ? Will we then use the capacity numbers we always used before , including to pass the ref for freshman centers- and not the 'new' capacity numbers meant to scare people into a 3rd HS ? that would be a good start |
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Post by EagleDad on Feb 23, 2010 12:24:49 GMT -6
I'd go but it's easier to be ignored bt Kathy from the comfort of my own home.
She's never replied to any questions/feedback/input I've given via email so why should a parent thnk otherwise in a meeting.
Yep, communication is great in the district right now - if you're part of the preferred team.
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Post by refbasics on Feb 23, 2010 13:09:44 GMT -6
Dr. Birkett will be at the Fischer PTSA meeting on Tuesday 2/23 at 7:00pm. There will apparently be a question and answer time... people need to ask the 'serious ' questions when she is there.. 1/ why did we build a $150M high school when we KNEW 10,400 was not the population, it was 8800 peak - 8400 soon 2/ we claim we have not talked about a referendum, yet we just paid the some referendum consultant we used to 'sell' the ref in 2006 for more guideance, and we talked about an operating referendum from day 1- why the disconnect in communications' 3/ doesn't the recent rule changes by the IHSA re: residency within a multi HS district make it perfectly clear the SD ALWAYS had the apporval for who could attend/play where when MV opeened. Why did we tell people it was the IHSA that would prevent varsity athletes that stayed behind from playing - when that was not true ? hen go ahead and approve 50 or so 'exeptions' once MVHS was opened after saying there would be no exceptions 4/ when will the consolidation of under utilized buildings begin -- Owen/Watts Peterson and eventually WVHS ? Will we then use the capacity numbers we always used before , including to pass the ref for freshman centers- and not the 'new' capacity numbers meant to scare people into a 3rd HS ? that would be a good start --------------------------------------------- FROM THE GREEN BLOG ip204.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=non204newsCuts at elgin, oswego, kaneland, distr300(carpentersville?)... "reduction in bldg temps, furloughs, 4 day summer administrator work weeks, MS sports, Kindgrtn music, art, gym, transportation, etc..."... lots of ideas for cuts to spending to suggest to our superintendent tonite! ;D |
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Post by casey on Feb 23, 2010 13:29:42 GMT -6
--------------------------------------------- FROM THE GREEN BLOG ip204.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=non204newsCuts at elgin, oswego, kaneland, distr300(carpentersville?)... "reduction in bldg temps, furloughs, 4 day summer administrator work weeks, MS sports, Kindgrtn music, art, gym, transportation, etc..."... lots of ideas for cuts to spending to suggest to our superintendent tonite! ;D Ok, refbasics, based on your post, I decided to go read green board. It's always the same thing - rah! rah! cheerleaders sticking up for the district and SB. I about puked when I read slt's post. She can't understand why it's not the state's fault we're in this position? Seriously, can anyone be that delusional? She also can't understand why many people were offended by the district's choice to put signs up at buildings spelling out the state's IOU. Now I know why I don't read the green board  |
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Post by macrockett on Feb 23, 2010 13:35:13 GMT -6
slt ***** Last Login Date: May 6, 2008, 4:07pm
Re: Official: Dist. 204 cuts may be 'unprecedented
« Reply #6 Today at 1:20pm »
Today at 1:15pm, concerned wrote:
"When our SB makes the decision to put up signs on our children's schools saying the state owes us money, I think we need to start looking at our SB and all the mistakes they have made to put us in this situation. They had the chance to stop this mess and they did not."
SLT'S response:
"I don't understand why it was a mistake for our district and several others to use school signs for a short time to make this information known to the public. Not everyone gets 204 enews, IMO this was a good way to reach people throughout the district for free.
The school board did not cause the state to stop paying bills or to propose paying our district a lower amount going forward so could not have stopped these things from happening."
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I realize this should be in ramblings...but
Someone ought to clue SLT in, it appears they have been away for quite some time. Five stars no less.
Have to disagree with SLT regarding this quote. First SLT, it is the job of the Board and the Admin to look down the road, anticipate problems, etc. Whether the School Board, etc., caused the State to do anything is irrelevant.
What they should have done is reduce our exposure to this dysfunctional State. Second it should have run our District on a needs only basis, protecting our finances for this day. Many if not most on this Blue Board get it. Unfortunately, our School Board does not. As for Green, I have nothing to say. Have a good day over there.
