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Post by sashimi on Apr 13, 2008 8:28:15 GMT -6
I also do not like being CALLED a racist but I dare these folks to call me a racist by name. It sickens me that the District and Board are fueling this fire and not one person from the Board or Administration has tried to bring the community together (is this part of the Plan B playbook??).
This is exactly why more people have not been willing speak up in public. I just hope that more people have the courage to stop being bullied and take a stand. The Board meeting tommorrow night is a great place to start.
I have personnally been absent from these puppet shows for a while, but I can tell you...I feel a speech coming on (and look forward to seeing many of you tommorrow evening).
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 13, 2008 8:29:59 GMT -6
I've tried to keep this type of hateful rhetoric from my children. But today I am going to open their eyes. They might as well know what some sections of the district are calling all of us. If the leadership in the district (SB and Admin) continue to stand silent as they have been, I will do every thing in my power to be sure that my children do not continue to be part of this district. This is the last straw - what this MINORITY of people (Chad, Jennifer, etc.) is doing to our community is unacceptable. Snerdly, you have no idea how happy I am that I will be removing my child from this B S next year. And as soon as the market picks up, ( I pray it's soon) I will move from 204 also. I will stay in Naperville - my home for the past 20 years as I love it, but not in 204. These comments are so far over the top by an area that was once 'entitled' in 204 -( trust me ), and now thinks the world owes them something are not something I want my children exposed to. This is such an embarassment to this district. If the rest of the leadership of this community does not condemn these kinds of comments, then one can assume they also support them. Unfair, maybe, but this is a serious enough issue now to be addressed. I sure hope someone responds to these comments tomorrow |
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Post by macy on Apr 13, 2008 8:31:33 GMT -6
Sashimi,
I too believe that the district and board are fueling this fued. How pathetic have we all become.
It's time for someone to come in and stop this before it goes any further.
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Post by acm on Apr 13, 2008 8:31:54 GMT -6
TO drwho
Any NSFOC does?? Unfortunately when folks put their names out there, they get this onslaught of personal attacks. It has happened on both sides.
A general comment-- yes the Brookdale community was very vocal when their elementary was being split from the other Hill Feeder schools and would be thrilled for this not to happen. I do know for a fact that when the boundary discussion came up again to fit the Eola site many emails went out asking that NO Elementary schools be made an island. How does this show that they don't care about anyone else? I think anyone who knows the people in the Brookdale communtiy knows it to be a community full of kindness.
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 13, 2008 8:36:09 GMT -6
TO drwho Any NSFOC does?? Unfortunately when folks put their names out there, they get this onslaught of personal attacks. It has happened on both sides. A general comment-- yes the Brookdale community was very vocal when their elementary was being split from the other Hill Feeder schools and would be thrilled for this not to happen. I do know for a fact that when the boundary discussion came up again to fit the Eola site many emails went out asking that NO Elementary schools be made an island. How does this show that they don't care about anyone else? I think anyone who knows the people in the Brookdale communtiy knows it to be a community full of kindness. Rather than try and workout the island situation ( and you have 2 SB members in your community) in the 2 years it would have taken to get the school build - and you had support from other communities from Hill ( not any more ) - we agreed it was wrong and thought it could be addressed when MS boundaries were done, the area chose to Vote NO - and try and kill the 3rd HS-- what would you call that ? Your area tried to do the same thing you are accusing others of doing. And now lead by comments like these - are mbarassing the entire district IMHO. Is anyone opposed to the Eola sit ( and there are lots - and would be lots more if they had to go there ) - an elitist and rascist ? How low are people willing to go ? If there are people in Brookdale who disagree with these comments- time to speak up now, or else I view it as that is the community view - given to the 204 community by Jennifer and Chad. It's your call....I didn;t see you disagree with the comments ? |
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Post by sleeplessinnpvl on Apr 13, 2008 8:39:51 GMT -6
It angers me that their argument in favor of the Eola site constantly focuses on the "elitists etc etc" angle. What about defending the very real negatives of the site? This northwestern site demands that half of the student population assigned there are traveling to the third farthest school from their homes. Mr Martinson, Ms Streder, find a northern location that does not cause the a majority of students attending that school to cross RR tracks and travel to the farthest HS from their home and does not have three gas mains running down the middle of it and I will support that site. they don't care about ANYONE but their own community - this is not new news unfortuanately Got to agree with you on that doc. Not many people in this district seem to be trying to make anything work in a calm way. It's my way or the highway. That applies to NSFOC, n-fraud, the SB. I want proof from the SB that they are considering all options, not just wordspeak to the newspapers. Some people on here have had some nice discussions about possibilities and considering other options. But I have a hard time believing some numbers being thrown around. It would be nice to have an independent evaluator come in for that. I am really liking the idea of that citizen group formation but again, those idiot signs with the arrows pointing at each other keep coming into my mind. I think this district is too divided for that to even occur. But if we did have one rep from every ES maybe we would get something accomplished, I don't know. |
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Post by entitled on Apr 13, 2008 8:40:44 GMT -6
I think that our latte liberals need to get over themselves. Calling "elitism" amongst residents in this district is nothing short of laughable. Chad and Jennifer, get over yourselves - the world doesn't need another martyr for so shallow of a cause. The plain truth is that everyone wants their own way. I guess we should know that there is no honor among theives. Fence, returning the name calling does not help. It makes it a little harder to defend my neighbors if I am attacked. A latte liberal Obama Mama |
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Post by kimmie on Apr 13, 2008 8:42:46 GMT -6
From what I have learned in life people will go very low when they are scared they will lose, they will do anything, say anything to win, even thou they know it's morally wrong.
