Money for programs and teachers instead?

[gatormom]

So let me get this straight, the SB asks for $75 million in a referendum to use for a whole bunch of enrichment programs? We can provide all kind of social services to families in need, extra classes for the very bright, cool field trips, and teachers education, and it will only cost $75 million. Let me think, that will be an easy pass.

[gatormom]

In your defense charmant, in a perfect world all this would be available to every child.

[gumby]

I suppose all that is well and good. But, I thought the additions thing was said to be unworkable. I didn't see any numbers in there that would indicate relieving the overcrowding situation. Could you please put in specific values as to how many students would go where and where you would build on?

If we are to run these schools at optimal capacity, we will have to find room to house over 3000 excess students. Until there is a reasonable workable plan put forward to ease the overcrowding, all else becomes moot.

Cheerleading for an "awesome" education is nice, but it does not get us far in trying to fix the looming problem.

[charmant]

gatormom said:

So let me get this straight, the SB asks for $75 million in a referendum to use for a whole bunch of enrichment programs? We can provide all kind of social services to families in need, extra classes for the very bright, cool field trips, and teachers education, and it will only cost $75 million. Let me think, that will be an easy pass.

If you classify this as 'just enrichment' that don't help with ALL of the seven intelligencias, vote yes for bricks

[gumby]

charmant said:

admin said:

So where do you get the $75 million from? I don't think you can use B&I money for this stuff.

I don't know the legalities at all. Fence asked, I answered.

If you can't use B & I for money like this, that is a sad state of affairs and laws need to change.

Possibly. But the fact is that we are running out of time. How are we, as a community, going to address this situation to fix the overcrowding.

Laws don't change overnight, and sometimes not at all. Isn't it more than a bit of a gamble to try to change laws that possibly may never change and leave us at ground zero if we wait until then?

Time is running out on an affordable solution as well as on avoiding a bad overcrowding situation.

[gatormom]

I never said "just" enrichment.

[charmant]

gumby said:

I suppose all that is well and good. But, I thought the additions thing was said to be unworkable. I didn't see any numbers in there that would indicate relieving the overcrowding situation. Could you please put in specific values as to how many students would go where and where you would build on?

If we are to run these schools at optimal capacity, we will have to find room to house over 3000 excess students. Until there is a reasonable workable plan put forward to ease the overcrowding, all else becomes moot.

Cheerleading for an "awesome" education is nice, but it does not get us far in trying to fix the looming problem.

I don't believe in optimal and I certainly don't believe in any excess over 800 students

But to answer your question, add on to NV, NVGold, Scullen, and where ever else the growth is. In addition (LOL) boundaries need to change to re align the poorly skewed boundaries need to change to try to even out enrollment in every school even if you split neighborhoods

[charmant]

p.s. I am not opposed to portables

[gatormom]

I am not understanding you. Are you stating that enrollment needs to be evened out even if that means splitting neighborhoods?

[charmant]

gatormom said:

I am not understanding you. Are you stating that enrollment needs to be evened out even if that means splitting neighborhoods?

What I mean is if there is an elementary school that has 850 capacity but has 575 students in it, we need to change the boundaries to get it up to capacity @ 85% would be 722 students. Especially since there are ES bursting.

Now if we could only find a way to use our 12$ Peterson Elementary school that is empty....................

[gatormom]

Actually, the SB talked about the ES and how they adjust enrollment just this morning at the coffee. They move the self-contained classes around to fill the empty spaces. Obviously on paper it looks like they have room for 28 kids, but you won't have more then half a dozen or so in one of those classes.

[gatormom]

Peterson DID NOT cost the taxpayers 12 million.

[charmant]

gatormom said:

Peterson DID NOT cost the taxpayers 12 million.

please correct me

[admin]

I think you are the one that should prove Peterson cost us $12 million. It has been mentioned here it was only $4 million. Until someone can actually prove out what Peterson cost , don't be picking numbers out of the air.

[gatormom]

Thank you Topher.

Another thing about the ES. While you may 50 or so seats open, it may be spread throughout the grades. What are you going to do, take 5 3rd graders from one neighborhood and 3 2nd graders from another?