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Post by sleeplessinnpvl on Feb 14, 2008 17:37:23 GMT -6
Maybe it's a solution that makes more sense and significantly reduces splits. There is a way to minimize splits that the district doesn't seem to care about. I really don't understand why they don't care. Maybe because they have a personal agenda in the South? maybe it's easier to keep the three areas you've already upset as the ones still upset. At least you keep the rest of the areas happy and maybe they'll continue to vote for you? I think it is because they can argue that areas like WE and Fry were probably going to travel a similar distance to MV @ BB and they may even have encountered split middle schools there. Did anyone really know where we were going to MS in the last boundary proposal??? Anyway, the board probably thought that "hey, WE and Fry were very supportive of the boundary proposal in 2006,even though they knew they were leaving NV and maybe facing a split MS. So maybe they will be OK with this new proposal?" I guess only the board knows. Maybe they will justify their actions at the meeting. |
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Post by forthekids on Feb 14, 2008 17:37:37 GMT -6
You missed the key word - WELCH could go to WV. Fry would go to NV. Let's throw another subdivision under the bus to save our own, shall we? Why is it that whenever someone makes an alternate suggestion that alleviates a problem, it's them "throwing someone under the bus?" Aren't the initial schools in the current recommendation already being "thrown under the bus" for the sake of the rest of the district? I'm getting tired of seeing that term thrown around. Maybe it's a solution that makes more sense and significantly reduces splits. There is a way to minimize splits that the district doesn't seem to care about. I really don't understand why they don't care. Maybe because they have a personal agenda in the South? maybe it's easier to keep the three areas you've already upset as the ones still upset. At least you keep the rest of the areas happy and maybe they'll continue to vote for you? I know that for me, whenever someone makes a proposal that would keep Fry at NVHS, I think, "Another Fry person trying to do whatever they can to keep their community at NVHS." Can't help it, that's just my thought process. I feel that the decision on who would stay at NVHS back when the referendum passed should be adhered to. Nothing has really changed regarding NVHS. The schools that were coming out of there should still come out of there. When I heard that BB was probably not going to happen, I never thought, "Oh good, now WE can stay at NVHS." I always figured that no matter where the new high school was situated, WE would be moved out of NVHS. I feel the same way about Fry. |
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Post by macy on Feb 14, 2008 17:38:37 GMT -6
Why is it that whenever someone makes an alternate suggestion that alleviates a problem, it's them "throwing someone under the bus?" Aren't the initial schools in the current recommendation already being "thrown under the bus" for the sake of the rest of the district? I'm getting tired of seeing that term thrown around. Maybe it's a solution that makes more sense and significantly reduces splits. There is a way to minimize splits that the district doesn't seem to care about. I really don't understand why they don't care. Maybe because they have a personal agenda in the South? maybe it's easier to keep the three areas you've already upset as the ones still upset. At least you keep the rest of the areas happy and maybe they'll continue to vote for you? I know that for me, whenever someone makes a proposal that would keep Fry at NVHS, I think, "Another Fry person trying to do whatever they can to keep their community at NVHS." Can't help it, that's just my thought process. I feel that the decision on who would stay at NVHS back when the referendum passed should be adhered to. Nothing has really changed regarding NVHS. The schools that were coming out of there should still come out of there. When I heard that BB was probably not going to happen, I never thought, "Oh good, now WE can stay at NVHS." I always figured that no matter where the new high school was situated, WE would be moved out of NVHS. I feel the same way about Fry. Wow, there you go again!!! Amazing! We know you don't like the Fry community. I respect that. It's a shame you don't know more of us. I don't think you have a clue what our perspective is on this whole thing. we get it, we get it, we get it... you think we are selfish. I think you are wrong. We agree to disagree. Where do you live? And, I disagree wholeheartedly that the BB decision has anything to do with today's situation. It's a completely different situation. |
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Post by forthekids on Feb 14, 2008 17:41:09 GMT -6