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Post by Arch on Apr 13, 2008 8:43:39 GMT -6
Sleepless,
I have a hard time believing we can ever afford to have a 3rd HS if we don't go back and engage BB for purchase of their land. It all boils down to that.
The district believes there are just people out there tossing stones at them. They have no idea that 3 special forces teams have their heads painted with laser target finders and 6 F-22's are en route to unleash a flury of hell from all directions.
They are out gunned and we will ALL lose A TON of money if they don't get their act together. Right or wrong doesn't matter when you are in this situation. What matters is picking the only way out that still leaves you with financial life.
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Post by entitled on Apr 13, 2008 8:45:48 GMT -6
Sleepless, I have a hard time believing we can ever afford to have a 3rd HS if we don't go back and engage BB for purchase of their land. It all boils down to that. The district believes there are just people out there tossing stones at them. They have no idea that 3 special forces teams have their heads painted with laser target finders and 6 F-22's are en route to unleash a flury of hell from all directions. They are out gunned and we will ALL lose A TON of money if they don't get their act together. Right or wrong doesn't matter when you are in this situation. What matters is picking the only way out that still leaves you with financial life. Arch, take it easy on the battle metaphors. There is way too much emotion to add weaponry to the conversation. |
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 13, 2008 8:46:01 GMT -6
they don't care about ANYONE but their own community - this is not new news unfortuanately Got to agree with you on that doc. Not many people in this district seem to be trying to make anything work in a calm way. It's my way or the highway. That applies to NSFOC, n-fraud, the SB. I want proof from the SB that they are considering all options, not just wordspeak to the newspapers. Some people on here have had some nice discussions about possibilities and considering other options. But I have a hard time believing some numbers being thrown around. It would be nice to have an independent evaluator come in for that. I am really liking the idea of that citizen group formation but again, those idiot signs with the arrows pointing at each other keep coming into my mind. I think this district is too divided for that to even occur. But if we did have one rep from every ES maybe we would get something accomplished, I don't know. Sleepless, thank you for seeing that. We may not agree on everything but let me ask you this. But for the Grace of 5A instead of 5B, this could very well be your community being called rascists and Elitists by some, I hope you realize that. How would you feel then. And let's face ti with a SB election in April - who knows if boundaries are really a done deal anywhere any more-- I would hope everyone speaks out against these types of slanderous comments - they are a reflection on our entire community - and are an embarassment. Would you not agree Also does ANYONE beleive ALL options are back on the table. If another decision is made Monday, did they go back thru everything ? C'mon -- I don't believe revisiting BB or looking at MACOM are anywhere near the table - one of which I don't believe was EVER on the table - let alone now. |
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Post by sleeplessinnpvl on Apr 13, 2008 8:47:16 GMT -6
Sleepless, I have a hard time believing we can ever afford to have a 3rd HS if we don't go back and engage BB for purchase of their land. It all boils down to that. The district believes there are just people out there tossing stones at them. They have no idea that 3 special forces teams have their heads painted with laser target finders and 6 F-22's are en route to unleash a flury of hell from all directions. They are out gunned and we will ALL lose A TON of money if they don't get their act together. Right or wrong doesn't matter when you are in this situation. What matters is picking the only way out that still leaves you with financial life. I agree Arch. I feel there are so many obstacles to overcome to get this built and many more to overcome once it's built. I wish I had a Ouija board so I could know the outcome. I would hate to have our kids in a high school and then no money to run it. What an embarrassment to our district. |
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Post by entitled on Apr 13, 2008 8:53:08 GMT -6
Doc, you know the personalities of our leadership better than most. They have their egos to protect, they have a point to prove. Divide and conquer has been the backbone of political quests in this district. It just doesn't feel so good win you are the dividee vs the divider.
We don't have to wait for the district to appoint a citizens group to offer constructive feedback to the SB/SD. Perhaps there are folks who would come together as a source of community healing.
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Post by Arch on Apr 13, 2008 8:53:56 GMT -6
Sleepless, I have a hard time believing we can ever afford to have a 3rd HS if we don't go back and engage BB for purchase of their land. It all boils down to that. The district believes there are just people out there tossing stones at them. They have no idea that 3 special forces teams have their heads painted with laser target finders and 6 F-22's are en route to unleash a flury of hell from all directions. They are out gunned and we will ALL lose A TON of money if they don't get their act together. Right or wrong doesn't matter when you are in this situation. What matters is picking the only way out that still leaves you with financial life. Arch, take it easy on the battle metaphors. There is way too much emotion to add weaponry to the conversation. I'm telling you straight up because ALL of us have a stake in this regardless of our own needs, wants or desires with the details... We are in some HUGE firms' target sights with this situation and firms like that do not devote gobs of human resources to endeavors unless they are pretty assured of a HUGE payout. I honestly believe the district has absolutely no clue what they are going to be up against. That will sink us all, regardless of where we live, regardless of our school assignment, regardless of whether we even have kids in the system or not. |
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Post by cb on Apr 13, 2008 9:00:32 GMT -6
I wonder if MWGEN is happy that Mr. Martinson "translated" their letter to Dist 204. His claim that NSFOC "worked through highly paid lawyers and with lobbyists through back-door political channels to endanger our ability to do business in the state of Illinois" is pretty strong if not slanderous. Could this possibly have happened? Does this guy really believe that a politician can or would even try to dictate who we get our power from. They would have to be delusional to think they could pull that off. Maybe I'm naive, but this a really tall tale.
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