Disappointment

[sushi]

justvote said:

I agree that the Fry community should pick the battles that they could possibly win. Let's face it, the bridge argument became mitigated when the Administration stated in no uncertain terms that the bridge does not make any student within the Fry community a walker (in the eyes of the District). I have alot of compassion for your community, and I understand that you want to go to the closest school, but unfortunately the lousy location of the new school prohibits that from happening.

I don't agree that moving Welch is the answer. Well over half of the community are real walkers (no bus service is offered). They are truly "across the street from Neuqua". I'm sorry, but saying that TG is across the street from NV is a major stretch.

Come together as a community and work on minimizing the MS splits in your area. I know it's not what you ultimately want, but it just might be a battle that you can win.

One more thing. I have talked with friends from the TG community and there are those families that are fine with going to Waubonsie. One stated that she truly did not care where her daughters went to high school, and that she was tired of the "vocal people" giving her community a bad name. I know it's anecdotal, but I do wonder how many others feel as she does.

Amen.

[lacy]

sushi said:

Lacy, it is not about me and you and where our houses are. The WE ATTENDANCE area butts up to 95th just like TG. By the way, Kentaco is on the west side (aka - Taco Bell) no bridge necessary.

WE does not butt up to 95th.

And I still bet you have a long walk to Kentaco - I don't.

Trying to say we're all the same is simply not true from a geographical standpoint.

[bob]

Kentaco

What is this?

[sleeplessinnpvl]

rew said:

Slplss, In the changes I actually, hauled all of McCarty for Owen and Gombert (numbers work) And all of Steck for May Watts (actually Steck is larger number, probably not as clean).

I don't like splitting ESs especially small numbers off, and I don't think moving walkers is the worst thing in the world, espoecially walkers crossing a busy intersection like Eola and Ogden.

My point again though is if McCarty was upset with this move than the SB is faced with "do we p off McCty to make Owen/Gombert happy".

Wheras if McCarty is OK with this, then it's a win win and the change can happen.

That is why I am asking, who's happy and who's not with each proposed change?

Thanks for clarifying. I can't see how hauling these walkers to a closer school is more expensive than providing all these busses to Owen/Watts etc. I think it would be a wash.

[sushi]

Kentucky Fried Chicken/Taco Bell combined in one restaurant. The kids coined it. Clever, no?

The WE (get this right) ATTENDANCE area butts up to 95th. I know just where WE is, believe me.

[bob]

sushi said:

Kentucky Fried Chicken/Taco Bell combined in one restaurant. The kids coined it. Clever, no?

The WE (get this right) ATTENDANCE area butts up to 95th. I know just where WE is, believe me.

Lol. I guess Tacoucky wouldn't be good from a marketing stand point.

[sushi]

confused said:

sushi said:

Confused, I think we are past the debate over whether we need a new HS or not. The quality of education goes way down in an overcrowded situation; maybe not for the bright kids, but the mainstream are lost in the shuffle. It has nothing to do with being resilient. Where, oh where is Topher's horse???

I was being sarcastic because I do believe we need a third high school and I do believe that splits are not good for kids. Some people move around a lot and their kids are o.k. and they would say kids are resilient. Of course they're o.k., but I choose not to move - I want my kids to grow up in the same neighborhood and build on friendships and relationships and build and build into high school. I think it gives them a sense of security and I think it's ideal and should be the standard. There are options available to the district with no splits, yet they choose not to take them.

"Kids are resilient" is a way to diminish something that's important to someone else. We try to make choices for our families based on things that are of value to us. So when these communities are facing these splits and it's not what they wanted for their families, it doesn't matter whether someone else thinks their kids will be o.k. or not.

What solution are you talking about with no splits? Topher, are you there??

[WeBe204]

sleeplessinnpvl said:

brad204 said:

A cleaner middle school situation could also be created by letting go of NVHS and doing what I thought the admin will do. That was make all of west of 59 part of WVHS. Again, the other 2/3rds of the Pet split I am sure would be dead silent on that option I am sure I would be too in their shoes.

Brad, You're right, I don't know what their thoughts are on this. That makes it hard for Ashwood Park to be united with anyone. You are truly alone and sad, that's for sure.

Based on their lack of posting recently I think some of their reaction can be reasoned. I do not blame them. We were set-up for this separation by the administration. We have been pitted against each other. I hold no hard feeling toward them. I will not fall into that trap. This is the admins fault not the Ashwood Creek's, Century Terrace's or Tamrack's fault.

I would like to ask WE and TG how they would feel if the lines were drawn down the middle of their sub-divisions to make numbers work? Talk to me about split sub-division instead of split MS or talk to me about 3-way split ES?

