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Post by overtaxed on Jun 6, 2008 13:03:42 GMT -6
Drove by a few minutes ago-it isn't up and I don't see a section sitting around that looks like it is it. Maybe they got a memo that we don't need it anymore  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For Immediate Release MEDIA RELEASE June 5, 2008 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For more information, contact: Nadja Lalvani Community Relations Manager (630) 420-6034 lalvanin@naperville.il.us [mailto:lalvanin@naperville.il.us] Kate Houlihan Community Relations Specialist (630) 305-5341 houlihank@naperville.il.us [mailto:houlihank@naperville.il.us] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Route 59 Lane Closures Postponed to Overnight Hours on Monday, June 9 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ NAPERVILLE, IL - The lane reductions and road closures on Route 59 originally planned for the overnight hours of Thursday, June 5, are being postponed due to a shipping delay of the center section of the pedestrian bridge. This delay is being caused by a combination of interstate road construction and road closures due to recent severe weather in Nebraska. The placement of the center of the bridge, and the associated lane reduction and road closures on Route 59, will be delayed until the overnight hours of Monday, June 9. At that time, Route 59 between 95th Street and 103rd Avenue will be closed periodically from 11 p.m. on Monday, June 9, 2008, to 4 a.m. on Tuesday, June 10, 2008, in order to set the final truss for the pedestrian bridge. There will be lane reductions prior to and after the road closure in order to allow for the connection and staging of the truss for placement. Motorists are encouraged to take alternate routes to avoid delays. Book Road or 248th Street between 95th Street and 103rd Street can be utilized as an alternate route during the closure. The purpose of this project is to improve local and regional pedestrian and bicycle mobility and accessibility in southwestern Naperville by constructing a pedestrian bridge on Route 59, just south of 95th Street. In recent years, there has been a surge of new residential and commercial development in southwestern Naperville. In addition, other activity centers such as the new 95th Street Library, Frontier Park and various schools have attracted new residents to the area. These residents have had difficulty crossing Route 59, due to its high traffic volumes and high vehicular speeds. The bridge crosses Route 59 between 95th Street and 103rd Street. When completed, the pedestrian bridge will connect to Frontier Park on the east and to the Virgil Gilman trail on the west. For more information on the Route 59 Pedestrian Bridge, or to view construction pictures of the project, visit www.naperville.il.us/pedbridge.aspx [http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001NfGrIwKN3jpPdx3eJd5NUxEKhkxevDv1E1BzZsW-lAeb_Z43GbgW9Etliqlm7rzVjCeUQZ11JmBlOOOZ6LuUN_aOuKBUleVv9FmdX6UZkHRpO3387CQWFj4oA-wSsU6PoiCpROueGvw=]. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thanks for the info D204mom!!!it is always so nice how well informed the people are here  |
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Post by fence on Jun 6, 2008 13:43:29 GMT -6
Steckdad, this is not a binary thing - we don't need to choose between a leader who insults his residents publicly or one who panders to certain areas. DD does not work at Jiffy Lube. He is the superintendant of a school district. And having no "filter" is not an admirable quality for that position, no matter how fun it can be to hear him insult the people you don't agree with. Unfortunately, you may agree with what he says, but the net result is that he is doing damage to a district in which you reside by creating a divide, which is ultimately a liability if you think about it clearly. It is a liability for a leader of a school district to ignore his obligation to communicate and work with residents going through a difficult situation, no matter how much of a pain in the a** he thinks they really are. Some of the residents are about to go through a massive change, and good leaders help to bring about that change in a positive and productive manner, and work to build concensus not separation. This means that they supress their inner monologe for the greater good of the situation. We need a strong, positive leader that understands that he is working alongside a group of passionate, involved (and sometimes difficult) residents that are going through a change and right now, they need someone to help them over the bridge to the world of tomorrow. Theyare difficult to please, but an effective leader does not use barbs and insults to quiet the opposition. He uses communication skills. The problem we have is not as obvious as what people think it to be. It is not a problem of location, boundaries, or taxes or whining people. The problem is one of trust and of communication and in the end, one of relationships. I am not saying that you would quiet every dissenting voice with a positive movement to bring the district together, but trust me, most reasonable people are just looking for information, understanding, and positive, interpersonal communication and a little consideration for some of the good ideas, specifically for tweaking boundaries so no one goes to the farthest school, or improving the safety of the site. If DD would stop flaming off ill-advised memos that divide us, like he did after MGen fell through, or making general calls for an end to the backbiting that he started with his "leadership style" and instead, started taking ACTION toward helping the people impacted by the change see