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Post by slp on Apr 11, 2008 6:16:36 GMT -6
The more I think about this, the only decision that can be made is to purchase BB. It is best for the district for many reasons. It is the only way to 'save face' with what they have done. At least the decision lands them back to a #1 choice in the first place. Any other choice will upset areas for one of the same reasons the NSFOC was upset...it is bait and switch.
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 11, 2008 6:19:09 GMT -6
The more I think about this, the only decision that can be made is to purchase BB. It is best for the district for many reasons. It is the only way to 'save face' with what they have done. At least the decision lands them back to a #1 choice in the first place. Any other choice will upset areas for one of the same reasons the NSFOC was upset...it is bait and switch. or a referendum on the site -- we'll see who the silent majority is then.
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Post by JB on Apr 11, 2008 6:20:43 GMT -6
Didn't Howie say we could afford $600K/acre? Any option but BB exposes us to at least 3 lawsuits, which could have devastating impacts on the district. Buy BB, and those go away. If we abandon the third HS altogether, the SB would need to return the ref funds. But, we'd still exposed to the legal liability. This time if the BB lawyers win, it's really going to hurt financially. IMHO, we need to act decisively to get BB. Please. There's nothing embarrassing about standing up for what you think is right, and when your only apparent recourse is the legal system, that's what you do. If MWGEN was so confident in the cleanliness of its site, it would have ignored the opposition/concern and plowed ahead. If the SB weren't incompetent, it wouldn't have selected a site that would have costed SUBSTANTIALLY more to operate than BB. agree. If there was no merit to the safety concerns of this site, MWGEN never would have pulled out IMO. They know there is the potential for legal ramifications due to what they have admitted was used on that land. No school should be built on that land from the sound of things nor should a school be built next to it. Infact, being next to it might be worse especially if NO remediation will take place.
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Post by kimmie on Apr 11, 2008 6:24:41 GMT -6
Vickers said she thinks the district needs to take an even bigger step back.
"It has been my position that there is no need for a third high school and I have never wavered from that stance," she said. "In reviewing the actual and projected high school enrollment presented to us by the administration in March 2008, showing enrollment peaks in 2012 and 2013 at 8,900, the need for a 3,000-student high school continues to be questionable."
"In light of the differing issues together with the upset and division amongst the community today, wouldn't it now be an opportune time to revisit this issue in its entirety with a more conservative, less costly, less controversial approach in order to minimize the turmoil being generated from all angles?"
I'm now on the fence about the 3rd high school-do we need it? I need to figure it out, not that it has any impact w/the SD/SB
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Post by Dad204 on Apr 11, 2008 6:27:27 GMT -6
My suggestion is that the school district build a half-baked school on the 25 acres they own at BB, and Jasmine Grassi from the No School crown can explain to the rest of her friends in Tall Grass and White Eagle why their kids are in an over crowded school. (But at least they wouldn't be with those Waubonsie kids!)
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 11, 2008 6:31:04 GMT -6
Vickers said she thinks the district needs to take an even bigger step back. "It has been my position that there is no need for a third high school and I have never wavered from that stance," she said. "In reviewing the actual and projected high school enrollment presented to us by the administration in March 2008, showing enrollment peaks in 2012 and 2013 at 8,900, the need for a 3,000-student high school continues to be questionable." "In light of the differing issues together with the upset and division amongst the community today, wouldn't it now be an opportune time to revisit this issue in its entirety with a more conservative, less costly, less controversial approach in order to minimize the turmoil being generated from all angles?" I'm now on the fence about the 3rd high school-do we need it? I need to figure it out, not that it has any impact w/the SD/SB I have seen the numbers she references. While that is big for 2 HS's - it is a far cry from 10,400 that some people keep using for their models. It all comes back to those capacity numbers. A study a few years ago showed 85% capacity at NV Gold as 1300 +. Is that a good number ? - a bad number ? And MS numbers drop the next few years --
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Post by sleeplessinnpvl on Apr 11, 2008 6:32:58 GMT -6
Vickers said she thinks the district needs to take an even bigger step back. "It has been my position that there is no need for a third high school and I have never wavered from that stance," she said. "In reviewing the actual and projected high school enrollment presented to us by the administration in March 2008, showing enrollment peaks in 2012 and 2013 at 8,900, the need for a 3,000-student high school continues to be questionable." "In light of the differing issues together with the upset and division amongst the community today, wouldn't it now be an opportune time to revisit this issue in its entirety with a more conservative, less costly, less controversial approach in order to minimize the turmoil being generated from all angles?" I'm now on the fence about the 3rd high school-do we need it? I need to figure it out, not that it has any impact w/the SD/SB I have seen the numbers she references. While that is big for 2 HS's - it is a far cry from 10,400 that some people keep using for their models. It all comes back to those capacity numbers. A study a few years ago showed 85% capacity at NV Gold as 1300 +. Is that a good number ? - a bad number ? And MS numbers drop the next few years -- And let's also figure in the number of people that are going to move out of this district because it is a war zone and their kids will be going to school in a sardine can.