[lacy]

justvote said:

I agree that the Fry community should pick the battles that they could possibly win. Let's face it, the bridge argument became mitigated when the Administration stated in no uncertain terms that the bridge does not make any student within the Fry community a walker (in the eyes of the District). I have alot of compassion for your community, and I understand that you want to go to the closest school, but unfortunately the lousy location of the new school prohibits that from happening.

I don't agree that moving Welch is the answer. Well over half of the community are real walkers (no bus service is offered). They are truly "across the street from Neuqua". I'm sorry, but saying that TG is across the street from NV is a major stretch.

Come together as a community and work on minimizing the MS splits in your area. I know it's not what you ultimately want, but it just might be a battle that you can win.

One more thing. I have talked with friends from the TG community and there are those families that are fine with going to Waubonsie. One stated that she truly did not care where her daughters went to high school, and that she was tired of the "vocal people" giving her community a bad name. I know it's anecdotal, but I do wonder how many others feel as she does.

First of all, no one is "giving anyone a bad name". That's old spin that won't work anymore.

Secondly, judging by my in box and meetings I'm aware of, a large percentage of the community is engaged.

Thirdly, it's not about "not wanting to go to WVHS". You're missing the point.

Lastly, we are coming together. Thank you. But are concerns are not limited to the middle school splits.

[lacy]

sushi said:

Kentucky Fried Chicken/Taco Bell combined in one restaurant. The kids coined it. Clever, no?

The WE (get this right) ATTENDANCE area butts up to 95th. I know just where WE is, believe me.

The majority of your area lies much farther from NVHS and much closer to WVHS than TG.

Period.

[slp]

sushi said:

justvote said:

I agree that the Fry community should pick the battles that they could possibly win. Let's face it, the bridge argument became mitigated when the Administration stated in no uncertain terms that the bridge does not make any student within the Fry community a walker (in the eyes of the District). I have alot of compassion for your community, and I understand that you want to go to the closest school, but unfortunately the lousy location of the new school prohibits that from happening.

I don't agree that moving Welch is the answer. Well over half of the community are real walkers (no bus service is offered). They are truly "across the street from Neuqua". I'm sorry, but saying that TG is across the street from NV is a major stretch.

Come together as a community and work on minimizing the MS splits in your area. I know it's not what you ultimately want, but it just might be a battle that you can win.

One more thing. I have talked with friends from the TG community and there are those families that are fine with going to Waubonsie. One stated that she truly did not care where her daughters went to high school, and that she was tired of the "vocal people" giving her community a bad name. I know it's anecdotal, but I do wonder how many others feel as she does.

Amen.

I also agree.

I think the battle to pick is the one to eliminate the middle school split ; not the battle to stay at NV.

[slp]

lacy said:

sushi said:

Lacy, it is not about me and you and where our houses are. The WE ATTENDANCE area butts up to 95th just like TG. By the way, Kentaco is on the west side (aka - Taco Bell) no bridge necessary.

WE does not butt up to 95th.

And I still bet you have a long walk to Kentaco - I don't.

Trying to say we're all the same is simply not true from a geographical standpoint.

I think sushi means White Eagle Attendance area (just like you would refer to Fry attendance)

White Eagle attendance absolutely butts to 95th street; it backs up to the new movie theater and they can see NV from their windows too.

Just clarifiying things, not wanting to debate this though. I'll leave that up to you two!

[slp]

lacy said:

sushi said:

Kentucky Fried Chicken/Taco Bell combined in one restaurant. The kids coined it. Clever, no?

The WE (get this right) ATTENDANCE area butts up to 95th. I know just where WE is, believe me.

The majority of your area lies much farther from NVHS and much closer to WVHS than TG.

Period.

What is the point of belaboring this?

All mute points. WE and TG are going to WVHS. Period. Accept it and make it the best it can be!!!

[EagleDad]

gatormom said:

archwinsome said:

Does anyone end up at the furthest HS from their area?

Yeah, half of Gombert but it sure makes others happy, right?

I don't think this splitting of Gombert to send Thatcher's Grove and Blackstone to Metea should make anyone happy.

Send it all, or none. splitting up ES areas whether is is Gombert or Peterson is the worst split in my book. These are kids that learned to tie their shoes together and had sleepovers for 6 years.

[gatormom]

eagledad said:

gatormom said:

Yeah, half of Gombert but it sure makes others happy, right?

I don't think this splitting of Gombert to send Thatcher's Grove and Blackstone to Metea should make anyone happy.

Send it all, or none. splitting up ES areas whether is is Gombert or Peterson is the worst split in my book. These are kids that learned to tie their shoes together and had sleepovers for 6 years.

Split won't happen until high school, try 9 years together.

And I stand by my earlier statement, I would rather see the Petersen split corrected than Gombert's.