an exciting future for our district and our own kids, we would all benefit. Granted, it wouldn't be as morbidly interesting, but it would be better for everyone. Steckdad, I sure hope you are trying to humor me with your last post. I'm kinda chuckling with the Stonebridge comment... You have a good sense of humor. Trust me, the entitlement shoe doesn't fit me (nor, my neighbors). Yet, I felt it was directed at not only me but my community. I wasn't the only one that felt that way. I'm pretty sure there were 1,200 other homes that felt it was an undeserved "slam". I've wondered, after hearing that comment from Daeschner, who is more prejudiced? Who made an assumption prior to commentary? Who prejudged people? To start an emotionally charged boundary meeting with that? Pretty darn stupid. Wouldn't a certain amount of empathy towards the situation have gone so much further? Nobody in the corporate world, that I've ever known, would be so bold to begin a meeting with such a negative statement. Who in their right mind would do that? And, why? one question macy...why do you think DR D. made that comment? was it from the weeks worth of emails he read before the boundry meeting?(not prior to commentary!) what is your take? and to answer your question. I think Dr. D has no filter and says what he feels.(which I like) If he showed empathy then folks would have slammed him for glad handing certain neighborhoods... Not sure who you work for, but that was a softball compared to what I have witnessed...... |
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Post by snerdley on Jun 6, 2008 14:59:25 GMT -6
Very well said, Fence.
For me the issue is that the SB and Dr. D. pretty much have acted like they can't stand whole areas of the district. I'm not so big on them either...
But the bottom line is that our children, not us, attend the schools. They simply must treat the kids respectfully.
They have done nothing but fan the flames with their talk of emails, their silence while terms like racist were thrown around, and non-factual data was distributed to the entire district.
Our kids are the ones who deal with the fall out of their poor leadership. And that is simply not tolerable.
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Post by concerned2 on Jun 6, 2008 16:10:41 GMT -6
The super's and the SB behavior have made me more of a no voter. I really had a difficult time after I voted no in 06, but my gut told me they were not going to get the land. I will no longer question my no vote. They have disregarded my area and my children. The kids at Scullen are the ones who have been dealing with the most crowded situations and for the kids in the HS nothing has been done for them while our SB played their games with BB and now us taxpayers have to pay for their mistakes. Who knows what other areas might get treated this way next. If doesn't feel good and it will make for more no voters and this district will do no where. We need honesty and hear the truth.
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Post by sardines on Jun 6, 2008 16:50:22 GMT -6
The super's and the SB behavior have made me more of a no voter. I really had a difficult time after I voted no in 06, but my gut told me they were not going to get the land. I will no longer question my no vote. They have disregarded my area and my children. The kids at Scullen are the ones who have been dealing with the most crowded situations and for the kids in the HS nothing has been done for them while our SB played their games with BB and now us taxpayers have to pay for their mistakes. Who knows what other areas might get treated this way next. If doesn't feel good and it will make for more no voters and this district will do no where. We need honesty and hear the truth. Concerned 2, I was wondering why the no vote in 2006 if you were aware of the extreme crowding (especially at Scullen and NV)? I realize you didn't think they would obtain BB but does that mean you were willing to settle for the overcrowding? If the referendum had not passed the SB would have had to do something to relieve the overcrowding and more than likely, this would have meant new boundaries for NV and WV anyway. I do understand why a yes voter would feel betrayed given the assumption of BB and all that came with it, but I can't see how a no voter can be upset that nothing has been done to relieve overcrowding and somehow feel disreguarded geographically by the outcome .  I hope I'm not coming across aggressively. That is not my intent. I truly am trying to understand the viewpoint as I know others have voiced the same sentiments. |
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Post by doctorwho on Jun 6, 2008 17:19:23 GMT -6
The super's and the SB behavior have made me more of a no voter. I really had a difficult time after I voted no in 06, but my gut told me they were not going to get the land. I will no longer question my no vote. They have disregarded my area and my children. The kids at Scullen are the ones who have been dealing with the most crowded situations and for the kids in the HS nothing has been done for them while our SB played their games with BB and now us taxpayers have to pay for their mistakes. Who knows what other areas might get treated this way next. If doesn't feel good and it will make for more no voters and this district will do no where. We need honesty and hear the truth. Concerned 2, I was wondering why the no vote in 2006 if you were aware of the extreme crowding (especially at Scullen and NV)? I realize you didn't think they would obtain BB but does that mean you were willing to settle for the overcrowding? If the referendum had not passed the SB would have had to do something to relieve