Scenarios

[casey]

warriorpride said:

d204mom said:

ditto
I'll take a more expensive Macom with a 2010 opening over a cheaper northern site with a 2009 opening.

What grade level are your kid(s)?
What ES area?

What difference would that make? I've got kids at the 3 most crowded schools in the District. My kids would directly benefit from a 2009 date. That being said, I'm with d204mom, I'd prefer a Macom 2010 date over a northern 2009 site. The overcrowding is a fact that we've been dealing with for a while now and I'd prefer to keep dealing with it rather than see the SB make a permanent mistake by heading to a northern site.

[warriorpride]

casey said:

warriorpride said:

What grade level are your kid(s)?
What ES area?

What difference would that make? I've got kids at the 3 most crowded schools in the District. My kids would directly benefit from a 2009 date. That being said, I'm with d204mom, I'd prefer a Macom 2010 date over a northern 2009 site. The overcrowding is a fact that we've been dealing with for a while now and I'd prefer to keep dealing with it rather than see the SB make a permanent mistake by heading to a northern site.

As I'm mentioned in the past, we each will have different perspectives, priorities & preferences, for various reasons. I think where one lives, and what grade levels their children are in are relevant questions that may contribute to one's preferences - I know that's the case for me.

I don't see a northern site as a permanent mistake, but I acknowledge that some people would be unhappy with it, just as some will be unhappy with any other location.

NOTE: I don't see value in this survey. Is there an agenda here?

[wvhsparent]

Exactly WP it's all a matter of perspective.....From mine a Northern site would be great. However I also do not think the Ferry Rd site would be prudent.
Of all the senarios, I liked AME for all but the 3rd one...and that one was also close, would hinge on timeframe.

[d204mom]

archwinsome said:

I'll still state as I have all along, it will work out to be cheaper to have just bought BB back in September and started building the first week in October.

I agree.
I just can't figure the math they're using to push back the contruction date 6+ months, PLUS pay the attorney fees and possibly damage to remainder PLUS find a buyer for the 25 acres in a timely fashion and still come out ahead on another site.

They could have broken ground end of September. Back in July (or sooner!) they predicted that date correctly.

[d204mom]

warriorpride said:

d204mom said:

ditto
I'll take a more expensive Macom with a 2010 opening over a cheaper northern site with a 2009 opening.

What grade level are your kid(s)?
What ES area?

My kids are young enough that my decision is not influenced by an "ASAP at all costs" mindset.

So, yes, I'm not thinking about this in the short term - next 4 years - I'm thinking about what's best thing for kids in the system for the next 50+ years (useful life of the new high school). I hope "the deciders" are thinking about it the same way as me.

And Warriorpride, I'm not going to play this game with you. You know the answers to your own question.

[d204mom]

bob said:

3 sites

1) Macom
2) AME
3) Ferry Rd

bob - why did you choose Ferry Rd as one of the hypothetical sites? Did I miss something and a board member mentioned this site or is it conjecture?

[warriorpride]

d204mom said:

warriorpride said:

What grade level are your kid(s)?
What ES area?

My kids are young enough that my decision is not influenced by an "ASAP at all costs" mindset.

So, yes, I'm not thinking about this in the short term - next 4 years - I'm thinking about what's best thing for kids in the system for the next 50+ years (useful life of the new high school). I hope "the deciders" are thinking about it the same way as me.

And Warriorpride, I'm not going to play this game with you. You know the answers to your own question.

Well, I'm not going to pretend to be 100% altruistic - I am willing to admit I want something (not a lot, but something) out of the deal. I want what's best for my kids, which is what I think most want. I don't see how the kids in 204 are going to be severely damaged, no matter what site is selected.

ETA: funny thing: I think a lot of people voted Yes due to the urgency of getting MV built

[yeson321]

warriorpride said:

d204mom said:

My kids are young enough that my decision is not influenced by an "ASAP at all costs" mindset.

So, yes, I'm not thinking about this in the short term - next 4 years - I'm thinking about what's best thing for kids in the system for the next 50+ years (useful life of the new high school). I hope "the deciders" are thinking about it the same way as me.

And Warriorpride, I'm not going to play this game with you. You know the answers to your own question.

Well, I'm not going to pretend to be 100% altruistic - I am willing to admit I want something (not a lot, but something) out of the deal. I want what's best for my kids, which is what I think most want. I don't see how the kids in 204 are going to be severely damaged, no matter what site is selected.

ETA: funny thing: I think a lot of people voted Yes due to the urgency of getting MV built

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At the time that people cast their ballots, no one anticipated that we would be in the situation that we are now and that there would be such a delay in land acquisition. Timing was more a given. Therefore, there were probably more deciding factors in how people voted. I know many that voted "yes" because they felt that Brach Brodie was the best land left in the district, and they were told that this was the district's last opportunity to get the land.