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 11, 2008 6:35:09 GMT -6
My suggestion is that the school district build a half-baked school on the 25 acres they own at BB, and Jasmine Grassi from the No School crown can explain to the rest of her friends in Tall Grass and White Eagle why their kids are in an over crowded school. (But at least they wouldn't be with those Waubonsie kids!) Or we can build a small HS @ AME and Chad Martinson and the rest of the anti bunch can explain to people it's only for people who want to send their kids there, no one HAS to go and risk their children. That way they get to keep the school in their back yards, and it affects no one but them. two can play the name game
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Post by Arch on Apr 11, 2008 6:36:29 GMT -6
My suggestion is that the school district build a half-baked school on the 25 acres they own at BB, and Jasmine Grassi from the No School crown can explain to the rest of her friends in Tall Grass and White Eagle why their kids are in an over crowded school. (But at least they wouldn't be with those Waubonsie kids!) Or we can build a small HS @ AME and Chad Martinson and the rest of the anti bunch can explain to people it's only for people who want to send their kids there, no one HAS to go and risk their children. That way they get to keep the school in their back yards, and it affects no one but them. two can play the name game Darwin High.
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 11, 2008 6:39:59 GMT -6
I have seen the numbers she references. While that is big for 2 HS's - it is a far cry from 10,400 that some people keep using for their models. It all comes back to those capacity numbers. A study a few years ago showed 85% capacity at NV Gold as 1300 +. Is that a good number ? - a bad number ? And MS numbers drop the next few years -- And let's also figure in the number of people that are going to move out of this district because it is a war zone and their kids will be going to school in a sardine can. People are already leaving over this- you can thank your leaders for that. Again. assign your area to AME and tell me you'd send your children there ? I am still onthe 3rd HS bus, but the numbers do warrant looking at with regards to what we build also. Remember the request to build a 2500 max HS @ BB ? Or to build a 'magnet' type school. Let's hope everything is really on the table.
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Post by kimmie on Apr 11, 2008 6:40:40 GMT -6
Dr. Who and Arch ya'll crack me up-thanks!!
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Post by Arch on Apr 11, 2008 6:42:20 GMT -6
And let's also figure in the number of people that are going to move out of this district because it is a war zone and their kids will be going to school in a sardine can. People are already leaving over this- you can thank your leaders for that. Again. assign your area to AME and tell me you'd send your children there ? I am still onthe 3rd HS bus, but the numbers do warrant looking at with regards to what we build also. Remember the request to build a 2500 max HS @ BB ? Or to build a 'magnet' type school. Let's hope everything is really on the table. Even if everyone still has a belief in what SHOULD be done, it would be very prudent to comb back over everything again to make sure the ducks are in a row and we are still moving forward with VALID DATA and not just ASSumptions about everything: Costs, Capacity need, Land size, etc.
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Post by Arch on Apr 11, 2008 6:43:04 GMT -6
Dr. Who and Arch ya'll crack me up-thanks!! We're here all week.. Try the fish and tip your server!
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Post by blankcheck on Apr 11, 2008 6:44:51 GMT -6
I would agree that this whole situation needs to be re-looked at before proceeding.
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Post by kimmie on Apr 11, 2008 6:46:33 GMT -6
Of course everything should be combed through, from TODAY w/ the picking out the 204's needs for the 3rd high school, but is the SD/SB capable of it, with their track record?
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