NSFOC Fraud Website

[sushi]

fryfox said:

rural said:

Cmon, have a sense of humor
Hey, I laughed about the home and away uniforms for MVHS sports teams.

Sorry, no humor left for Sushi.

WTH did I do?

[fryfox]

sushi said:

fryfox said:

Sorry, no humor left for Sushi.

WTH did I do?

I'm just tired of you slamming TG and WE - everyone hates WV - no one concerned about the environmental issues is in this group - no one concerned about all the problems to come with the location of this site. I recognize that you're angry with the lawsuit but you don't even consider people's real motivations. You label entire groups. Sorry, it seems to be most of what I see on your posts.

[jwh]

fryfox said:

sushi said:

WTH did I do?

I'm just tired of you slamming TG and WE - everyone hates WV - no one concerned about the environmental issues is in this group - no one concerned about all the problems to come with the location of this site. I recognize that you're angry with the lawsuit but you don't even consider people's real motivations. You label entire groups. Sorry, it seems to be most of what I see on your posts.

Sorry, but I think Sushi is trying to find what individuals real aspirations (whether NSFOC/lawsuit/otherwise) are. I read the 19 pages again, and come back to "Where's the Beef?" All I see in the background is Boundaries. Which hopefully is what will stop it in it's tracks.

[sleeplessinnpvl]

fryfox said:

sushi said:

WTH did I do?

I'm just tired of you slamming TG and WE - everyone hates WV - no one concerned about the environmental issues is in this group - no one concerned about all the problems to come with the location of this site. I recognize that you're angry with the lawsuit but you don't even consider people's real motivations. You label entire groups. Sorry, it seems to be most of what I see on your posts.

People tend to generalize when you don't know much about the people in the group. This is a tough one as I am guessing it is made up of people with legit concerns, people that are mad about the boundaries, people that are mad at the SB, people that want the 3rd HS to go away. There is quite the mix of people. And that's what I see with this group. Their website is all over the map too. That's what aggravates me as I don't really know what their true motives are...or at least the motives of the ones that are controlling the lawsuit.

[sushi]

Also, Fryfox, I live in WE. I am, however, ashamed by some of my neighbors actions and attitudes.

I am also concerned about the safety of the site and wish it was another location. But have said many times, this is the site we can afford, if it is deemed safe, we need a third HS.

[fryfox]

I think I got a little too worked up - I'm removing myself for the night and deleted some of my comments. Have a good night, everyone.

[Arch]

sushi said:

Also, Fryfox, I live in WE. I am, however, ashamed by some of my neighbors actions and attitudes.

I am also concerned about the safety of the site and wish it was another location. But have said many times, this is the site we can afford, if it is deemed safe, we need a third HS.

It's the criteria or lack thereof with how it's deemed 'safe' that concerns me. I'm still not convinced we can even afford it given the BB suit still pending as well as the sale of the 25 acres being counted as 'funds'. Anyone check the real estate market lately?

If we're going to have to go back to the taxpayers for even a dime, might as well suck it up and buy the better place and make all of the future issues be GONE for good.

[rural]

archwinsome said:

It's the criteria or lack thereof with how it's deemed 'safe' that concerns me. I'm still not convinced we can even afford it given the BB suit still pending as well as the sale of the 25 acres being counted as 'funds'. Anyone check the real estate market lately?

If we're going to have to go back to the taxpayers for even a dime, might as well suck it up and buy the better place and make all of the future issues be GONE for good.

Arch, BB is DOA, but you keep massaging it . I'm telling you, I'm going to have that button made up for you, or maybe bumper stickers.

Keep the Dream Alive! Brach-Brodie 2010

[chicoryowl]

archwinsome said:

sushi said:

Also, Fryfox, I live in WE. I am, however, ashamed by some of my neighbors actions and attitudes.

I am also concerned about the safety of the site and wish it was another location. But have said many times, this is the site we can afford, if it is deemed safe, we need a third HS.

It's the criteria or lack thereof with how it's deemed 'safe' that concerns me. I'm still not convinced we can even afford it given the BB suit still pending as well as the sale of the 25 acres being counted as 'funds'. Anyone check the real estate market lately?

If we're going to have to go back to the taxpayers for even a dime, might as well suck it up and buy the better place and make all of the future issues be GONE for good.

I agree that counting on money from the sale of the 25 acres could be considered questionable. Theoretically, BB can buy it back. If they choose not to, will we keep it or sell it. If we sell it, who buys...in this market?

We'll know more shortly. Won't the BB damages suit start shortly?

[rural]

chicoryowl said:

I agree that counting on money from the sale of the 25 acres could be considered questionable. Theoretically, BB can buy it back. If they choose not to, will we keep it or sell it. If we sell it, who buys...in this market?

We'll know more shortly. Won't the BB damages suit start shortly?

Commercial RE is not in a slump, it's the housing market. BB would be stupid not to buy the property back at the same price they sold it for since the adjacent property is worth 500k and acre now

[chicoryowl]

rural said:

chicoryowl said:

I agree that counting on money from the sale of the 25 acres could be considered questionable. Theoretically, BB can buy it back. If they choose not to, will we keep it or sell it. If we sell it, who buys...in this market?

We'll know more shortly. Won't the BB damages suit start shortly?

Commercial RE is not in a slump, it's the housing market. BB would be stupid not to buy the property back at the same price they sold it for since the adjacent property is worth 500k and acre now

Of course, the property the District owns is zoned residential and not commercial...like the adjacent property.

[rural]

They have good lawyers, they can get it rezoned. ;D

[chicoryowl]

rural said:

They have good lawyers, they can get it rezoned. ;D

They do have good lawyers...or at least better than ours.

[rural]

I picked this out of the potluck blog. I found his last comment interesting. In the beginning he's talking about the refinancing of the bonds for the referendum to give the perception of a lower tax payment:

Personally I would never refinance anything from 15 to 40 years just for a lower payment becayse I recognize that long term I would be paying more. That wasn't the issue I was raising. The basis of the lawsuit, according to the posts supporting the lawsuit states that the ONLY reason it passed the second time was the inclusion of the boundaries in the literature (not the referendum itself). What I am saying is there are other issues including the lowering of the property taxes. In the short term, that is/was in my best interest since I expect to relocate long before the first 15 years would have expired. At the time of the vote, the real estate market was hot and I bet there were others who wanted to reflect lower property taxes in order to make selling their houses attractive to new buyers. I am sure that some people voted yes because having less crowded high schools would be attractive to new people buying homes in the area. That helps the resale of existing homes.

I am curious to know how the lawyer is going to prove the intent of every voter.

[d204mom]

chicoryowl said:

rural said:

Commercial RE is not in a slump, it's the housing market. BB would be stupid not to buy the property back at the same price they sold it for since the adjacent property is worth 500k and acre now

Of course, the property the District owns is zoned residential and not commercial...like the adjacent property.

Is it true that the PREIT deal is on hold/dead - it's off their website.