Disappointment

[sleeplessinnpvl]

I think it would help us here to know what it is you guys from TG want. I know what Brad wants, poor guy, and hopefully we can somehow help him. But I still don't know what the TG posters on this site want. I know what other people including myself think you should do. But if you could unite here, then maybe the rest of us can help you. I know what Owen and Watts posters want too. So once we are all on the same page, then maybe we can examine rew's proposal and see if it works. And any comments from Steck and McC posters would be helpful too. I know we only respresent a small % of our community but let's turn this board into something productive instead of a place to just complain about how powerless we are and bicker about who is closer to where.

[doctorwho]

confused said:

sleeplessinnpvl said:

You can't eliminate all the bad stuff, just minimize it more. I would say that we really need to call the board on the number of McCArty bussers. rew's plan stems on McCarty (and some of Steck???) going to MV, does it not? I feel the board just thinks that since some are walkers, they all stay. Same with Welch. But the board has shown that ES splits are OK with Petersen, Gombert etc. so why can't they be OK with McCArty and Steck? We need to call them on that.

I agree. I also want to know why they're making Owen and Watts drive so far because they have to keep the "walking" neighborhoods at WV, but they don't apply that same logic when it comes to Fry. By that same logic, Springbrook should be going to Waubonsie instead of Fry. So if they're going to apply moving Fry to WV because they're closer to WV than SB (even though they're also closer to NV than SB) - apply the same logic to McCarty &/or Steck. They're both closer to MV than Owen & Watts.

Hallelujah !!! Exactly right unless there is someother agenda making us travel that far - it seems silly doesn't it ? Not applying criteria evenly is what caused people to think the Admin has other agenda - I want to see an explanation of why this situation occurs.

[EagleDad]

lacy said:

gatormom said:

So your area is being singled out? What about Watts and Owen, furthest HS assignments in the district, Petersen split in thirds, Gombert split in half; is that all part of the plan to "get TG"?

I don't get it. There are a lot of things wrong with this plan but the idea it is picking on any one area is bit hard to grasp when so many are unhappy.

I guess the district has to just step on a lot of toes to "get" TG.

Yes, there are alot of toes. I believe there are more students and parents in this area than any other in the district. And from what I'm seeing and hearing - they are not one bit happy.

I already said that many areas have every right to be unhappy. MW, Owen, etc., so please don't try to imply otherwise.

But riddle me this, Gatormom, why is there a memo at the end of the boundary proposal directed to ONE subdivision?!

To single you out - and it was very, very wrong. I do not blame you one iota for being upset about it and wanting it redressed.

[sushi]

ED, I don't think it is productive to try to guess what the SB motives are or if they're singleling out or "punishing" another community. Sleepless is SO very right. Decide on what is most amicable and present a united front at the meeting Tues.

Lacy, I am sorry to say that TG is getting a bad reputation. It was WE many years ago, for the same reason.

[anteater]

confused said:

Anteater - don't know where you're getting your info. The bridge was not funded by Macom - in fact, Macom fought it in court because they were worried it would obscure the view of their stripmall and adversely affect business.

The design was completely funded by the City of Naperville - the construction is being paid primarily by the state (about 80%) and the City (about 20%).

I stand corrected on the funding. However, I do know that Macom was not opposed to a bridge, and has wanted one all along. The lawsuit was over the design of the bridge - I think they wanted it to have a smaller footprint at either end. I'm not sure where I heard this, but it might be from an argument they made about how they paid impact fees and should therefore be able to dictate the design. My bad.

[Arch]

sushi said:

ED, I don't think it is productive to try to guess what the SB motives are or if they're singleling out or "punishing" another community. Sleepless is SO very right. Decide on what is most amicable and present a united front at the meeting Tues.

Lacy, I am sorry to say that TG is getting a bad reputation. It was WE many years ago, for the same reason.

The memo was meant for no other area, so I would say it was a safe assumption to believe that they were being singled out to stifle an argument. There was no reason to send that out with that packet and there was no reason to send that out to anyone else in any other part of the district because it's not applicable.

[wolverine]

Since both WV and MV are west of 59, and since MV is far north and WV is central, doesn't it make sense that their attendance area will need to be from areas south of the school?

Given that, is there a huge issue with sending the McCarty and Steck bussers north (MV) instead of south (WV)?

I realize you'd split the ES ( McC and Steck walkers would still walk to WV), but isn't a trip straight up Eola easier than a trek from Watts/Owen to MV?

[Arch]

wolverine said:

Since both WV and MV are west of 59, and since MV is far north and WV is central, doesn't it make sense that their attendance area will need to be from areas south of the school?

Given that, is there a huge issue with sending the McCarty and Steck bussers north (MV) instead of south (WV)?

I realize you'd split the ES ( McC and Steck walkers would still walk to WV), but isn't a trip straight up Eola easier than a trek from Watts/Owen to MV?

...and they are still not traveling to the farthest high school.

[steckmom]

I was on the verge of calling everyone on here selfish and getting myself banned (at this point it would be a blessing), until I started reading the last few posts, particularly Gatormom's.

As I've said again and again, I'm okay with MV. And I'm okay with rew's proposal. I'd prefer WV, I'd prefer Granger, I even prefer the SD's proposal (personally) but I can see the reasoning and the fairness. My concerns are the middle school situation where Steck is split, the environmental issues at MV and the fact that WV backs up to our neighborhood. The more I say that I'm okay with it, the more of a sacrifice it becomes. I'm becoming selfish myself.

I'm really tired of the bickering and thinking about the boundaries. I can see WV from my house too. And I even though I can easily walk to WV, the SD provides buses so I have no argument there. My kids want WV, I want WV. But we would deal.

[EagleDad]

brad204 said:

sleeplessinnpvl said:

Brad, You're right, I don't know what their thoughts are on this. That makes it hard for Ashwood Park to be united with anyone. You are truly alone and sad, that's for sure.

Based on their lack of posting recently I think some of their reaction can be reasoned. I do not blame them. We were set-up for this separation by the administration. We have been pitted against each other. I hold no hard feeling toward them. I will not fall into that trap. This is the admins fault not the Ashwood Creek's, Century Terrace's or Tamrack's fault.

I would like to ask WE and TG how they would feel if the lines were drawn down the middle of their sub-divisions to make numbers work? Talk to me about split sub-division instead of split MS or talk to me about 3-way split ES?

Brad there's nothing worse than splitting a subdivion, I'll grant you that. The order of evilness of splits in my book goes:
Subdivision-> Elementary School-> Middle School

subdivision splits are the worst and unneeded.

[sushi]

Who found the youtube bus at the top??? Too funny!

[sushi]

Steckmom, you definately have the right attitude in a very tough situation.

[sushi]

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned today's article in the Sun by Britt Carson. I am challenged and don't know how to post it here.

[EagleDad]

sushi said:

Who found the youtube bus at the top??? Too funny!

Doctorwho did a couple days ago, I just thought I'd add it to the header for everyone's enjoyment.

Put emergency green light overrides on that thing and I think 35 minutes from Bailey and Modaff to MWGen is totally doable!

[EagleDad]

sushi said:

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned today's article in the Sun by Britt Carson. I am challenged and don't know how to post it here.

Why, did Britt get a new Hairdoo???