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Post by refbasics on Feb 23, 2010 13:36:48 GMT -6
--------------------------------------------- FROM THE GREEN BLOG ip204.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=non204newsCuts at elgin, oswego, kaneland, distr300(carpentersville?)... "reduction in bldg temps, furloughs, 4 day summer administrator work weeks, MS sports, Kindgrtn music, art, gym, transportation, etc..."... lots of ideas for cuts to spending to suggest to our superintendent tonite! ;D Ok, refbasics, based on your post, I decided to go read green board. It's always the same thing - rah! rah! cheerleaders sticking up for the district and SB. I about puked when I read slt's post. She can't understand why it's not the state's fault we're in this position? Seriously, can anyone be that delusional? She also can't understand why many people were offended by the district's choice to put signs up at buildings spelling out the state's IOU. Now I know why I don't read the green board -------------------------------- be sure to read how many other districts are already cutting... not just talking about cuts... that's where this link leads.  |
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Post by doctorwho on Feb 23, 2010 13:48:16 GMT -6
--------------------------------------------- FROM THE GREEN BLOG ip204.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=non204newsCuts at elgin, oswego, kaneland, distr300(carpentersville?)... "reduction in bldg temps, furloughs, 4 day summer administrator work weeks, MS sports, Kindgrtn music, art, gym, transportation, etc..."... lots of ideas for cuts to spending to suggest to our superintendent tonite! ;D Ok, refbasics, based on your post, I decided to go read green board. It's always the same thing - rah! rah! cheerleaders sticking up for the district and SB. I about puked when I read slt's post. She can't understand why it's not the state's fault we're in this position? Seriously, can anyone be that delusional? She also can't understand why many people were offended by the district's choice to put signs up at buildings spelling out the state's IOU. Now I know why I don't read the green board I haven't been there in a bit either but that does not surprise me-- to some- now seemingly including slt- the SB-SD does nothing wrong- they turn their heads when the admin is lying to people -- they choose to totally ignore the extra $17M the SD put us allon the hook for for the high school...and of course they won't agree with the parents being upset by the signs, they surely knew the parent quoted in the paper. I don't understand how some went that direction of course when JC and MM put a HS in your back yard- you may lose perspective |
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Post by blankcheck on Feb 23, 2010 14:56:04 GMT -6
Do they not read their own threads:
Ax falls in Oswego
District 300 slashes budget $4.6 million
100-plus Kanland teachers to get layoff notices
U-46 details cuts:Eraly childhood center...
Come on. Again, this did not happen overnight folks. People of this district had the opportunity to vote out and in our SB members. Now, I hope these same people are ready to pay for it.
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Post by Arch on Feb 23, 2010 15:26:53 GMT -6
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Post by kjaltek on Feb 23, 2010 16:16:44 GMT -6
doctorwho: I am a May Watts parents and interested in the numbers that support the statement that May Watts is under utilized. Thanks for the info!
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Post by doctorwho on Feb 23, 2010 16:34:51 GMT -6
doctorwho: I am a May Watts parents and interested in the numbers that support the statement that May Watts is under utilized. Thanks for the info! sure need some time to dig out and will give you Owen and Watts history -- again these will all be SD #'s- not anything else when it comes to utilization. also remember they have added 4 satellite locations in the poast few years to bolster numbers- one as far away as Rt 59 and North Aurora Ave - west side |
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Post by EagleDad on Feb 23, 2010 16:44:53 GMT -6
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Post by refbasics on Feb 23, 2010 16:58:47 GMT -6
----------------------------------- did that guy just 'sell' blood to ante up more $$$ to his school district?? ;D |
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Post by doctorwho on Feb 24, 2010 17:02:24 GMT -6
doctorwho: I am a May Watts parents and interested in the numbers that support the statement that May Watts is under utilized. Thanks for the info! Thank you for being interested and hopefully becoming vigilant. The following data comes from IPSD month end enrollment data. Here is why I would be concerned fellow Watts resident: for everyone else some interesting info here They have already mentioned building consolidation as being on the table -- Here is a history of Watts ES population over the past 10 years. What you will see in 2002-03 is the population of Watts BEFORE sattelites such as the location I mentioned on Rt59 and North Aurora and Lehigh station were added. Clearly these areas could and should go to school closer to home. Attendance from the 'home' area was declining quickly ( my student was there 1990-96 ( overcrowded before addition) and another student 1999-05 Watts attendance ( capacity 850) 1997-98 719 1998-99 737 1999-00 612 2000-01 586 2001-02 544 2002-03 499 ( start adding satellits to boost) 2003-04 560 2005-06 567 2006-07 527 2007-08 538 2008-09 595 ( added more satellites from far north) 2009-10 608 242 empty seats operating @ 72% capacity even with 5 satellite locations Owen ( capacity 850) 2003-04 494 2005-06 538 2006-07 558 2007-08 561 2008-09 566 ( adding a chunk of kids from Builta to bolster) 2009-10 589 261 empty seats operating @ 69% even with additions of kids now keep in mind that there ar 3807 empty seats in 204 today and most of the grade levels have declinig population the last few years at 2-4% per year
2005-06 7028 total - peak !
2006-07 6830 down 3%
2007-08 6711 down 2%
2008-09 6586 down 2%
2009-10 6375 down 3%
down 9% friom peak just 5 years ago - so don't let anyone snow you that things are rosy and population is increasing, the pipeline is going down quickly3807 open seats - 4.5 schools worth- and population dropping each year.note this is at 100% capacity - so lets look at 90% capacity - very reasonable in tough fiscal times
that would be 2109 empty seats - that's 2.5 schools to be consolidated. who'll be on the list - well I'd look at schools close to each other that are underutilized- which is why I mentioned Owen and Watts. Note also that Builta has 315 empty seat so they could easily take back the 150 or so moved to Owen to try and make it look more crowded. You can be the judge but be prepared... here are # of empty seats at 100% capacity per ES and % open high to low Peterson 407 47% Builta 315 37% Clow 220 34% Owen 261 31% Graham 245 29% Watts 242 29% Patterson 260 27% McCarty 210 25% Kendall 202 24% Gombert 147 23% Brooks 183 22% White E 147 21% Brookdale 127 20% Steck 159 19%
Springbrook146 15%
Fry 140 15%
Cowlishaw 122 14%
Geo'twn 86 12%
Welch 93 10%
Young 42 5% ( doesnt count 120 capacity for trailers)
Longwood 9 2%@ 90% capacity the ones in red are out of play IMHO. So decide where the consolidations are coming - and please don't be surprised when they happen. Can't wait to see the new boundaries then. |
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