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Post by Daisy on Dec 19, 2007 21:40:17 GMT -6
To the best of my knowledge, and without giving away all the details, this is the gist of the Macom offer to the SB. I was not told this in confidence, and I've actually gotten the same story from two different sources. I've been mulling over whether to post this for the past month and finally decided there was nothing to lose because, at this point and again to the best of my knowledge, the SB is not talking to Macom.
I'm not sure of the exact figure, but I have confidence that my numbers are pretty accurate. Macom offered to do a land swap for the 25 BB acres plus just over $13,000,000 for their site. Macom has heard nothing back from the SB since they made this proposal.
This would seem to be a fair and financially favorable proposal for the district and I cannot begin to speculate why the SB is not following back up with Macom. Again, I hesitated about posting this because I didn't want to hurt negotiations but, from what I've heard and to my intense disappointment, they are not seriously negotiating with Macom.
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Post by warriorpride on Dec 19, 2007 21:47:14 GMT -6
I'll allow others to debate the merits & validity of this, along with guesses as to what the SB is or isn't doing and/or why they are or aren't doing it. Thanks, but no thanks - I'm not going to play that game.
ETA: which is next: a story in the newspaper or a full-page ad?
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Post by Daisy on Dec 19, 2007 21:54:31 GMT -6
I'd like to see both. I don't like being kept in the dark.
ETA: The more information the better, as far as I am concerned. The lack thereof is what has been frustrating me about this whole process.
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Post by d204mom on Dec 19, 2007 21:55:56 GMT -6
Well by my calculations that represents a price drop from the earlier published offer. I guess that's a good thing.
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Post by wvhsparent on Dec 19, 2007 21:57:48 GMT -6
Welcome Daisy...WOW. That was a doozey of a 1st post.
Gonna need to see a few more details before I comment further. If you have them now's the time to divulge them.
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Post by Daisy on Dec 19, 2007 22:12:31 GMT -6
Thank you for the welcome! I starting composing my post with as much detail as I had, then decided to whittle it down to just the bottom line number because it is so difficult to be accurate when dealing with second hand information.
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Post by warriorpride on Dec 19, 2007 22:18:07 GMT -6
Thank you for the welcome! I starting composing my post with as much detail as I had, then decided to whittle it down to just the bottom line number because it is so difficult to be accurate when dealing with second hand information. some other details that might be interesting would be who gave you this information (not a name, but their role in this) & why they gave it to you
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Post by doctorwho on Dec 19, 2007 23:35:10 GMT -6
To the best of my knowledge, and without giving away all the details, this is the gist of the Macom offer to the SB. I was not told this in confidence, and I've actually gotten the same story from two different sources. I've been mulling over whether to post this for the past month and finally decided there was nothing to lose because, at this point and again to the best of my knowledge, the SB is not talking to Macom. I'm not sure of the exact figure, but I have confidence that my numbers are pretty accurate. Macom offered to do a land swap for the 25 BB acres plus just over $13,000,000 for their site. Macom has heard nothing back from the SB since they made this proposal. This would seem to be a fair and financially favorable proposal for the district and I cannot begin to speculate why the SB is not following back up with Macom. Again, I hesitated about posting this because I didn't want to hurt negotiations but, from what I've heard and to my intense disappointment, they are not seriously negotiating with Macom. Welcome also - and quite the splash for an entry ! From what you do know was this offer just made recently ( last week or so ) or longer than that ? Is there any way to substantiate the no negotiations / reply portion ? One of the reasons I ask is that to fulfill the offer as explained here, the SB would have to make sure they could keep the 25 acres @ BB ( not have to sell it back to BB ) - before they could start any serious negotiations to make the rest of it happen.
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Post by Arch on Dec 19, 2007 23:54:56 GMT -6
Swap the land and have Macom kick in 13 million for the district to take it.. now that would be a deal.
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Post by Daisy on Dec 20, 2007 6:36:46 GMT -6
To the best of my knowledge, and without giving away all the details, this is the gist of the Macom offer to the SB. I was not told this in confidence, and I've actually gotten the same story from two different sources. I've been mulling over whether to post this for the past month and finally decided there was nothing to lose because, at this point and again to the best of my knowledge, the SB is not talking to Macom. I'm not sure of the exact figure, but I have confidence that my numbers are pretty accurate. Macom offered to do a land swap for the 25 BB acres plus just over $13,000,000 for their site. Macom has heard nothing back from the SB since they made this proposal. This would seem to be a fair and financially favorable proposal for the district and I cannot begin to speculate why the SB is not following back up with Macom. Again, I hesitated about posting this because I didn't want to hurt negotiations but, from what I've heard and to my intense disappointment, they are not seriously negotiating with Macom. Welcome also - and quite the splash for an entry ! From what you do know was this offer just made recently ( last week or so ) or longer than that ? Is there any way to substantiate the no negotiations / reply portion ? One of the reasons I ask is that to fulfill the offer as explained here, the SB would have to make sure they could keep the 25 acres @ BB ( not have to sell it back to BB ) - before they could start any serious negotiations to make the rest of it happen. I first heard this information at the beginning of November. I questioned the land swap as well and was told that BB didn't want the land back. Without the land swap, the number is $19,700,000. The land swap was put in to sweeten the deal. And, as far as my sources and substantiating the no negotiations, I think this information is out there if you dig for it. I called and introduced myself to some complete strangers who I thought might be able to back up what I had already heard and they did.
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Post by dpc on Dec 20, 2007 7:52:31 GMT -6
If I recall correctly (which is getting difficult these days with all of the information swirling around), the SB has to sell back the 25 acres to BB if they do not build a school on it. Does anyone else know the details on this?
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Post by wvhsparent on Dec 20, 2007 7:54:27 GMT -6
OK I'll come right to the point. Still not enough info especially from a new poster to put much weight into it. As we have told many before....If you make a claim, you must be the one to cite the sources, we don't "dig for it". Who did you call? What did you ask? Do you have any more frequent poster here to corroborate your claims?
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Post by blankcheck on Dec 20, 2007 7:57:01 GMT -6
dpc-Yes, that is what I thought as well. If they did not build a school onthe property, they were required to sell it back to BB. I think they had stated that they could always build a middle school on that land if they needed to, that is why they went ahead with the purchase.
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Post by Arch on Dec 20, 2007 8:03:53 GMT -6
If I recall correctly (which is getting difficult these days with all of the information swirling around), the SB has to sell back the 25 acres to BB if they do not build a school on it. Does anyone else know the details on this? The remainder of that situation is that the selling price of the land (to sell back to BB) is exactly what the SB paid for it, minus fees. Unfortunately, those fees are not a precisely known number that I am aware of.
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Post by wvhsparent on Dec 20, 2007 8:05:31 GMT -6
If I recall correctly (which is getting difficult these days with all of the information swirling around), the SB has to sell back the 25 acres to BB if they do not build a school on it. Does anyone else know the details on this? The settlement states that the SD has to offer it back to BB 1st at the price they got it at. BB is not required to take it back. In the latest motion to dismiss, within the BB filings, there was an indication that BB does not want the 25 acres back. Which I then interpret to mean the SD could do whatever it wants with the parcel, after it gets a formal "we don't want it" letter from the BB folks.
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