MV Principal Announced

[rural]

researching said:

204family said:

Rural,
I think you're the one with the chip on your shoulder regarding Aurora and Naperville. I look at it as a case of the have vs. the haves. It's really kind of funny.

The chip part I can understand ;D These responses just highlight the obvious division in our district and it doesn't seem to be a South Naperville / North Naperville thing. It is turning into something even uglier.

rural, why the obsession with 203? It smacks of sour grapes and reminds me of a certain "buhhhbye" comment someone else made.

The only chips I have are salt and vinegar.

I think Naperville has come a long way from the farmtown it was 30 years ago. I'm just trying to highlight the fact that if Naperville is what you want, then you should live in 203. Otherwise, accept the fact that 204 is a hodgepodge of many different villages/town/city.

[moneypit]

wvhsparent said:

OK this will a little nudge back to the principle of the Metea.

I was part of his Principle's advisory Committee at WVHS. From that interaction, he is a man who has a plan. He is willing to listen to new ideas, and is not afraid to try.
I like your idea doc of the principle from WVHS gold moving up to green. How's the NVHS Gold's Principle?

His name is Mark Truckenbrod. His is young, energetic, and cares about the kids. I was very impressed the summer we moved here in 2004 when he took the time to take our family through the campus and address all of our questions and concerns. He is definitely a straight shooter, telling like it is. I personally think he would do a good job at either one of the main campuses. For what its worth, we chose the house we did due to its location and proximity to that school campus and facilities. All for naught now - very disappointing. From the whatever its worth department.

[d204mom]

rural said:

researching said:

The chip part I can understand ;D These responses just highlight the obvious division in our district and it doesn't seem to be a South Naperville / North Naperville thing. It is turning into something even uglier.

rural, why the obsession with 203? It smacks of sour grapes and reminds me of a certain "buhhhbye" comment someone else made.

The only chips I have are salt and vinegar.

I think Naperville has come a long way from the farmtown it was 30 years ago. I'm just trying to highlight the fact that if Naperville is what you want, then you should live in 203. Otherwise, accept the fact that 204 is a hodgepodge of many different villages/town/city.

Sorry to disappoint, but D203 is not just Naperville either.

[rural]

d204mom said:

Sorry to disappoint, but D203 is not just Naperville either.

See, shows you what I know.

Apparently, there is no safe haven for Napervillians--wait we don't like that term--Napesters (?) wanting their own island.

[rural]

I apologize for the deviation. In the future, I will try harder not to be baited into a subject change. Please, let's return to our thread topic of MV principal.

[d204mom]

204family said:

warriorpride said:

I'd be interested to know what you mean by this

Just got back from Preschool p/u...I think you know what I meant by it, but I'll go ahead and throw gasoline on the fire.

Naperville has a great reputation for building great schools. When people aren't from the area and are looking at only objective facts like test scores and listings on the "best places to live" listings, Naperville is a name that they can recognize. The fact is that this area attracts alot of out of towners.
I think our school district could've capitalized on that by building another school in naperville. I think they missed an opportunity to get some equity for the school before it was even built. Kind of like the equity that NV generated.

Go ahead, attack.

Not an attack, but Metzger has already answered why due diligence was not performed on any other sites. From the 1/22 meeting 2:16:05

"that's what gives me pause about looking at places like the Hammond site and the Macom site. I'm certainly appreciative of some of the opportunities that were there but from a 30 thousand foot point of view what we would be required to do with boundaries - the number of people we would need to displace to make those things work - among other things creates a Waubonsie that becomes an albatross around everybody's neck - it becomes the one thing that none of us want to see happen."

[moneypit]

d204mom said:

204family said:

Just got back from Preschool p/u...I think you know what I meant by it, but I'll go ahead and throw gasoline on the fire.

Naperville has a great reputation for building great schools. When people aren't from the area and are looking at only objective facts like test scores and listings on the "best places to live" listings, Naperville is a name that they can recognize. The fact is that this area attracts alot of out of towners.
I think our school district could've capitalized on that by building another school in naperville. I think they missed an opportunity to get some equity for the school before it was even built. Kind of like the equity that NV generated.

Go ahead, attack.

Not an attack, but Metzger has already answered why due diligence was not performed on any other sites. From the 1/22 meeting 2:16:05

"that's what gives me pause about looking at places like the Hammond site and the Macom site. I'm certainly appreciative of some of the opportunities that were there but from a 30 thousand foot point of view what we would be required to do with boundaries - the number of people we would need to displace to make those things work - among other things creates a Waubonsie that becomes an albatross around everybody's neck - it becomes the one thing that none of us want to see happen."

Can anyone (better yet, him) explain what he meant by his last comment?

