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Post by doctorwho on Jan 3, 2008 18:42:26 GMT -6
.... Does Steck want to leave WV for a northern site ( what about walkers )? Does McCarty want to leave WV for a northern site ( what about walkers)? Does Georgetown want to leave WV ( ( many walkers)-? Does Gombert want to travel past WV to get to a northern site? Does WE want to drive past WV to get to a northern site and the furthest school from their home ? Does Cowlishaw want to more than double their commute to go to a northern site - and the furthest school from their home? Does Watts want to more than double it's commute to go to a northern site - then the longest commute from in the district ? 3 - 4 of these have to happen to populate MVHS @ AME or heaven help us Ferry Rd. ... good summary drwho. My opinion is: Steck and Mcc (minus walkers: handful at best for steck, very natural divisions are there for the chosing with Mcc) going north may just do the trick. If I lived in St/Mcc area and were in thier shoes (shoes that over past year I have tried on for myself already) I would feel that yes, I am getting my second choice in HS assignment, however my area is going together and is certainly not an island. The just across Eola road community is right there with me. I see this as a good deal. To me, in fact, its a "better deal" than Gombert Main gets out of its BB assignment. The distance increase is similar, yet they arent paying the same "island" penalty. For Gombert Main with BB,our just-across-the-road neighbors are at a different HS, arent they? And my area is very largely supportive of this. If we can come to this point, I will project that Steck and Mcc areas would come to feel same way after they think about it. One word about certain northern boundaries not being "mathematically" possible: If you say WV for example cannot ever hold any students in excess of 3000 OR if we are sticking with the circa 2005 growth model (ex: Ashwood adding 500 ES students quickly), then yes that is probably literally true. However, if you modify/revise some of those assumptions, then certain boundaries do work. For example: draw boundary at Ogden Ave (minus walkers) for the north MV attendance area. I do believe that Steck and McCarty would need some convincing - but let's assume that that happens.... still need 1 - 2 more depending on size of the ES's involved. |
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Post by wvhsparent on Jan 3, 2008 18:58:32 GMT -6
Well how is the DFP doing money financially? The Forest Preserve is doing well...it's the rest of the County that is tanking.... |
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Post by EagleDad on Jan 3, 2008 19:31:52 GMT -6
If I lived in St/Mcc area and were in thier shoes (shoes that over past year I have tried on for myself already) I would feel that yes, I am getting my second choice in HS assignment, however my area is going together and is certainly not an island. The just across Eola road community is right there with me. I see this as a good deal. To me, in fact, its a "better deal" than Gombert Main gets out of its BB assignment. The distance increase is similar, yet they arent paying the same "island" penalty. For Gombert Main with BB,our just-across-the-road neighbors are at a different HS, arent they? And my area is very largely supportive of this. If we can come to this point, I will project that Steck and Mcc areas would come to feel same way after they think about it. Why aren't Gombert and White Eagle "just across the road neighbors"? I can throw a rock out my back yard (well, OK maybe my next door neighbors yard) and break a window of a home in the Gombert attendance area. Doesn't that meet the criteria? |
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Post by gatormom on Jan 3, 2008 19:45:14 GMT -6
If I lived in St/Mcc area and were in thier shoes (shoes that over past year I have tried on for myself already) I would feel that yes, I am getting my second choice in HS assignment, however my area is going together and is certainly not an island. The just across Eola road community is right there with me. I see this as a good deal. To me, in fact, its a "better deal" than Gombert Main gets out of its BB assignment. The distance increase is similar, yet they arent paying the same "island" penalty. For Gombert Main with BB,our just-across-the-road neighbors are at a different HS, arent they? And my area is very largely supportive of this. If we can come to this point, I will project that Steck and Mcc areas would come to feel same way after they think about it. Why aren't Gombert and White Eagle "just across the road neighbors"? I can throw a rock out my back yard (well, OK maybe my next door neighbors yard) and break a window of a home in the Gombert attendance area. Doesn't that meet the criteria? So that was you? ;D You would have to throw that rock over the Eagle Pointe homes, across Normantown Road, and then the train tracks to hit a house from Gombert. No, not just across the road. Nice thought though. |
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Post by gatordog on Jan 3, 2008 19:47:14 GMT -6
[Why aren't Gombert and White Eagle "just across the road neighbors"? I can throw a rock out my back yard (well, OK maybe my next door neighbors yard) and break a window of a home in the Gombert attendance area. Doesn't that meet the criteria? is it just me...or is everybody getting all lawyerly lately  those RR tracks are big barriers, though. It does not meet my famous do-you-ride-your-bike there neighborhood criteria. We could go on and on and on about what makes a "neighborhood", but i think short and sweet--seat of your pants  -- definitions can be effective |