You missed the key word - WELCH could go to WV. Fry would go to NV. Let's throw another subdivision under the bus to save our own, shall we? Brooksmom, Do you really expect that people will put other subdivision's best interest ahead of their own? Isn't it every man for themselves? Show me one subdivision that is willing to sacrifice what that they feel is in their best interest for the better of another? In a warm and fuzzy world, I understand your logic. That's not reality, and shouldn't be such, in my opinion. Actually, if you read through the posts you will find many people on this board who only want what is best for the district. I know I feel that way. I also know many of my neighbors who feel the same. And also, it is reality and should be in my opinion. People make sacrifices all the time for the good of the whole. |
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Post by macy on Feb 14, 2008 17:43:59 GMT -6
Brooksmom, Do you really expect that people will put other subdivision's best interest ahead of their own? Isn't it every man for themselves? Show me one subdivision that is willing to sacrifice what that they feel is in their best interest for the better of another? In a warm and fuzzy world, I understand your logic. That's not reality, and shouldn't be such, in my opinion. Actually, if you read through the posts you will find many people on this board who only want what is best for the district. I know I feel that way. I also know many of my neighbors who feel the same. And also, it is reality and should be in my opinion. People make sacrifices all the time for the good of the whole. Yes, I agree. I too would like to see something that is good for the district. You simply assume because I'm from Fry that I'm selfish. I've seen proposals that move schools north of 95th that allow for COMPLETE middle schools throughout the district. Wouldn't that be a good sacrifice? Can you focus your energy on some of those neighborhoods that are against moving out of NVHS? Moving Welch or Springbrook would allow for complete middle school feeders throughout the district. Are they selfish? |
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Post by forthekids on Feb 14, 2008 17:44:19 GMT -6
I know that for me, whenever someone makes a proposal that would keep Fry at NVHS, I think, "Another Fry person trying to do whatever they can to keep their community at NVHS." Can't help it, that's just my thought process. I feel that the decision on who would stay at NVHS back when the referendum passed should be adhered to. Nothing has really changed regarding NVHS. The schools that were coming out of there should still come out of there. When I heard that BB was probably not going to happen, I never thought, "Oh good, now WE can stay at NVHS." I always figured that no matter where the new high school was situated, WE would be moved out of NVHS. I feel the same way about Fry. Wow, there you go again!!! Amazing! We know you don't like the Fry community. I respect that. It's a shame you don't know more of us. I don't think you have a clue what our perspective is on this whole thing. we get it, we get it, we get it... you think we are selfish. I think you are wrong. We agree to disagree. Where do you live? I have said many times on this board that I live in White Eagle. Where do you live? I would guess you live in the Fry community. And I do have a clue because you and many people on this board have been blanketing this board with your perspective. I would have the same issues with any one community that constantly cried, "poor me" all the time. The Fry community happens to be the most vocal about their unhappiness. And I will continue to express my opinion if I so desire. That is what this board is about. As long as you keep complaining, I, and others will call you on it! Also, you act as if you are the only ones being moved out of NVHS and going to WVHS. Well, you're not. |
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Post by macy on Feb 14, 2008 17:46:43 GMT -6
Wow, there you go again!!! Amazing! We know you don't like the Fry community. I respect that. It's a shame you don't know more of us. I don't think you have a clue what our perspective is on this whole thing. we get it, we get it, we get it... you think we are selfish. I think you are wrong. We agree to disagree. Where do you live? I have said many times on this board that I live in White Eagle. Where do you live? I would guess you live in the Fry community. And I do have a clue because you and many people on this board have been blanketing this board with your perspective. I would have the same issues with any one community that constantly cried, "poor me" all the time. The Fry community happens to be the most vocal about their unhappiness. And I will continue to express my opinion if I so desire. That is what this board is about. As long as you keep complaining, I, and others will call you on it! I've never said "poor me". What I have said and will continue to say is that you are misinterpreting, my opinion, what the Fry community is saying. |
