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[doctorwho]

sleeplessinnpvl said:

proschool said:

I can't help but to think that this will have something to do with Owen.

Based on the current boundaries, I can't see how adding kids to Springbrook would have something to do with Owen. You can't swap Owen with Springbrook because that would mean SB would have to go to Metea so Owen can go to NV? Now that would be insane. Plus the Owen student population would not match SB's.

hey c'mon up to MV -- I am sure someone will send you a GPS link to show it is only .9 miles further than NV and a Laidlaw superbus to get you there in 30 minutes....

[doctorwho]

doctorwho said:

sleeplessinnpvl said:

Based on the current boundaries, I can't see how adding kids to Springbrook would have something to do with Owen. You can't swap Owen with Springbrook because that would mean SB would have to go to Metea so Owen can go to NV? Now that would be insane. Plus the Owen student population would not match SB's.

hey c'mon up to MV -- I am sure someone will send you a GPS link to show it is only .9 miles further than NV and a Laidlaw superbus to get you there in 30 minutes....

then of course the one they will be sending to the 15 schools closest to their HS so that they can 'even off' the average times

[doctorwho]

And I did get a 'spy shot' of the school bus they are sending to Watts and Owen -- and we doubted the times...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1Kd7g9PQAQ

[WeBe204]

doctorwho said:

And I did get a 'spy shot' of the school bus they are sending to Watts and Owen -- and we doubted the times...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1Kd7g9PQAQ

That was awesome. I am not worthy

[Arch]

Bravo

[forthekids]

newbie said:

sleeplessinnpvl said:

I would make it a point to question the board on that. I really hope they address this issue on Tuesday because it doesn't seem like the letter was enough to satisfy people.

Eagledad was correct about the letter.

It did more to say "screw you Tall Grass" than anything else!

Could someone explain to me why TG seemed to accept the move to BB but now are unhappy about going to WV (which is not that much farther down Ogden from BB)? Obviously, no one would say it has anything to do with not wanting to go to WV. So how do they justify the current outrage?

[newbie]

forthekids said:

newbie said:

Eagledad was correct about the letter.

It did more to say "screw you Tall Grass" than anything else!

Could someone explain to me why TG seemed to accept the move to BB but now are unhappy about going to WV (which is not that much farther down Ogden from BB)? Obviously, no one would say it has anything to do with not wanting to go to WV. So how do they justify the current outrage?

Well for one, TG residents VOTED to approve BB as the new high school, not MIDWGEN site.

[forthekids]

newbie said:

forthekids said:

Could someone explain to me why TG seemed to accept the move to BB but now are unhappy about going to WV (which is not that much farther down Ogden from BB)? Obviously, no one would say it has anything to do with not wanting to go to WV. So how do they justify the current outrage?

Well for one, TG residents VOTED to approve BB as the new high school, not MIDWGEN site.

So they only voted to approve the BB site so they could go there? It wasn't an altruistic vote? All about me and screw the community. No wonder people have a hard time accepting the complaining. Plus, they are not going to Metea, they are going to WV. So, that argument holds no water.

[newbie]

forthekids said:

newbie said:

Well for one, TG residents VOTED to approve BB as the new high school, not MIDWGEN site.

So they only voted to approve the BB site so they could go there? It wasn't an altruistic vote? All about me and screw the community. No wonder people have a hard time accepting the complaining. Plus, they are not going to Metea, they are going to WV. So, that argument holds no water.

Forthekids,

I realize you have something against the Fry attendance area. 12 of your last 14 posts have been to speak out against the opinions of those in that area.

I tend to think they are entitled to opinion. You should as well, even if you disagree with it, what's the harm in being respectful that it is just that- an opinion?

Frankly, I think there are some bigger issues more worthy of discussion than how the Fry attendance feels, don't you?

[forthekids]

newbie said:

forthekids said:

So they only voted to approve the BB site so they could go there? It wasn't an altruistic vote? All about me and screw the community. No wonder people have a hard time accepting the complaining. Plus, they are not going to Metea, they are going to WV. So, that argument holds no water.

Forthekids,

I realize you have something against the Fry attendance area. 12 of your last 14 posts have been to speak out against the opinions of those in that area.

I tend to think they are entitled to opinion. You should as well, even if you disagree with it, what's the harm in being respectful that it is just that- opinion.

Well, I agree, it is your opinion that I have been disrespectful. But, your assertion that I have something against the Fry attendance area is totally incorrect. My questions are open and honest. I disagree with the argument that the bridge makes all of the Fry attendance area walkers to NVHS. All of my posts have been an effort to get someone to explain their reasoning to me all the while explaining why I don't believe the thinking is logical. Don't put words into my posts or make inferences that I did not intend. I know one person that lives in Tall Grass and we have not had any discussions about this topic. So saying that I have something against an entire community is insulting to me and I won't accept your comment as truth. My observation is that it seems to me that anyone going on and on about the bridge is someone that is affected by the move and is fighting to change things. The basis of the argument is the bridge. The bridge does not and will not give Fry what it seems to want the most, not to go to WVHS. That is what I resent. When TG supported the referendum and accepted that the community would be moved out of NVHS to a different school, they were not given the guarantee that the new school would be Metea. Those boundaries were based on Metea being at BB. That is not where Metea will be and so Fry will still be moved out of NVHS but now to WVHS. Can't the people who are going on and on about the bridge see that they are really saying they don't want to go to WVHS? The bridge is only an issue now because of the new boundaries. My community will be going to WVHS, yet the uproar is coming from Fry (obviously not all of Fry, but those on this board from Fry who keep bringing up the bridge issue), not my community. Again I ask, why? The only variable is the high school that Fry will be transferred to. I do not appreciate the negative implication that WVHS is good enough for everyone else but Fry.

