Disappointment - Cont'd Part3

[lacy]

d204mom said:

sleeplessinnpvl said:

If anything I would be more concerned about the way my community was acting having an influence on my property values.

This is all the school board's fault! They have put us in this position!!

D203 could have solved their Mill Street Elementary problems by shuffling boundaries. Superintendent Leis had a meeting with Will-O-Way about moving them away from Mill Street. The parents FREAKED out. He actually LISTENED to them and guess what - instead of solving the Mill St overcrowding for FREE they added $11M to their referendum to expand it in order to save that subdivision a CRAPPY commute.

I didn't see any namecalling or crappy nicknames for Will-o-way. Because they were HEARD. That $11M will probably be paid back in a few years in bus savings.

BUT here we are in D204 - our concerns are ignored and we are told to SHUT UP OR get a CRAPPY NICKNAME and have board members imply nasty stuff about them. HUH?

Right - I don't think people really care what others call us at this point.

The neighborhood has come together unlike anything I've seen (and I've been here since the beginning) - and not in a negative way but a very constructive way.

We simply want to be treated fairly and have an equitable outcome. And I don't think people will "shut up" until they are heard. Whichever avenue we have to take to be heard, we'll take.

[kmjone]

moo said:

warriordiva said:

Okay I'm going to try this again! I'm a real estate agent and that is just bad information. According to the MLS (which I just checked) there are 37 active listings in the Fry attendance area. 4 of those are under contract including one which just sold in 1 day! There is only 1 contract that was sold and then reactivated and that happenen back on January 16 - long before the boundaries were announced. Passing on this type of mis-information is doing nothing to help the cause.

I'm also a real estate agent. When I saw Macy's message yesterday, I immediately tried to get registered to respond because that kind of mis-information can be so detrimental to the area.

Warriordiva is absolutely correct. The Fry attendance area doesn't seem to be lacking for sales any more than any other Naperville neighborhood in thier price range. (River Run 15 actives 2 under contract - Stillwater 22 actives 1 under contract)

This is pretty much in line with the rest of Naperville, the city as a whole has 501 single family homes listed in the MLS priced at 550,000 and over. 53 of those are under contract

So, Macy, what say you?

[kmjone]

lacy said:

d204mom said:

This is all the school board's fault! They have put us in this position!!

D203 could have solved their Mill Street Elementary problems by shuffling boundaries. Superintendent Leis had a meeting with Will-O-Way about moving them away from Mill Street. The parents FREAKED out. He actually LISTENED to them and guess what - instead of solving the Mill St overcrowding for FREE they added $11M to their referendum to expand it in order to save that subdivision a CRAPPY commute.

I didn't see any namecalling or crappy nicknames for Will-o-way. Because they were HEARD. That $11M will probably be paid back in a few years in bus savings.

BUT here we are in D204 - our concerns are ignored and we are told to SHUT UP OR get a CRAPPY NICKNAME and have board members imply nasty stuff about them. HUH?

Right - I don't think people really care what others call us at this point.

The neighborhood has come together unlike anything I've seen (and I've been here since the beginning) - and not in a negative way but a very constructive way.

We simply want to be treated fairly and have an equitable outcome. And I don't think people will "shut up" until they are heard. Whichever avenue we have to take to be heard, we'll take.

Constructive, factual discussion should always be welcome. Unfortunately, misinformation such as supposed board member's move, his supposed selfish motivations and false real estate data does no one any good.

[jwh]

wvhsparent said:

d204mom said:

Does everyone really think they will approve a set of boundaries tomorrow night?

Am I the only one thinking it's premature given that we haven't seen the Phase II and we haven't closed on the property yet?

I am going back and forth still. Part of me wants them to be done with it, and part of me wants them to try to work on it some more.
If they do decide, They had better be able to justify each and every assignment.

Judging by the SB member feedback in the article in the Daily Herald, it's gonna be a done deal tonight.

[jwh]

brad204 said:

d204mom said:

Does everyone really think they will approve a set of boundaries tomorrow night?

Am I the only one thinking it's premature given that we haven't seen the Phase II and we haven't closed on the property yet?

I say they get approved. It will be very orderly and it will go through smoothly. Well, except for the public comment part. What time do people think I need to get there to sit in the actually room and not the remote room?

Yesterday

[doctorwho]

jwh said:

wvhsparent said:

I am going back and forth still. Part of me wants them to be done with it, and part of me wants them to try to work on it some more.
If they do decide, They had better be able to justify each and every assignment.

Judging by the SB member feedback in the article in the Daily Herald, it's gonna be a done deal tonight.

face it - it ws a done deal weeks ago

[jwh]

eagledad said:

I just got back from a meeting of the White Eagle homeowners. There were about 150 present it was standing room only. Needless to say there was not a lot of support for the Administration proposal.

I would break it down into 2 camps - ~60% who want to charge the board with pitchforks and throw out the whole referendum and third high school.

I was in the minority - the group who has accepted they are going to Waubonsie and are concerned with 3/4 lowest perfming schools and the lowest achievment scores in the district.

There's a big petition coming out of White Eagle voicing the concerns of academic balance in the proposal.

There was even a documented call for a Clow<->Gombert swap in there. Yep, you read that right. It took me just as much by suprise. It was point 2 (after the obvious McCarty<->Owen swap). Can't figure that one out myself, but it was there. The logic given was that NV should have 1 title 1 (lowest 4) school.