I also hope that the SB will make the best long term decision, and not a rush decision that will be questioned in years to come.

[doctorwho]

warriorpride said:

d204mom said:

My kids are young enough that my decision is not influenced by an "ASAP at all costs" mindset.

So, yes, I'm not thinking about this in the short term - next 4 years - I'm thinking about what's best thing for kids in the system for the next 50+ years (useful life of the new high school). I hope "the deciders" are thinking about it the same way as me.

And Warriorpride, I'm not going to play this game with you. You know the answers to your own question.

Well, I'm not going to pretend to be 100% altruistic - I am willing to admit I want something (not a lot, but something) out of the deal. I want what's best for my kids, which is what I think most want. I don't see how the kids in 204 are going to be severely damaged, no matter what site is selected.
ETA: funny thing: I think a lot of people voted Yes due to the urgency of getting MV built

you might just feel differently about the highlighted comment if you lived in my area...I'll leave it at that

the only thing I want out of the deal, is not to get the worst deal possible... I think that is asking minimal

[warriorpride]

yeson321 said:

warriorpride said:

Well, I'm not going to pretend to be 100% altruistic - I am willing to admit I want something (not a lot, but something) out of the deal. I want what's best for my kids, which is what I think most want. I don't see how the kids in 204 are going to be severely damaged, no matter what site is selected.

ETA: funny thing: I think a lot of people voted Yes due to the urgency of getting MV built

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At the time that people cast their ballots, no one anticipated that we would be in the situation that we are now and that there would be such a delay in land acquisition. Timing was more a given. Therefore, there were probably more deciding factors in how people voted. I know many that voted "yes" because they felt that Brach Brodie was the best land left in the district, and they were told that this was the district's last opportunity to get the land.

I also hope that the SB will make the best long term decision, and not a rush decision that will be questioned in years to come.

The land's drying up. MSs and HSs are at/over capacity. MV needs to get built ASAP.

Some didn't agree with BB. Some won't agree with Macom, north, south, east, or west. People have been questioning decisions, and will continue, regardless of the outcome.

[confused]

warriorpride said:

yeson321 said:

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At the time that people cast their ballots, no one anticipated that we would be in the situation that we are now and that there would be such a delay in land acquisition. Timing was more a given. Therefore, there were probably more deciding factors in how people voted. I know many that voted "yes" because they felt that Brach Brodie was the best land left in the district, and they were told that this was the district's last opportunity to get the land.

I also hope that the SB will make the best long term decision, and not a rush decision that will be questioned in years to come.

The land's drying up. MSs and HSs are at/over capacity. MV needs to get built ASAP.

Some didn't agree with BB. Some won't agree with Macom, north, south, east, or west. People have been questioning decisions, and will continue, regardless of the outcome.

This is such a copout - to say that someone will be upset no matter what - of course, they will, but that doesn't make it excusable to make a decision that will be an ongoing negative for the district, for years and years and years to come.

[confused]

Furthermore, the school does need to be built sooner rather than later, however, nothing is changing. The schools are already beyond capacity, overcrowded and less than ideal. It's not as if the schools are going to blow up, they'll just have to deal with a less than ideal situation for another year.

[EagleDad]

warriorpride said:

The land's drying up. MSs and HSs are at/over capacity. MV needs to get built ASAP.

Some didn't agree with BB. Some won't agree with Macom, north, south, east, or west. People have been questioning decisions, and will continue, regardless of the outcome.

Yes, but in a few scenarios the "some" (those that are upset) are much larger than in others. And also in a few the some that are upset very closely match those that largely supported the referendum (not good for moving forward, IMO).

In the words of a logically thinking Vulcan:

"The needs of the many outweigh those of the few"

..or the one.

[gatormom]

eagledad said:

Yes, but in a few scenarios the "some" (those that are upset) are much larger than in others. And also in a few the some that are upset very closely match those that largely supported the referendum (not good for moving forward, IMO).

In the words of a logically thinking Vulcan:

"The needs of the many outweigh those of the few"

..or the one.

Silly me, I thought this was about building a high school to alleviate overcrowding in this district and not to satisfy the wants of a very vocal group of voters.

That being said, just build it. Pick some dirt, buy it and build. I can only hope that the property is selected on merit and not because it has the loudest supporters.

[bob]

d204mom said:

bob said:

3 sites

1) Macom
2) AME
3) Ferry Rd

bob - why did you choose Ferry Rd as one of the hypothetical sites? Did I miss something and a board member mentioned this site or is it conjecture?

A couple of people have posted it here a few times.