[mandmmom]

moneypit said:

d204mom said:

Not an attack, but Metzger has already answered why due diligence was not performed on any other sites. From the 1/22 meeting 2:16:05

"that's what gives me pause about looking at places like the Hammond site and the Macom site. I'm certainly appreciative of some of the opportunities that were there but from a 30 thousand foot point of view what we would be required to do with boundaries - the number of people we would need to displace to make those things work - among other things creates a Waubonsie that becomes an albatross around everybody's neck - it becomes the one thing that none of us want to see happen."

Can anyone (better yet, him) explain what he meant by his last comment?

Why say that in public....another example of not being an effective leader.....really not an appropriate comment (IMO)

[macy]

The funniest part of that comment by Metzger is:

"from a 30 thousand foot point of view what we would be required to do with boundaries - the number of people we would need to displace to make those things work."

Huh? As if the number of people being displaced with MIDWGEN site is substantially less than it would have been at Macom.

Its that type of ridiculous rhetoric that makes me angry even when I try as hard as I can to move on.

[macy]

moneypit said:

wvhsparent said:

OK this will a little nudge back to the principle of the Metea.

I was part of his Principle's advisory Committee at WVHS. From that interaction, he is a man who has a plan. He is willing to listen to new ideas, and is not afraid to try.
I like your idea doc of the principle from WVHS gold moving up to green. How's the NVHS Gold's Principle?

His name is Mark Truckenbrod. His is young, energetic, and cares about the kids. I was very impressed the summer we moved here in 2004 when he took the time to take our family through the campus and address all of our questions and concerns. He is definitely a straight shooter, telling like it is. I personally think he would do a good job at either one of the main campuses. For what its worth, we chose the house we did due to its location and proximity to that school campus and facilities. All for naught now - very disappointing. From the whatever its worth department.

Mark Truckenbrod is a great guy. I agree with all the above. I've had the pleasure of interacting with him on a multitude of different things I've been involved with at NVHS.

He'd make a great Principal at any high school. I hope he's chosen for either WVHS or NVHS as the head honcho.

[fence]

Because for some reason, people are not interested in saying it, I will. He meant that if a southern site were chosen, our south and east central areas would either go to MV or NV. There is a significant part of the remaining area that has ES achievement problems. If they attended WV without balance of higher performance areas, WV would be, in fact, an "albatross."

I do believe that he's right that this would likely happen, but picking a northern site to force equity seems a little socialist. If I may.

The actual solution would be to figure out how to best create an environment where struggling kids can perform. Now I know that to a degree they're trying to do that, and scores are incrimentally improving. But that effort needs to be able to stand on its own. Things are what they are - why act like that's some big secret?

You can't pick a site and move people around in the hopes of "inventing" equality and balance. You're just cooking the proverbial books and it helps no one.

Well, I guess you can. As it turns out. But that's alot of ego to think that their role is to save the district.

moneypit said:

d204mom said:

Not an attack, but Metzger has already answered why due diligence was not performed on any other sites. From the 1/22 meeting 2:16:05

"that's what gives me pause about looking at places like the Hammond site and the Macom site. I'm certainly appreciative of some of the opportunities that were there but from a 30 thousand foot point of view what we would be required to do with boundaries - the number of people we would need to displace to make those things work - among other things creates a Waubonsie that becomes an albatross around everybody's neck - it becomes the one thing that none of us want to see happen."

Can anyone (better yet, him) explain what he meant by his last comment?

[sushi]

I heard today that another possible candidate for new principal is Lance Fuhrer. He is head of the English Department at NV; he was also WE swimteam coach for a long time. He would make a great principal as well. I have never met Truckenbrod.

[steckmom]

fence said:

Because for some reason, people are not interested in saying it, I will. He meant that if a southern site were chosen, our south and east central areas would either go to MV or NV. There is a significant part of the remaining area that has ES achievement problems. If they attended WV without balance of higher performance areas, WV would be, in fact, an "albatross."

That is what he meant. What I find interesting is at the 2/19 meeting MM said that people's concerns with the lower performing schools were not an issue. Then Dash jumped in noting that the data showed that students will perform at the same level regardless of other students performance. Achievement balance is no longer an issue apparently, so what's the rush with the North site?

I don't get it. Am I missing something?

[Arch]

They talk in circles and forget to keep track of what they have said prior.
Ruled by emotion, it seems.

[macy]

sushi said:

I heard today that another possible candidate for new principal is Lance Fuhrer. He is head of the English Department at NV; he was also WE swimteam coach for a long time. He would make a great principal as well. I have never met Truckenbrod.

Sushi,

Clarify, Lance is up for Principal at WVHS or NVHS, please tell.

I LOVE him!!! Fantastic guy!!! He is the master of promoting school spirit. I would jump up and down in glee if he was named Principal of WVHS.

He's the man for WVHS. WOW! I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

I'm sorta excited if he's in line for WVHS. He's perfect for the job.

If he's chosen, look out for the "Green Rush". LOL! He's a genious when it comes to enhancing school spirit and pride. I'd be so happy if he was chosen as Principal of WVHS.