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Post by macrockett on Dec 6, 2011 12:21:10 GMT -6
Just so there is no illusion about "growth" in District 204 enrollment: winsome.cnchost.com/MAC/DISTRICT204ENROLLMENT_WordDoc-1.pdfHS enrollment will peak either this year or in FY 2013 according to information that was available in 2008 prior to breaking ground on the third HS. Right now HS enrollment will not even reach the projected peak of approximately 9200 students. In 2008 we had capacity of 3000 + 3000 + 1200 + 1200 + 600 = 9000. In their infinite wisdom, 6 of 7 current Board members decided a third HS was necessary. Cost: approximately $47.83 thousand per seat, or roughly $143.5 million Referendum passed by voters: $124.66 million Difference: approximately $19 million, most paid for by the taxpayer in the form of extra interest costs as a result of issuing the Bonds much earlier than necessary and at rates higher than those currently prevailing in the market place. Priceless! All numbers taken directly from 204 reports. |
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Post by gatordog on Dec 6, 2011 12:57:43 GMT -6
Just so there is no illusion about "growth" in District 204 enrollment: And just so there is clarity in these enrollment numbers..... The drop in projected HS enrollment virtually all comes within the NV attendance area. MV attendance area ES population is growing. MV will see bigger enrollments as the younger students advance. |
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Post by doctorwho on Dec 6, 2011 14:32:53 GMT -6
Just so there is no illusion about "growth" in District 204 enrollment: winsome.cnchost.com/MAC/DISTRICT204ENROLLMENT_WordDoc-1.pdfHS enrollment will peak either this year or in FY 2013 according to information that was available in 2008 prior to breaking ground on the third HS. Right now HS enrollment will not even reach the projected peak of approximately 9200 students. In 2008 we had capacity of 3000 + 3000 + 1200 + 1200 + 600 = 9000. In their infinite wisdom, 6 of 7 current Board members decided a third HS was necessary. Cost: approximately $47.83 thousand per seat, or roughly $143.5 million Referendum passed by voters: $124.66 million Difference: approximately $19 million, most paid for by the taxpayer in the form of extra interest costs as a result of issuing the Bonds much earlier than necessary and at rates higher than those currently prevailing in the market place. Priceless! All numbers taken directly from 204 reports. Projected peak of 10,200 by 2009 was not even the peak. Take a look at the complete quality analysis done by the NIU good squad - that shows the number rising exponentially each year after-- peaks in the 12,000-13,000 range. Luckily St Charles pitched their NIU work in the garbage before they proceeded to stay with what they have.... similar inflated projections done for them. |
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Post by macrockett on Dec 6, 2011 20:46:16 GMT -6
Just so there is no illusion about "growth" in District 204 enrollment: And just so there is clarity in these enrollment numbers..... The drop in projected HS enrollment virtually all comes within the NV attendance area. MV attendance area ES population is growing. MV will see bigger enrollments as the younger students advance. Sorry Gatordog, I thought it was clear that I am talking in the aggregate. Overall, elementary is shrinking dramatically, which indicates that, overall, the District will see a decline in size, based on current trends. We will never need 3000 + 3000 + 3000 + 1200 + 600 = 10800 seats at the HS level. If you believe we will, lets make a large bet. |
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Post by rew on Dec 7, 2011 15:23:34 GMT -6
If the MV population is the one growing, perhaps they should move all of Owen back to WVHS. That would unsplit Still too. Seems like a good idea.
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Post by gatordog on Dec 9, 2011 12:38:30 GMT -6
just for curiosity sake:
using the ES enrollment from this year, using my split assumptions/guesses
I estimate for Class of 2020 school year (applying actual 4,3,2,1st gr enrollments and assuming zero growth)
MV- 2943
WV- 2469
NV- 2993
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Post by doctorwho on Dec 9, 2011 22:00:48 GMT -6
just for curiosity sake: using the ES enrollment from this year, using my split assumptions/guesses I estimate for Class of 2020 school year (applying actual 4,3,2,1st gr enrollments and assuming zero growth) MV- 2943 WV- 2469 NV- 2993 I am not going to check the math- let's go with this for a whopping total of 8405 HS students. the SB lied to the public and told them 10,400 - growing to 12,000--even after they knew damn well it was less than 9000 for sure. So NV 3000 WV 3000 and 2 1200 freshman centers handle the headcount - and we know this is 80% of actual. this is NOT counting 600 seats for Frontier Campus / eventual growth in senior on line education / and it only cost us $154 Million and another incremental $3.8 - $4.0 M to accomplish nothing. And these people are not crooks how ? And all the pain they inflicted upon the community- for what ? for whom ? |
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Post by macrockett on Dec 11, 2011 20:00:13 GMT -6
just for curiosity sake: using the ES enrollment from this year, using my split assumptions/guesses I estimate for Class of 2020 school year (applying actual 4,3,2,1st gr enrollments and assuming zero growth) MV- 2943 WV- 2469 NV- 2993 I am not going to check the math- let's go with this for a whopping total of 8405 HS students. the SB lied to the public and told them 10,400 - growing to 12,000--even after they knew damn well it was less than 9000 for sure. So NV 3000 WV 3000 and 2 1200 freshman centers handle the headcount - and we know this is 80% of actual. this is NOT counting 600 seats for Frontier Campus / eventual growth in senior on line education / and it only cost us $154 Million and another incremental $3.8 - $4.0 M to accomplish nothing. And these people are not crooks how ? And all the pain they inflicted upon the community- for what ? for whom ? And just how far and wide do you have to extend the third HS boundary to get that many kids? winsome.cnchost.com/MAC/BoundaryRecommend021809.pdf all the way down to 83st, almost 2/3 of the District from north to south, and all the way east. Also, that 8400 enrollment in 2020, if not sooner, eliminates the need for Frontier, NVGold, WVGold (3000). Hmmm, the same size as the third HS....imagine that! Finally, almost 50% (just a couple of % points under that) reside south of 87th. Imagine that as well. |
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Post by doctorwho on Dec 11, 2011 21:19:29 GMT -6
I am not going to check the math- let's go with this for a whopping total of 8405 HS students. the SB lied to the public and told them 10,400 - growing to 12,000--even after they knew damn well it was less than 9000 for sure. So NV 3000 WV 3000 and 2 1200 freshman centers handle the headcount - and we know this is 80% of actual. this is NOT counting 600 seats for Frontier Campus / eventual growth in senior on line education / and it only cost us $154 Million and another incremental $3.8 - $4.0 M to accomplish nothing. And these people are not crooks how ? And all the pain they inflicted upon the community- for what ? for whom ? And just how far and wide do you have to extend the third HS boundary to get that many kids? winsome.cnchost.com/MAC/BoundaryRecommend021809.pdf all the way down to 83st, almost 2/3 of the District from north to south, and all the way east. Also, that 8400 enrollment in 2020, if not sooner, eliminates the need for Frontier, NVGold, WVGold (3000). Hmmm, the same size as the third HS....imagine that! Finally, almost 50% (just a couple of % points under that) reside south of 87th. Imagine that as well. also doesn't even cover the fact that we will not need the 7th Middle School by then either again, just WHO benefiteted from all of this nonsense ?-- a very very small % of the community. Someday the truth will come out completely along with the paper (money?) trail...and I hope there is a place next to Rod for those people. |
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