Vote-No's Credibility Challenged

[cantretirehere]

wvhsparent said:

CRH......Are you sure you did not go door to door in my subdiv???

Sadly, I didn't need to go door to door anywhere, it's just the general buzz among the NOs

[fence]

CRH, I thought your post was really good. I think that about sums up alot of the thoughts. Its easy to see that with the exception of a few, there's really not too much anyone can say to change some of these perspectives. Everything you listed was pretty much in line with what I knew to be true.

I guess in my opinion the reality of what you describe represents a bit of a hopeless cycle. The YES voters are in the position of having kids be affected by the current and near-future crowding, while alot of NO voters with younger kids are those of the "wait and see what happens" position. Unfortunately, the YES voters with kids in the system now are going to be the "screw you" voters of the future ITRF. And so forth ad infinitum! What a mess!

[cantretirehere]

fence said:

Unfortunately, the YES voters with kids in the system now are going to be the "screw you" voters of the future ITRF. And so forth ad infinitum! What a mess!

Unless they are truely altruistic.

[cantretirehere]

fence said:

I guess in my opinion the reality of what you describe represents a bit of a hopeless cycle.

It first I thought the word you used was hopelessness and then I realized you said hopeless.

What is sad is that many of the people that feel they were slighted by the ABSOLUTE refusal of HC to even consider a 3rd HS when the gold campus debate was in force felt hopeless and defeated. I guess when one's kids suffer (whether percieved or real) it is a hard thing to recover from and let go of.

[proschool]

cantretirehere said:

fence said:

Unfortunately, the YES voters with kids in the system now are going to be the "screw you" voters of the future ITRF. And so forth ad infinitum! What a mess!

Unless they are truely altruistic.

Evolutionary biologists doubt the existance of true altruism.


I support a lot of great high school programs now even though my kids are only in elementary school. I supported great high school programs in 204 before my kids were even born.

I support great school becasue I think that they are important for children. Logically, I think that great schools are important for my children too.

If someone thinks that they will just sit it out supporting high school for a few years and count on a yes vote for a new high school just in time for their own kids they may get an unpleasant surprize.

Personally I won't be around for that referendum because I will have my kids enrolled in an outstanding high school even if it means moving. ITRF I will have to sell my house to someone who isn't bothered by the prospect of crowded schools. The unfortunate thing for the "wait and sees" is that person would be unlikely to vote for new high school either.

[title1parent]

I agree Pro. The quality of education in this district is bigger than just one person. I, too have supported this district before my children benefited. We have to look at the bigger picture than what is directly affecting us. Yeah I wanted my children to go to WV. They may not. But do I want all of our children to suffer because I didn't get what I wanted? Do I want this district to lose it's appeal as providing excellent education? Education opens so many doors. If we allow this SD to take a step backwards, some doors that were readily open for our children, may become closed.

[sushi]

I say again, please attend a SB meeting- I was at Scullen on TUes and the capacity issue was discussed at length by Kathy Birkett; I was more convinced than ever that we need a new high school. There is a meeting at Fry on Monday night and one at Neuqua on Thursday night. Please attend! Also, please visit NVHS or WVHS during passing periods, talk to the kids, find out for yourself!

[justvote]

cantretirehere said:

fence said:

I guess in my opinion the reality of what you describe represents a bit of a hopeless cycle.

It first I thought the word you used was hopelessness and then I realized you said hopeless.

What is sad is that many of the people that feel they were slighted by the ABSOLUTE refusal of HC to even consider a 3rd HS when the gold campus debate was in force felt hopeless and defeated. I guess when one's kids suffer (whether percieved or real) it is a hard thing to recover from and let go of.

I remember HC's refusal to consider a 3rd high school like it was yesterday. I was furious when I heard that the referendum committee indicated a desire to research the viablility of a 3rd high school and HC shut them down cold. He was emphatic that the district did not need a 3rd high school and the committee was not allowed to take it under consideration. I still hold him completely responsible for the Freshman campus debacle.

That being said, how can someone use this as justification to vote "no"? The question today is "does our district need a 3rd high school"? The answer is an unequivocal yes. What's done is done. It's time to move forward and get it right this time.

[starfish]

Wasn't sure which thread to post this one in and maybe you have all seen it anyway - hope I am not being redundant.

voteno204.org/page2.html

[doctorwho]

starfish said:

Wasn't sure which thread to post this one in and maybe you have all seen it anyway - hope I am not being redundant.

voteno204.org/page2.html

I love the fact that they take NO RESPONSIBILITY for putting it on their website - regardless of who wrote it. This group continually dodge any ownership for their words and actions -- amazing !

Also they must be dumb enough to believe that only people outside of the WVHS area were upset by this. I have 2 emailsback from SB members who represent WVHS areas and they were apalled at this low brow approach. Also over the weekend when I had time to share this with people who are set to go to WVHS -- they were MUCH MORE upset than those outside of the WV area.

CFO is just clueless !