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Post by EagleDad on Jan 3, 2008 19:52:38 GMT -6
Why aren't Gombert and White Eagle "just across the road neighbors"? I can throw a rock out my back yard (well, OK maybe my next door neighbors yard) and break a window of a home in the Gombert attendance area. Doesn't that meet the criteria? So that was you? ;D You would have to throw that rock over the Eagle Pointe homes, across Normantown Road, and then the train tracks to hit a house from Gombert. No, not just across the road. Nice thought though. I thought Heatherstone was part of Gombert - Isn't it? If not I stand corrected. need a smaller rock, to work out my arm, and possibly a big slingshot. Also, White Eagle Point is part of WE - can they hit anyone? ;D |
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Post by slp on Jan 3, 2008 19:56:49 GMT -6
So that was you? ;D You would have to throw that rock over the Eagle Pointe homes, across Normantown Road, and then the train tracks to hit a house from Gombert. No, not just across the road. Nice thought though. I thought Heatherstone was part of Gombert - Isn't it? If not I stand corrected. need a smaller rock, to work out my arm, and possibly a big slingshot. Also, White Eagle Point is part of WE - can they hit anyone? ;D ED, Put down the boxed wine. White Eagle Point is not part of White Eagle, infact, it is not called White Eagle Point...just Eagle Point. ETA: spelling might be 'Pointe'...not sure. |
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Post by gatormom on Jan 3, 2008 19:58:10 GMT -6
So that was you? ;D You would have to throw that rock over the Eagle Pointe homes, across Normantown Road, and then the train tracks to hit a house from Gombert. No, not just across the road. Nice thought though. I thought Heatherstone was part of Gombert - Isn't it? If not I stand corrected. need a smaller rock, to work out my arm, and possibly a big slingshot. Also, White Eagle Point is part of WE - can they hit anyone? ;D No Heatherstone is not part of Gombert. I think with a big sling shot, the Eagle Point folk could hit some Gombert homes. You know, if there was a crosswalk over those tracks, maybe our kids could get down there to hang with your kids. As it is, the road narrows there and there is no sidewalk. |
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Post by EagleDad on Jan 3, 2008 19:58:41 GMT -6
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Post by slp on Jan 3, 2008 20:04:48 GMT -6
Are you talking about who attends White Eagle School or who resides in White Eagle subdivision? That might be confusing. Both Eagle Point and Heatherstone attend White Eagle Elementary school, however, those neighborhoods are separate subdivsions from White Eagle subdivision. Heatherstone is on the southern border of White Eagle subdivision at 95th street and Eagle Pointe is on the western edge of White Eagle near the Fieldhouse YMCA and the train tracks. |
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Post by EagleDad on Jan 3, 2008 20:10:49 GMT -6
OK, someone from Eagle Point (WE ES) can hit Eagle Trace (Gombert ES) with a rock.
They're kitty-corner across Montgomery.
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Post by slp on Jan 3, 2008 20:17:23 GMT -6
OK, someone from Eagle Point (WE ES) can hit Eagle Trace (Gombert ES) with a rock. They're kitty-corner across Montgomery. true |
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Post by d204mom on Jan 4, 2008 0:05:05 GMT -6
Well how is the DFP doing money financially? We just passed a 60+ Mil ref for them to buy more land and fancy heated garages.... They just bought a big chunk of land near Lucent, I believe. They are flush. |
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Post by d204mom on Jan 4, 2008 0:22:58 GMT -6
I agree. Not sure I've posted before, but I have been following this board since Feb. 2006. Interestingly, if you agree that the population center of the district is near Route 59/Montgomery Road, you can take the projected populations for the three high-schools and do some math. You'll discover that the ideal location for MVHS is actually, not on the far south-end of the district, but, rather somewhere just north of 75th St., about 1/2 way between Naperville/Plainfield and Book. I recognize this doesn't take into account the full build-out, but I would be hard-pressed to believe that additional students would move this location two or three miles to the south. So as a 'central' site- would draw the areas north of NV like Springbrook / and Owen & Clow and or Welch ( some walkers an issue ) , / and Watts- Cowlishaw- and if BD wanted a new school - they could then make the same commute to HS that Watts & Cowlishaw make to Hill. Ditto for Longwood. - but where is 60 - 80 acres there ? Only land of that magnitude there is south of 75th and is forest preserve - not a chance in this lifetime of getting that land changed to be able to use for a school. If there was land there maybe Gatordog could do a scenario, but I am unaware of any tract that size. HEY I've got a whale of a great idea. Let's file a condenmantion suit against the entire Windgate of Three Farms neighborhood. I'm sure they would take one for the team and hand over their homes for a new high school! If not I hear eminent domain cases speed right through the courts. I know a good lawyer we could use! Speaking of that I drove by Steve Helm's office and dagnabit if he doesn't have a fancy new sign on the front of the building. I bet business is booming! |
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-- definitions can be effective