Interesting how they are trying to push the low performing feeder schools as a problem now, when it wasn't an issue when they were going to MV@BB.....

[sleeplessinnpvl]

Can anyone with a little time on their hands do some Googling? I am curious. How many school districts besides the ones around here with their very concerned parents actually listen for feedback and change boundaries based on the input of 10% of the public? I think it is incredible that our school board even listens. There is no law that says that they have to. And it sure dredges up a lot of resentment when people feel that even though they have opened up to comments, they aren't being heard.

I don't think President Bush calls the Naperville Sun and asks what its very unscientific polling results were and then decides to act. I know I don't have GW's email address so I can't tell him how I think he should run his country.

I wouldn't be surprised if the board did just vote on the proposal tonight. Maybe tweak it if it does help someone and not hurt others. But just moving around the pain....I don't think that is going to happen.

Personally, I think the board should move on and get the boundaries over with. Then we can concentrate on getting them to look at the site and make sure there aren't any environmental concerns.

[kmjone]

jwh said:

wvhsparent said:

I am going back and forth still. Part of me wants them to be done with it, and part of me wants them to try to work on it some more.
If they do decide, They had better be able to justify each and every assignment.

Judging by the SB member feedback in the article in the Daily Herald, it's gonna be a done deal tonight.

The article says that the SB has heard everything. Unless there is something really innovative during public comment, they'll probably vote tonight. I'd like to attend, to see the SB reaction to those speaking. They're saying the support for and against is 50/50, so it will be really lively tonight.

[tina]

kmjone said:

moo said:

I'm also a real estate agent. When I saw Macy's message yesterday, I immediately tried to get registered to respond because that kind of mis-information can be so detrimental to the area.

Warriordiva is absolutely correct. The Fry attendance area doesn't seem to be lacking for sales any more than any other Naperville neighborhood in thier price range. (River Run 15 actives 2 under contract - Stillwater 22 actives 1 under contract)

This is pretty much in line with the rest of Naperville, the city as a whole has 501 single family homes listed in the MLS priced at 550,000 and over. 53 of those are under contract

So, Macy, what say you?

[doctorwho]

kmjone said:

jwh said:

Judging by the SB member feedback in the article in the Daily Herald, it's gonna be a done deal tonight.

The article says that the SB has heard everything. Unless there is something really innovative during public comment, they'll probably vote tonight. I'd like to attend, to see the SB reaction to those speaking. They're saying the support for and against is 50/50, so it will be really lively tonight.

another fabrication on the 'support'

4 ES areas support these boundaries period- and maybe they need to go back to everyday math to calcualte %'s ( or everyday language arts to understand definitions as NONE of the others areas really support it.

I am sure they count Steck and McCarty as supporters -- well move either or both to MV and see if they support the site)-
the far SE that will go to NV nomatter what -- do they support the plan -NO - they are indifferent- but that is not the same as support.

Now that they didnt conjure up enough callers from those 4 areas for this pole- it will just be spun differently...

[tina]

kmjone said:

moo said:

I'm also a real estate agent. When I saw Macy's message yesterday, I immediately tried to get registered to respond because that kind of mis-information can be so detrimental to the area.

Warriordiva is absolutely correct. The Fry attendance area doesn't seem to be lacking for sales any more than any other Naperville neighborhood in thier price range. (River Run 15 actives 2 under contract - Stillwater 22 actives 1 under contract)

This is pretty much in line with the rest of Naperville, the city as a whole has 501 single family homes listed in the MLS priced at 550,000 and over. 53 of those are under contract

So, Macy, what say you?

I personally know the people who backed out of the Jan. contract in Tall Grass. They definitely did not want to move here because of the "expected" boundary being Waubonsee. In fact they used to live in TG and wanted to move back, but changed their mind after talking to their TG friends and reading the blogs.
The same people also backed out of a contract in TG a few weeks before that, but it wasn't due to the boundaries.

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They should release the raw emf data from any samples they have taken in the past 3 years as well as the raw data for the soil and water table analysis (phase2) prior to any boundary decision.

Those are what will determine if the boundaries are even needed.

[sleeplessinnpvl]

tina said:

kmjone said:

So, Macy, what say you?

I personally know the people who backed out of the Jan. contract in Tall Grass. They definitely did not want to move here because of the "expected" boundary being Waubonsee. In fact they used to live in TG and wanted to move back, but changed their mind after talking to their TG friends and reading the blogs.
The same people also backed out of a contract in TG a few weeks before that, but it wasn't due to the boundaries.

And I personally know people who are looking in TG and have no problem if the school goes to WV. That area will always have beautiful new homes and people like that. And it's not like the school is a leper school...it's great. I don't see a problem.

[moo]

tina said:

I personally know the people who backed out of the Jan. contract in Tall Grass. They definitely did not want to move here because of the "expected" boundary being Waubonsee. In fact they used to live in TG and wanted to move back, but changed their mind after talking to their TG friends and reading the blogs.
The same people also backed out of a contract in TG a few weeks before that, but it wasn't due to the boundaries.

Those people went "under contract" on January 3, 2008, the contract was not cancelled until January 16th.. what about the school district changed in that period of time?

They cancelled two contracts in the same neighborhood.. within a short period of time...perhaps they have commitment isuues... Did they purchase somewhere else?