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Post by sleeplessinnpvl on Feb 14, 2008 17:46:53 GMT -6
Do you really expect that people will put other subdivision's best interest ahead of their own? Isn't it every man for themselves? Show me one subdivision that is willing to sacrifice what that they feel is in their best interest for the better of another? In a warm and fuzzy world, I understand your logic. That's not reality, and shouldn't be such, in my opinion. Macy, you are absolutely right. No one wants to be in the position some of you are in. And the fact that the board dangles a carrot in front of us and makes us think we have power and then takes that carrot away from us just damages the district more. And in the end, we don't get what we want and we are even more angry than if they had just said, "Hey, this is the way it's gonna be." This board is very wishy washy and/or manipulative in my opinion and it weakens our district. We are just too big a district for everyone to be happy. I doubt there is a boundary proposal anywhere in the U.S. where everyone is happy. This is just an evil process that has to be done so the kids can have more room in their schools. |
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Post by macy on Feb 14, 2008 17:48:14 GMT -6
Do you really expect that people will put other subdivision's best interest ahead of their own? Isn't it every man for themselves? Show me one subdivision that is willing to sacrifice what that they feel is in their best interest for the better of another? In a warm and fuzzy world, I understand your logic. That's not reality, and shouldn't be such, in my opinion. Macy, you are absolutely right. No one wants to be in the position some of you are in. And the fact that the board dangles a carrot in front of us and makes us think we have power and then takes that carrot away from us just damages the district more. And in the end, we don't get what we want and we are even more angry than if they had just said, "Hey, this is the way it's gonna be." This board is very wishy washy and/or manipulative in my opinion and it weakens our district. We are just too big a district for everyone to be happy. I doubt there is a boundary proposal anywhere in the U.S. where everyone is happy. This is just an evil process that has to be done so the kids can have more room in their schools. Sleepless, I agree wholeheartedly. Thank you for trying to understand the perspective of the FRY community. We are not as selfish as many state. I appreciate your comment. |
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Post by sleeplessinnpvl on Feb 14, 2008 17:51:39 GMT -6
Macy, you are absolutely right. No one wants to be in the position some of you are in. And the fact that the board dangles a carrot in front of us and makes us think we have power and then takes that carrot away from us just damages the district more. And in the end, we don't get what we want and we are even more angry than if they had just said, "Hey, this is the way it's gonna be." This board is very wishy washy and/or manipulative in my opinion and it weakens our district. We are just too big a district for everyone to be happy. I doubt there is a boundary proposal anywhere in the U.S. where everyone is happy. This is just an evil process that has to be done so the kids can have more room in their schools. Sleepless, I agree wholeheartedly. Thank you for trying to understand the perspective of the FRY community. We are not as selfish as many state. I appreciate your comment. No problem. I have a lot of friends there. I wouldn't wish this whole thing on anyone. |
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Post by concerned on Feb 14, 2008 17:54:01 GMT -6
Actually, if you read through the posts you will find many people on this board who only want what is best for the district. I know I feel that way. I also know many of my neighbors who feel the same. And also, it is reality and should be in my opinion. People make sacrifices all the time for the good of the whole. Yes, I agree. I too would like to see something that is good for the district. You simply assume because I'm from Fry that I'm selfish. I've seen proposals that move schools north of 95th that allow for COMPLETE middle schools throughout the district. Wouldn't that be a good sacrifice? Can you focus your energy on some of those neighborhoods that are against moving out of NVHS? Moving Welch or Springbrook would allow for complete middle school feeders throughout the district. Are they selfish? And if they moved Welch or Springbrook that would also solve Peterson's problems. Fry is upset because we were told we were going to WV and it would be with WE, but then they seperate us at Scullen, they have created a mess out of the whole SW corner, and they added the memo about the bridge. If this didn't feel so political it would be easier to take. |
