New Boundaries Announced

[jwh]

southsidemom said:

The community will have another opportunity to have a voice....it is called the next referendum. I hope that we don't allow ourselves to be hoodwinked once again. Not out of the realm of reason that MV may not have any faculty in the building if tensions continue to rise. And I think that they are just beginning. Rather unfortunate.

Any new referendum will be for funding all 3 schools, not just MV. MV will have faculty pulled from WV and NV before startup. MV is not a separate entity from the others. (okay, I set you all up for jokes on that one since its so so far away...)

[southsidemom]

concerned said:

Steckmom, you are absolutely right!! We all need to come together and let the SB know that these boundaries are not good for the WHOLE district. I can't believe what they did to Peterson. It is soooooo political and soooo wrong to be that mad at Macom to screw with kids education. I believe that is as low as this administration can go. We need to show up big at the meeting.

I too agree. I am obviously upset with my own scenario but my heart goes out to many of the children that will have to be at the bus stop at 6:30 am, oh and with a new group of children they did not share a middle school with, or maybe ia a new driver and is worried to death that he/she is late for school because they must wait for the train lights to finish blinking, and I could go on. I can only hope that the SB will not vote next week and really revisit this.

[southsidemom]

jwh said:

southsidemom said:

The community will have another opportunity to have a voice....it is called the next referendum. I hope that we don't allow ourselves to be hoodwinked once again. Not out of the realm of reason that MV may not have any faculty in the building if tensions continue to rise. And I think that they are just beginning. Rather unfortunate.

Any new referendum will be for funding all 3 schools, not just MV. MV will have faculty pulled from WV and NV before startup. MV is not a separate entity from the others. (okay, I set you all up for jokes on that one since its so so far away...)

I realize that but they still need that referendum to pass in order to operate 3 high schools. District is going to need more money and I don't know about you but right now I would not vote to give one penny. Trust is gone. Thanks for clarifying though.

[doctorwho]

steckmom said:

It's almost like the SB was reading this message board and gave everyone at risk in the boundary decision exactly what they didn't want.

Okay, you there at Tall Grass, next to NV, forget it. Since you complained about WV since your so close to NV, go far away to WV.

And you, in Ashwood, well, since you complained about WV and since you're associated with Macom, you get the crazy splits and a commute.

As for you in Owen, Watts, since distance is such an issue for you, check this out--you get the farthest commute there is.

Of course we can't forget the Steck area, willing to take a hit and commute for achievement balance, you get to go to school with 3 of the 4 lowest performing schools. (Though, I'm okay with that, I did harp on achievement balance.)

I'm sure I'm forgetting many.

I can't believe I'm going to say this, because I really want WV...but now that people have taken some time to see how bad these boundaries are, I wonder if we as a group from all of these areas could come up with a true and mature compromise. Not pitting neighborhood against neighborhood, but really looking at what is best for the district. Is pain for everyone really the best solution? If we could, and rally some support within our neighborhoods, do you think the SB would listen?

At this point, we're stuck with the site, we're stuck with these boundaries. I doubt they're going to change anything if the boundary comments go the way they did last time. But if some sort of united group could be established, maybe they would listen.

I'm probably crazy, but seriously, so much about these boundaries just doesn't make sense. It's like they didn't know what 'maximize' and 'minimize' meant.

The sound you're hearing is me standing on my chair an applauding ! I know you love WV just like we do here and to even make that gesture tells me why I tell everyone that will isten - once a Warrior- always a Warrior. Unfortunately we have little control over what happens here any more-

As upset and sad as I am by being thrown out of WV - I am glad people like you are still there. Take care of the place - I know my family will miss it terribly. And unfortunately my youngest will never get the pleasure to be there... something I will never forget or forgive for.

[WeBe204]

doctorwho said:

steckmom said:

It's almost like the SB was reading this message board and gave everyone at risk in the boundary decision exactly what they didn't want.

Okay, you there at Tall Grass, next to NV, forget it. Since you complained about WV since your so close to NV, go far away to WV.

And you, in Ashwood, well, since you complained about WV and since you're associated with Macom, you get the crazy splits and a commute.

As for you in Owen, Watts, since distance is such an issue for you, check this out--you get the farthest commute there is.

Of course we can't forget the Steck area, willing to take a hit and commute for achievement balance, you get to go to school with 3 of the 4 lowest performing schools. (Though, I'm okay with that, I did harp on achievement balance.)

I'm sure I'm forgetting many.

I can't believe I'm going to say this, because I really want WV...but now that people have taken some time to see how bad these boundaries are, I wonder if we as a group from all of these areas could come up with a true and mature compromise. Not pitting neighborhood against neighborhood, but really looking at what is best for the district. Is pain for everyone really the best solution? If we could, and rally some support within our neighborhoods, do you think the SB would listen?