[newbie]

I think you might be misinterpreting the issue. It seems a little unfair to assume people want to use the bridge because they feel entitled to go to NVHS.

I don't think it's fair to assume that there are people attempting to use the bridge issue to "stay out of WHVS". Until someone here from the Fry community states that as their motivation, I think it's a stretch, and unfair, to make blatant accusations and assumptions on their motivation.

[forthekids]

newbie said:

I think you might be misinterpreting the issue. It seems a little unfair to assume people want to use the bridge because they feel entitled to go to NVHS.

I don't think it's fair to assume that there are people attempting to use the bridge issue to "stay out of WHVS". Until someone here from the Fry community states that as their motivation, I think it's a stretch, and unfair, to make blatant accusations and assumptions on their motivation.

This will be my last comment on this issue. But your name says it all, Newbie. You must be new if you are unable to connect the dots. Good luck to the bridge campaigners. My family will happily move on to WVHS because it is what needs to be done to reduce overcrowding. Do I want to move out of NVHS, of course not, it's a great school. But I believe in the big picture. We have a great school district and WVHS will give our kids a great education! As I have said many times, no one likes change. But, in this area change is inevitable. We live in a very transient area and I have yet to meet anyone who's company wants to transfer them to a new city saying no, my kids can walk to their high school so were not moving!

[204family]

This is loaded but here goes. I was happy with BB b/c it was a centrally located site. I liked the idea of having the schools close enough that you could tweak some of the achievement gaps between WV and MV. Now, I think we're backfilling MV. I think this is going to be an ongoing problem.

On a selfish note, I used to live in the Villages of Meadowlakes. We were bussed to Owen. I was thrilled to see Owen going to BB.

In regards to NV. No matter how many maps you show me, I'm always going to believe WB is a far hike from TG. You can bet I would be screaming from the rooftops if I lived on the east side of TG. The bridge is literally in the backyard of those townhouses. The bridge is horizontal to the back of the NV. Drive past it, turn your head East and you'll see what I mean. But, let's agree to disagree on that one.

I won't even get into how much money we're walking away from with the whole BB mess b/c I really don't know. That bugs me. I guess I would like to dig more into that before we start spending in another location. I don't like the school board treating me like a dumb housewife that should just trust the decisions they make.

[forthekids]

204family said:

This is loaded but here goes. I was happy with BB b/c it was a centrally located site. I liked the idea of having the schools close enough that you could tweak some of the achievement gaps between WV and MV. Now, I think we're backfilling MV. I think this is going to be an ongoing problem.

On a selfish note, I used to live in the Villages of Meadowlakes. We were bussed to Owen. I was thrilled to see Owen going to BB.

In regards to NV. No matter how many maps you show me, I'm always going to believe WB is a far hike from TG. You can bet I would be screaming from the rooftops if I lived on the east side of TG. The bridge is literally in the backyard of those townhouses. The bridge is horizontal to the back of the NV. Drive past it, turn your head East and you'll see what I mean. But, let's agree to disagree on that one.

I won't even get into how much money we're walking away from with the whole BB mess b/c I really don't know. That bugs me. I guess I would like to dig more into that before we start spending in another location. I don't like the school board treating me like a dumb housewife that should just trust the decisions they make.

I totally agree with your points, especially about BB. If anyone had asked me, I would have voted to just bite the BB bullet and keep the school there for all the reasons you mentioned!

[sleeplessinnpvl]

forthekids said:

.......My family will happily move on to WVHS because it is what needs to be done to reduce overcrowding. Do I want to move out of NVHS, of course not, it's a great school. But I believe in the big picture. We have a great school district and WVHS will give our kids a great education! As I have said many times, no one likes change. But, in this area change is inevitable. We live in a very transient area and I have yet to meet anyone who's company wants to transfer them to a new city saying no, my kids can walk to their high school so were not moving!

Nice thought, forthekids. My hope is that more people will eventually begin to think like you. Yes, this situation stinks. I feel for all of the unhappy people.

I also understand the helplessness that the Watts, Cowlishaw and Fry people must be feeling. After all, the bigger problems lie with Owen (distance) and Petersen (split everything). It would sure look bad to go into the board meeting Tuesday and complain about your issues. How can Watts now complain about their commute when Owen is so much further? The board knew how to silence them alright. How can Fry complain about their distance and split middle schools when both Owen and Petersen have the same thing? Again, too many fires to put out. IMO the big fires are Owen and Petersen and the other fires are not going to get solved in this lifetime. I'm not even sure how the big fires are going to be put out. BB was the better site and there were 2 unhappy schools in that proposal. How can anyone not think that there will be more unhappy schools with this proposal. And I don't see a plan that will EVER reduce the number of unhappy schools back down to 2. If boundaries are played with, it's just going to make different schools unhappy, but there will still probably be 5 unhappy schools when it's all over.