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Post by Arch on Feb 18, 2006 19:30:08 GMT -6
Isn't the fine something like up to $1,000 per violation if someone complains to the Postal Inspector?
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Post by blankcheck on Feb 18, 2006 19:33:48 GMT -6
Could be! Big No No! - Also - I think the "No tax increase" is totally misleading. You sort of need to read the fine print to realize they are only talking about 16% of your tax bill will not increase.
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Post by Arch on Feb 18, 2006 19:48:24 GMT -6
Woops!
From the U.S. Code Online via GPO Access
[wais.access.gpo.gov]
[Laws in effect as of January 7, 2003]
[Document not affected by Public Laws enacted between
January 7, 2003 and February 12, 2003]
[CITE: 18USC1725]
TITLE 18--CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I--CRIMES
CHAPTER 83--POSTAL SERVICE
Sec. 1725. Postage unpaid on deposited mail matter
Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits any mailable matter such as
statements of accounts, circulars, sale bills, or other like matter, on
which no postage has been paid, in any letter box established, approved,
or accepted by the Postal Service for the receipt or delivery of mail
matter on any mail route with intent to avoid payment of lawful postage
thereon, shall for each such offense be fined under this title.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 784; Pub. L. 91-375, Sec. 6(j)(33),
Aug. 12, 1970, 84 Stat. 780; Pub. L. 103-322, title XXXIII,
Sec. 330016(1)(F), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)
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Post by doctorwho on Feb 18, 2006 21:48:33 GMT -6
Mailbox should have been a definite no - no....I would hope people were coached on that before delivery -- hence the design for door hanging............
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Post by kae on Feb 18, 2006 22:50:37 GMT -6
"No Tax Increase!" ...and the saying: "There's No Such Thing as a Free Lunch" will ring through the reader's mind. Just think how much your taxes would go down if you voted NO!  |
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Post by stinks on Feb 18, 2006 22:54:17 GMT -6
Woops! From the U.S. Code Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov] [Laws in effect as of January 7, 2003] [Document not affected by Public Laws enacted between January 7, 2003 and February 12, 2003] [CITE: 18USC1725] TITLE 18--CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE PART I--CRIMES CHAPTER 83--POSTAL SERVICE Sec. 1725. Postage unpaid on deposited mail matter Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits any mailable matter such as statements of accounts, circulars, sale bills, or other like matter, on which no postage has been paid, in any letter box established, approved, or accepted by the Postal Service for the receipt or delivery of mail matter on any mail route with intent to avoid payment of lawful postage thereon, shall for each such offense be fined under this title. (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 784; Pub. L. 91-375, Sec. 6(j)(33), Aug. 12, 1970, 84 Stat. 780; Pub. L. 103-322, title XXXIII, Sec. 330016(1)(F), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.) I don't think the intent element is there. |
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Post by kae on Feb 18, 2006 22:57:02 GMT -6
Woops! From the U.S. Code Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov] [Laws in effect as of January 7, 2003] [Document not affected by Public Laws enacted between January 7, 2003 and February 12, 2003] [CITE: 18USC1725] TITLE 18--CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE PART I--CRIMES CHAPTER 83--POSTAL SERVICE Sec. 1725. Postage unpaid on deposited mail matter Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits any mailable matter such as statements of accounts, circulars, sale bills, or other like matter, on which no postage has been paid, in any letter box established, approved, or accepted by the Postal Service for the receipt or delivery of mail matter on any mail route with intent to avoid payment of lawful postage thereon, shall for each such offense be fined under this title. (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 784; Pub. L. 91-375, Sec. 6(j)(33), Aug. 12, 1970, 84 Stat. 780; Pub. L. 103-322, title XXXIII, Sec. 330016(1)(F), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.) I don't think the intent element is there. I'm sorry POSTMASTER. I didn't know I wasn't supposed to put that in the mailbox. |
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Post by stinks on Feb 18, 2006 22:59:19 GMT -6
Your point is . . .
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Post by kae on Feb 18, 2006 23:03:42 GMT -6
Hey ed: Can you really sleep at night knowing that these door hangers are not truthful when they say no tax increase? You can bet that when my tax bill comes and the school portion goes up, I'll be at your door step. Those flyers come from the coffers of the 204thekids PAC. They don't have to tell you everything. They don't care if they're misleading at all. They just want your YES vote. They don't have to worry because they've done nothing wrong ... at least according to the law. You might be really mad when you find out you got taken to the cleaners, but that's really your problem isn't it. ;D That's why it's important to do your own research. |
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Post by kae on Feb 18, 2006 23:04:31 GMT -6
I didn't "intend" to do wrong. |
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Post by kae on Feb 18, 2006 23:14:46 GMT -6
Hey, I bet you won't be seeing any glossy door hangers from that VoteNO PAC. I don't think they have any money. You know it's always the money that wins the votes.
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Post by warriorpride on Feb 19, 2006 7:24:29 GMT -6
Hey, I bet you won't be seeing any glossy door hangers from that VoteNO PAC. I don't think they have any money. You know it's always the money that wins the votes. I've seen "Vote No" signs, so someone had the money to pay for those. |
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Post by Avenging Eagle on Feb 19, 2006 16:55:43 GMT -6
That's why it's important to do your own research. What if my research agrees with the same conclusion of the evil PAC's.....Do I go against them to get back at them.... Or do I have to vote YES despite the fact that I resent them.  I have one on my rear view mirror right now, and I have been able to park in the handicap spots very easily...[/joke] Also, 1/2 of my view is obstructed when I am driving, and I might smash into a student racing for school because of these things [/no joke] Oh, I forgot...it is a "door hanger"...not a rear-view mirror hanger.. That's like the fine print on Q-tips boxes saying "do not insert in the ear". Everyone does it anyway ( #$%@ lawyers...  (sorry Stinks)) |
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Post by gruany on Feb 19, 2006 18:56:46 GMT -6
so, the instuctions said to break the law..... as a last resort.
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Post by stinks on Feb 19, 2006 19:39:00 GMT -6
I explained it earlier. Please go back and read.
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(sorry Stinks))