At this point, we're stuck with the site, we're stuck with these boundaries. I doubt they're going to change anything if the boundary comments go the way they did last time. But if some sort of united group could be established, maybe they would listen.

I'm probably crazy, but seriously, so much about these boundaries just doesn't make sense. It's like they didn't know what 'maximize' and 'minimize' meant.

The sound you're hearing is me standing on my chair an applauding ! I know you love WV just like we do here and to even make that gesture tells me why I tell everyone that will isten - once a Warrior- always a Warrior. Unfortunately we have little control over what happens here any more-

As upset and sad as I am by being thrown out of WV - I am glad people like you are still there. Take care of the place - I know my family will miss it terribly. And unfortunately my youngest will never get the pleasure to be there... something I will never forget or forgive for.

Steckmom, I would agree I love the sentiment. I just can not see it happen. Those that are happy with the boundaries out number those that are not.

And the funny thing is I had a little warrior flag ready to put on my mail box so I would be ready for the announcement. I figured it would show some solidarity. I was fairly certain that west of 59 would get put at WVHS and we would all go to schullen or chrone. And I was fine with that reality.

I was absolutely not prepared for what I saw on the map. And I will never be able to accept it. Never! And again it does not really matter what the few think... it's all about the many.

[jwh]

doctorwho said:

steckmom said:

It's almost like the SB was reading this message board and gave everyone at risk in the boundary decision exactly what they didn't want.

Okay, you there at Tall Grass, next to NV, forget it. Since you complained about WV since your so close to NV, go far away to WV.

And you, in Ashwood, well, since you complained about WV and since you're associated with Macom, you get the crazy splits and a commute.

As for you in Owen, Watts, since distance is such an issue for you, check this out--you get the farthest commute there is.

Of course we can't forget the Steck area, willing to take a hit and commute for achievement balance, you get to go to school with 3 of the 4 lowest performing schools. (Though, I'm okay with that, I did harp on achievement balance.)

I'm sure I'm forgetting many.

I can't believe I'm going to say this, because I really want WV...but now that people have taken some time to see how bad these boundaries are, I wonder if we as a group from all of these areas could come up with a true and mature compromise. Not pitting neighborhood against neighborhood, but really looking at what is best for the district. Is pain for everyone really the best solution? If we could, and rally some support within our neighborhoods, do you think the SB would listen?

At this point, we're stuck with the site, we're stuck with these boundaries. I doubt they're going to change anything if the boundary comments go the way they did last time. But if some sort of united group could be established, maybe they would listen.

I'm probably crazy, but seriously, so much about these boundaries just doesn't make sense. It's like they didn't know what 'maximize' and 'minimize' meant.

The sound you're hearing is me standing on my chair an applauding ! I know you love WV just like we do here and to even make that gesture tells me why I tell everyone that will isten - once a Warrior- always a Warrior. Unfortunately we have little control over what happens here any more-

As upset and sad as I am by being thrown out of WV - I am glad people like you are still there. Take care of the place - I know my family will miss it terribly. And unfortunately my youngest will never get the pleasure to be there... something I will never forget or forgive for.

Your youngest one may have an even better experience at Metea. It's all what we make of it.

[rew]

I wonder if the ES assignments are still coming. With ADK for fall, there are changes coming. There are too many schools that have NO ROOM.

Just my guess but I suspect, ie that Welch may be shipping kids off to Owen or White Eagle. People who think they are unaffected and support the current plan, may be in for a big surprise before MV opens.

If you look at some of the enrollments, you can see the writing is on the wall...stay tuned

[doctorwho]

jwh said:

doctorwho said:

The sound you're hearing is me standing on my chair an applauding ! I know you love WV just like we do here and to even make that gesture tells me why I tell everyone that will isten - once a Warrior- always a Warrior. Unfortunately we have little control over what happens here any more-

As upset and sad as I am by being thrown out of WV - I am glad people like you are still there. Take care of the place - I know my family will miss it terribly. And unfortunately my youngest will never get the pleasure to be there... something I will never forget or forgive for.

Your youngest one may have an even better experience at Metea. It's all what we make of it.

youngest is an athlete like my oldest - playing 1 yr at WVHS then not having a varsity program will suck - no matter how you look at it. Yes that was any new location - but 1/ her heart has been set on being a Warrior since she was little and watching her sibling play, 2/ no one wants to travel that distance - not us, not her.

Now many of her closest friends here looking for ways out ( some already found them - some will move) - and her closest club friends will be Warriors ( from Fry and WE ) -

I appreciate the positive spin, I hope it works better for others, but the shoe doesn't fit in this case.

[rew]

jwh...if it's all "what we make of it" why did Brookdale vote 80% NO?

