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Post by rew on Oct 29, 2010 6:39:56 GMT -6
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Post by casey on Oct 29, 2010 6:58:11 GMT -6
there's a lot of information there to digest but my quick comment would be why, once again, does 203 out-perform 204? Take a look at ACT scores:
Naperville Central - 28.8 (WOW!!!!)
Naperville North - 25.2
Neuqua - 24.7
Waubonsie 23 (that's a 5.8 difference from Naperville Central!!!!)
Also, average (203 vs. 204)
ISAT 94.2, 92.6
PSAT 79.3, 75.7
ACT 25, 23.9
Other sad statistic, of 2,203 state elementary schools, Gombert ranks 612th, McCarty - 897th, Longwood - 1,236th, Georgetown, 1,356th.
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Post by asmodeus on Oct 29, 2010 11:10:22 GMT -6
That must be a misprint for NC - 28.8?
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Post by rew on Oct 29, 2010 13:01:08 GMT -6
The ISBE website says that NCHS is 24.8...the 28.8 seems to be a typo.
Why is there no report card for MVHS??
The GAP between NVHS and WVHS widened, which is exactly what was called out, right here, when the SB decided the new boundaries. The "new Waubonsie" they celebrated was another one of those teensy fabrications.
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Post by rew on Oct 29, 2010 13:30:07 GMT -6
D203 vs D204...
either D204 is doing an equivalent job to D203 and some students are under performing for other reasons,
or D204 is doing a worse job than D203 and some students in the district perform in spite of this.
The %age of low income students in 203 and 204 are equivalent. I do not know what the definition of low income is for the state report card.
The subsets for NCLB is broken down by race on the report card. On the state report cards NVHS and WVHS fail AYP for NCLB for black students in Reading and Math. For NCLB, NC reports no info for black students on their report card and NN no info for black students under reading or math. I do not understand the reporting requirements enough to explain this.
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Post by casey on Oct 29, 2010 14:11:30 GMT -6
The ISBE website says that NCHS is 24.8...the 28.8 seems to be a typo. Why is there no report card for MVHS?? Thanks for catching the Sun's error (they never seem to get it right, do they?). I should have recognized that as an obvious mistake. Let's face it a 28.8 would be a crazy and next to impossible improvement. I still state that 203 outperforms 204 and I don't understand why. I'm also curious why NC and NN did not report the subset scores for blacks on their report cards. As far as Metea's scores? I wondered the same thing. Where are they? Why don't they get reported? |
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Post by lacy on Oct 29, 2010 15:09:39 GMT -6
MV didn't have juniors last year, right? If so, they haven't taken the test yet.
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Post by casey on Oct 29, 2010 15:13:14 GMT -6
Here's a few more things that I find interesting..... Graduation rate WV 95.9, NV 98.3 White at WV 97.5, White at NV 98.3 Black at WV 88.9 ; Black at NV 94.0 Total Enrollment WV 3189, NV 4397 students Low Income WV 11.9%, NV 4.2% Exceeding standards in Reading 11th Grade 2.3% (  !!!) Black at WV; 7.9% Black at NV 20.8% White at WV; 21.7% White at NV Below or Academic Warning in Reading 11th Grade 62.8 ( !!!!) Black at WV; 55.3% at NV 23% White at WV; 18.2% at NV Exceeding standards in Math 11th Grade 4.5% Black at WV; 3.9% ( !!!!) Black at NV 20.8% White at WV; 26.9% White at NV Below or Academic Warning in Math 11th Grade 62.9 ( !!!!) Black at WV; 58.5% at NV 21.5% White at WV; 17.1% at NV Exceeding standards in Science 11th Grade .8% (!!!!) Black at WV; 5.2% ( !!!!) Black at NV 24.3% White at WV; 24.3% White at NV Below or Academic Warning in Science 11th Grade 66.7 ( !!!!) Black at WV; 59.7% at NV 20.8% White at WV; 17.7% at NV |
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Post by rew on Oct 29, 2010 15:30:54 GMT -6
Lacey, I understand the issue of not having ACT scores for MVHS, but every school has a state report card, even the elementary schools and middle schools. There is no state report card for Fischer MS either. Is there a "grace period" for new schools? If so, why?? The state report card focuses on data, enrollment, demographics, expenditures, the test scores are only a small part of the report card.