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Post by forthekids on Feb 14, 2008 17:54:19 GMT -6
Actually, if you read through the posts you will find many people on this board who only want what is best for the district. I know I feel that way. I also know many of my neighbors who feel the same. And also, it is reality and should be in my opinion. People make sacrifices all the time for the good of the whole. Yes, I agree. I too would like to see something that is good for the district. You simply assume because I'm from Fry that I'm selfish. I've seen proposals that move schools north of 95th that allow for COMPLETE middle schools throughout the district. Wouldn't that be a good sacrifice? Can you focus your energy on some of those neighborhoods that are against moving out of NVHS? Moving Welch or Springbrook would allow for complete middle school feeders throughout the district. Are they selfish? From what I have read, Fry is the vocal majority about moving out of NVHS. I am not speaking about MS. I haven't heard too many people from SB or Welch complaining about split MS. No one was promised what MS they would be attending and I happen to be one of those people who do not believe MS splits are that big a deal. My daughter went to a split MS and she thrived in MS, HS and is currently thriving in college. I don't think it is a big deal. It does, however, give some people a cover. If you act as if your proposal is just about keeping some MS's from splitting and just so happens allows your community to stay at NVHS and some other to leave, well all the better for you than. I would ask the people on this board which they would prefer, a split MS and staying at NVHS or no split MS and moving to a new HS. I know what you would prefer! |
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Post by forthekids on Feb 14, 2008 17:55:37 GMT -6
Yes, I agree. I too would like to see something that is good for the district. You simply assume because I'm from Fry that I'm selfish. I've seen proposals that move schools north of 95th that allow for COMPLETE middle schools throughout the district. Wouldn't that be a good sacrifice? Can you focus your energy on some of those neighborhoods that are against moving out of NVHS? Moving Welch or Springbrook would allow for complete middle school feeders throughout the district. Are they selfish? And if they moved Welch or Springbrook that would also solve Peterson's problems. Fry is upset because we were told we were going to WV and it would be with WE, but then they seperate us at Scullen, they have created a mess out of the whole SW corner, and they added the memo about the bridge. If this didn't feel so political it would be easier to take. Why do you think WE doesn't seem to be upset about this situation? |
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Post by concerned on Feb 14, 2008 17:59:57 GMT -6
Trust me you would be hearing from the Welch community if they were moved from NV. They put out a rumor that Fry had a petition to boot them out of NV. This rumor was ment to get the Welch community aware that they might move. Welch is very happy, they didn't make ONE MOVE and their split is soooooo different from FRY's.
SB was very vocal in the first boundary wars, but they got to fight when Fry was placed at NV in 3 out of 4 proposal, SB got to fight before the wars became so public. They were saying the same things we in the FRY community have been saying. I quess it is ok for others to act one way, but for others areas we are to just take one for the team.
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Post by forthekids on Feb 14, 2008 18:06:17 GMT -6
Trust me you would be hearing from the Welch community if they were moved from NV. They put out a rumor that Fry had a petition to boot them out of NV. This rumor was ment to get the Welch community aware that they might move. Welch is very happy, they didn't make ONE MOVE and their split is soooooo different from FRY's. SB was very vocal in the first boundary wars, but they got to fight when Fry was placed at NV in 3 out of 4 proposal, SB got to fight before the wars became so public. They were saying the same things we in the FRY community have been saying. I quess it is ok for others to act one way, but for others areas we are to just take one for the team. I guess I haven't been clear. This "conversation" has gotten very convoluted! Of course, everyone has a right to voice their opinions when the decisions are being made. My point is that the decision was made before the referendum who was moving out of NVHS. Just because BB is no longer the site does not, in my opinion, mean that everything is up for grabs, again. The point I have been trying to make is simply that if BB were still the option, Fry would not be complaining now. It is only because they will be at WVHS that the battles are beginning anew. |
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