[doctorwho]

rew said:

I wonder if the ES assignments are still coming. With ADK for fall, there are changes coming. There are too many schools that have NO ROOM.

Just my guess but I suspect, ie that Welch may be shipping kids off to Owen or White Eagle. People who think they are unaffected and support the current plan, may be in for a big surprise before MV opens.

If you look at some of the enrollments, you can see the writing is on the wall...stay tuned

I could be wrong ( and likely am on this one) but there were already ES tweaks announced. Like sending kids from Longwood to May Watts so that we have 3 satellites now -- so could be those are it for tweaks. I am guessing the LW to Watts move was to make more room for the ADK program already at LW so they don't continue to have to have so many programs on a cart.

[steckmom]

brad204 said:

doctorwho said:

The sound you're hearing is me standing on my chair an applauding ! I know you love WV just like we do here and to even make that gesture tells me why I tell everyone that will isten - once a Warrior- always a Warrior. Unfortunately we have little control over what happens here any more-

As upset and sad as I am by being thrown out of WV - I am glad people like you are still there. Take care of the place - I know my family will miss it terribly. And unfortunately my youngest will never get the pleasure to be there... something I will never forget or forgive for.

Steckmom, I would agree I love the sentiment. I just can not see it happen. Those that are happy with the boundaries out number those that are not.

And the funny thing is I had a little warrior flag ready to put on my mail box so I would be ready for the announcement. I figured it would show some solidarity. I was fairly certain that west of 59 would get put at WVHS and we would all go to schullen or chrone. And I was fine with that reality.

I was absolutely not prepared for what I saw on the map. And I will never be able to accept it. Never! And again it does not really matter what the few think... it's all about the many.

I really meant it as more than a gesture. I do think that many are happy with the boundaries, but I think most of those are people who wouldn't be affected much either way. What if we could somehow convince those people not to give positive feedback?

I don't know, I guess I'd just like to see the district have a chance to heal. I don't think these splits and commutes are going to help 204 improve at all.

My other corny idea is to have people show up at the meeting dressed in a particular color. I know it's been done, but not by people from all over the district from many different neighborhoods. And all these people say the same thing: their neighborhood, that these boundaries don't make sense for the district as a WHOLE, and why. No attacks.

And we would still have to convince those that aren't affected by the changes (and aren't likely to be affected) to not make positive comments about the boundaries.

I might be wrong, but what if I'm not?

[brooksmom]

I really meant it as more than a gesture. I do think that many are happy with the boundaries, but I think most of those are people who wouldn't be affected much either way. What if we could somehow convince those people not to give positive feedback?

I don't know, I guess I'd just like to see the district have a chance to heal. I don't think these splits and commutes are going to help 204 improve at all.

My other corny idea is to have people show up at the meeting dressed in a particular color. I know it's been done, but not by people from all over the district from many different neighborhoods. And all these people say the same thing: their neighborhood, that these boundaries don't make sense for the district as a WHOLE, and why. No attacks.

And we would still have to convince those that aren't affected by the changes (and aren't likely to be affected) to not make positive comments about the boundaries.

I might be wrong, but what if I'm not?[/quote]

Steckmom, I am not in any way impacted by the boundary changes except to have a shiny new school fall in my lap, and I don't think these boundaries are great. I would be willing to support your solidarity effort, but I think the problem will come when you have to support an alternative. If this boundary plan stinks, then you need to show a better one. Someone will get screwed under any option, so how do we all rally around one solution? No one wants their neighborhood to take one for the team like Brookdale was being forced to before and like Peterson and Owen are now.

[jwh]

rew said:

jwh...if it's all "what we make of it" why did Brookdale vote 80% NO?

REW, how people voted isn't at issue. It's how they react.

[steckmom]

brooksmom said:

Steckmom, I am not in any way impacted by the boundary changes except to have a shiny new school fall in my lap, and I don't think these boundaries are great. I would be willing to support your solidarity effort, but I think the problem will come when you have to support an alternative. If this boundary plan stinks, then you need to show a better one. Someone will get screwed under any option, so how do we all rally around one solution? No one wants their neighborhood to take one for the team like Brookdale was being forced to before and like Peterson and Owen are now.

I'm sure you're right that no area would be willing to take a bad compromise. But I think the district could do better than this if they gave it a second shot and provided options for comment.

The thing is, does Owen have to take one for the team? Would Steck or McCarty be willing to move? Does Peterson? Is there another area would be willing change so they could at least not have a split MS? We don't know because we're getting these boundaries forced on us without any real public input.

[Arch]

jwh said:

rew said:

jwh...if it's all "what we make of it" why did Brookdale vote 80% NO?

REW, how people voted isn't at issue. It's how they react.

Yes, and we all got a good look at that on the Jan 22 SB meeting video.