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Post by doctorwho on Oct 29, 2010 15:44:07 GMT -6
The ISBE website says that NCHS is 24.8...the 28.8 seems to be a typo. Why is there no report card for MVHS?? The GAP between NVHS and WVHS widened, which is exactly what was called out, right here, when the SB decided the new boundaries. The "new Waubonsie" they celebrated was another one of those teensy fabrications. that was the socio-engineering of the school called out here many times because the 'work' wasn't exactly secret. They made sure that their new prize would not be the lowest rated HS - as ISAT's looked like it might be)- so they made sure they shifted Watts and part of Owen to MVHS to make sure. M2 got exactly what he wanted - the people he disliked into the school rated the lowest overall- this was not an accident. remember though- test scores alone aren't the total scorecard |
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Post by doctorwho on Oct 29, 2010 15:46:01 GMT -6
Lacey, I understand the issue of not having ACT scores for MVHS, but every school has a state report card, even the elementary schools and middle schools. There is no state report card for Fischer MS either. Is there a "grace period" for new schools? If so, why?? The state report card focuses on data, enrollment, demographics, expenditures, the test scores are only a small part of the report card. Prairie State tests were still in place.. I still say from comments made in MVHS email blasts - there is something about the scores there the admin is not happy with.. |
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Post by rew on Oct 29, 2010 15:54:12 GMT -6
I totally agree, doc about the test scores not being the whole story
My comment harkened back to the SBs (particularly MM and BG) own words regarding the "new Waubonsie". If they thought they created a new WVHS, than the state report card shows that is just one more miserable failure on their part
And for the record White Eagle and Tallgrass have embraced WVHS and come out very strong to support it. The fact is the SBs demonizing of those neighborhoods was all made up in their own heads and spun to fulfill an agenda.
Doc, I am sure there are a lot of admins not happy with their test scores for one reason or another. I wouldn't think the state report card is optional
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Post by doctorwho on Oct 29, 2010 16:25:10 GMT -6
I totally agree, doc about the test scores not being the whole story My comment harkened back to the SBs (particularly MM and BG) own words regarding the "new Waubonsie". If they thought they created a new WVHS, than the state report card shows that is just one more miserable failure on their part And for the record White Eagle and Tallgrass have embraced WVHS and come out very strong to support it. The fact is the SBs demonizing of those neighborhoods was all made up in their own heads and spun to fulfill an agenda. Doc, I am sure there are a lot of admins not happy with their test scores for one reason or another. I wouldn't think the state report card is optional I agree- I will see what I can find out-- there should be a state score card- even though 204 has a 'friend of the program' with ISBE and you know how I feel about Waubonsie, that is why I mentioned that..I am so glad TG and WE have taken to it also-- but in that person's mind they somehow feel like they got what they wanted- how ironic that people are happy with it..gotta love that ! |
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Post by lacy on Oct 29, 2010 22:17:07 GMT -6
Lacey, I understand the issue of not having ACT scores for MVHS, but every school has a state report card, even the elementary schools and middle schools. There is no state report card for Fischer MS either. Is there a "grace period" for new schools? If so, why?? The state report card focuses on data, enrollment, demographics, expenditures, the test scores are only a small part of the report card. Maybe I'm missing something - but the state test for high school is only 11th grade - the PSAE/ACT given in 2 consecutive days. Did students take it at MV? Correct me if I'm wrong - I might be off base. But I think that's the only high school test for state standards. |
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Post by casey on Oct 30, 2010 6:01:28 GMT -6
M2 got exactly what he wanted - the people he disliked into the school rated the lowest overall- this was not an accident. Absolutely! To me that was the total driving force. MM has such outward hatred to much of the district community. It's sad but he's so busy trashing WE/TG he doesn't recognize the neighborhoods for what they are- a lot of involved parents and students willing to work for success. As far as I can see the TG/WE parents have really stepped up to the plate and gotten involved to continue the success of Waubonsie. They are helping with the PTA, the Booster's, PAC committees, etc. Talk to the teachers and administrators at Waubonsie, talk to the kids at Waubonsie - everyone's pretty happy with where they are. Poor MM's plan - foiled again ;D. |
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!!!) Black at WV; 7.9% Black at NV
