Metea Valley site choice could be finalized Tuesda

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steckmom said:

archwinsome said:

This NAY sayer would love to be flat out wrong.

Let's start with the big ones:

1) Please prove that natural gas pipelines are not a potential terrorist target.
2) Please also prove that EMF does no harm to children who are still growing.

Terrorist target? Seriously? Prove that this is a real risk.

Also, I'd rather the SD prove to me that the actual site EMF levels would cause no harm. That's what they're supposed to do. Not me.
So far, I've seen nothing.

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www.wtopnews.com/?nid=251&sid=1287268

Man Gets 30 Years in Pipeline Plot
November 6, 2007 - 3:55pm

SCRANTON, Pa. (AP) - A man was sentenced to 30 years in federal prison Tuesday for plotting to help a supposed al-Qaida operative blow up U.S. oil pipelines and refineries.

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www.iht.com/articles/2006/01/24/news/georgia.php

Blasts on gas pipeline send a message

MOSCOW: Saboteurs who bombed two natural gas pipelines high in the Caucasus Mountains this week - by one estimate sending a fireball nearly 200 meters into the sky - paralyzed Georgia and sent a message straight to Western Europe, which depends on Russian natural gas.

The Russian authorities are calling the strike a terrorist attack on a gas main, suggesting that groups in or near the rebellious republic of Chechnya may be targeting the country's energy infrastructure.


You can find more on the net. Discount it if you want and stick your head in the sand. Given the choice to put a school next to a very large supply of fuel or not, I would choose not.

Next to the property is a railroad siding. How often might trains sit there carrying hazardous chemicals? What is the likelihood of a switch or human error that can send a moving train into a parked one carrying such cargo (next to a school) ?

Again, I put forth, these are unnecessary risks to say YES to when we do not need to take them on.

[jftb]

If terrorists attack this gas pipeline, we're all in trouble, not just Metea Valley High School!

[steckmom]

Here's a link to the National Safety Council with some info:

www.nsc.org/issues/rad/nonioniz.htm

Here's a snip:

How can individuals reduce exposure? People concerned about their own exposure can take several steps to reduce it. Except in certain cases, most people's greatest exposure to EMFs may come from sources inside the home, rather than from power lines outside it. The NIEHS suggests avoiding standing too close to computers, microwave ovens, televisions, or other devices that may emit EMFs. People can reduce exposure to EMFs by turning off devices such as electric blankets when they are not in use and by not keeping devices such as electric alarm clocks too close to the bed. Adults can discourage children from playing near high power lines or electrical transformers.

I think I have my answer in the last sentence.

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steckmom said:

casey said:

Also, here's just a little "fun fact" that I learned. Did you know that 75% of Elementary students in District 204 kids live south of 75th Street? Won't that be fun down the road when they're all headed north for HS?

If 25% of the kids are north of 75th, then doesn't a north school make sense? That is if you take into consideration that WV is technically south of 75th. Even if you want to dispute that fact, most likely kids who live near WV were considered south of 75th for that statistic.

Not saying AME is the best site, but if the schools are a breakdown of 30% MV, 30% WV, 40% NV, it isn't so far off have a north school if a GOOD site can be found.

again no matter how you slice it - 75th street does not divide north from south. WVHS is a central school - and the central area of the district lies between Liberty Street and 87th street --

trying to spin Watts/Cowlishaw into the north is inaccurate as displayed by the differential is bus times 15 minutes vs 40+ minutes says all one needs to know about north and south.
If we were truly in the north, then there would be no 40-42 min bus rides now would there ?

The 4 schools that are close to AME make up a little over 15% of the district. If 25 % of the district lived close enough to be going there on a normal commute - we would not be having this discussion


Even Dr D himself @ Watts said the proper place north for a HS would be the area just south of Brookdale - not by Eola and Diehl.

[204family]

gumby said:

jwh said:

I just read through the PDF again to be sure, after reading all these EMF scary posts. The EMF readings where the school will be are lower than inside the average home.

Who paid for the study?

You can find plenty of studies saying Mercury doesn't cause Austism...I still wouldn't want my children getting those shots. We have other options. If we're so worried about perception why would we build the school at that location. It's like we're creating another school that will be preceived as less desirable.

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204family said:

gumby said:

Who paid for the study?

You can find plenty of studies saying Mercury doesn't cause Austism...I still wouldn't want my children getting those shots. We have other options. If we're so worried about perception why would we build the school at that location. It's like we're creating another school that will be preceived as less desirable.

Bingo

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jwh said:

I just read through the PDF again to be sure, after reading all these EMF scary posts. The EMF readings where the school will be are lower than inside the average home.

You do not know that. The location of the readings was not published. For that matter, we don't know if the readings were taken before the whole site shifted a quarter mile to the north (onto the the Midwest Generation land). They could have been taken in that lovely open field picture, which as we know is not where the school is going.

Take readings in the shadow of godzilla's erector set where the school will be, post the readings and the locations of them. That's all that is being asked for.

Alernative, plow headlong into this on 6 days notice, don't do any measurement - what could be the harm, right?

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Alernative, plow headlong into this on 6 days notice, don't do any measurement - what could be the harm, right?

This is like being sold one home then getting the one under the power lines and having the builder tell you that it doesn't make a difference.

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I'd rather go elsewhere and find out that I was wrong. (Still no harm done).

I would not want to go there and find out the proponents are wrong (Woops, harm there).

I always entertain being wrong on something and weigh the detriment of being wrong. I can live with being wrong on this one. Can you live with being wrong when you say there are no dangers?

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steckmom said:

Here's a link to the National Safety Council with some info:

www.nsc.org/issues/rad/nonioniz.htm

Here's a snip:

How can individuals reduce exposure? People concerned about their own exposure can take several steps to reduce it. Except in certain cases, most people's greatest exposure to EMFs may come from sources inside the home, rather than from power lines outside it. The NIEHS suggests avoiding standing too close to computers, microwave ovens, televisions, or other devices that may emit EMFs. People can reduce exposure to EMFs by turning off devices such as electric blankets when they are not in use and by not keeping devices such as electric alarm clocks too close to the bed. Adults can discourage children from playing near high power lines or electrical transformers.

I think I have my answer in the last sentence.

I guess it all depends on your definition of "near". The electrical equipment in the adjacent property by my definition is not near.

also the next paragraph after the one you quoted lends credence to the effects of distance.

The distance from a source of EMFs is important because the intensity of EMFs decreases proportionally to the square of the distance to their source. So doubling your distance from a source will reduce exposure to one-quarter of its previous level. There are no federal health standards governing public exposure to EMFs. A few states, however, have set standards for transmission line electric and magnetic fields.