the overcrowding and more than likely, this would have meant new boundaries for NV and WV anyway. I do understand why a yes voter would feel betrayed given the assumption of BB and all that came with it, but I can't see how a no voter can be upset that nothing has been done to relieve overcrowding and somehow feel disreguarded geographically by the outcome . I hope I'm not coming across aggressively. That is not my intent. I truly am trying to understand the viewpoint as I know others have voiced the same sentiments. I am not attempting to answer for concered- but as to why a no voter would feel that way -- here is what a few no voterrs I know feel: 1/ We were promised in 2001 that the freshman centers would fix this 2./ some No voters i know still felt we needed a 7th MS - just not a HS 3/ One of the reasons for no HS was the fact that the SD had a quote for $13M to add 600 seats to NVHS AND fix the hallway situations The is one SB member who if you wrote her would be able to give you a lot of the details around these issues and potential transactions Don't forget the freshman center openings came as a result of a forecast of the HS's topping out at 8800 students. The survey done this March (2008) now forecasts 8931 for 2013 - the peak - A lot of people, including some who still post on this board occasionally ( and do read it) - strongly supported some of these concepts and poo poo'd the 10,400 estimate from the NIU team. It turns out they were more correct number wise. |
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Post by doctorwho on Jun 6, 2008 17:32:47 GMT -6
Yes NV class size will be larger therefore harder to be in top xx% etc. -- however I would have traded places to be in a complete - fully operational school. It's not like class rank is not important- but ACT - SAT scores are also factors for each individual student - and be aware some strong schools do not even rank the students - Benet being one of them - their students don't seem to find any issue landing where they want.
schools like New Trier stopped reporting class rank and switched to decile ranking - and modified their weighted GPA calcs- etc.
One would have to check with each individual college they want to go to to see how they 'weight' class rank _ it seems to vary widely.
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Post by steckdad on Jun 6, 2008 18:42:35 GMT -6
Steckdad, this is not a binary thing - we don't need to choose between a leader who insults his residents publicly or one who panders to certain areas. DD does not work at Jiffy Lube. He is the superintendant of a school district. And having no "filter" is not an admirable quality for that position, no matter how fun it can be to hear him insult the people you don't agree with. Unfortunately, you may agree with what he says, but the net result is that he is doing damage to a district in which you reside by creating a divide, which is ultimately a liability if you think about it clearly. It is a liability for a leader of a school district to ignore his obligation to communicate and work with residents going through a difficult situation, no matter how much of a pain in the a** he thinks they really are. Some of the residents are about to go through a massive change, and good leaders help to bring about that change in a positive and productive manner, and work to build concensus not separation. This means that they supress their inner monologe for the greater good of the situation. We need a strong, positive leader that understands that he is working alongside a group of passionate, involved (and sometimes difficult) residents that are going through a change and right now, they need someone to help them over the bridge to the world of tomorrow. Theyare difficult to please, but an effective leader does not use barbs and insults to quiet the opposition. He uses communication skills. The problem we have is not as obvious as what people think it to be. It is not a problem of location, boundaries, or taxes or whining people. The problem is one of trust and of communication and in the end, one of relationships. I am not saying that you would quiet every dissenting voice with a positive movement to bring the district together, but trust me, most reasonable people are just looking for information, understanding, and positive, interpersonal communication and a little consideration for some of the good ideas, specifically for tweaking boundaries so no one goes to the farthest school, or improving the safety of the site. If DD would stop flaming off ill-advised memos that divide us, like he did after MGen fell through, or making general calls for an end to the backbiting that he started with his "leadership style" and instead, started taking ACTION toward helping the people impacted by the change see an exciting future for our district and our own kids, we would all benefit. Granted, it wouldn't be as morbidly interesting, but it would be better for everyone. one question macy...why do you think DR D. made that comment? was it from the weeks worth of emails he read before the boundry meeting?(not prior to commentary!) what is your take? and to answer your question. I think Dr. D has no filter and says what he feels.(which I like) If he showed empathy then folks would have slammed him for glad handing certain neighborhoods... Not sure who you work for, but that was a softball compared to what I have witnessed...... fence...point taken...I think in general I tend to always over simplify things...but it works for me! one thing I wanted to mention about Dr d.....having expectations for your school leader is great...I just don't think you should get upset when he doesn't conform to it. Like at swimming classes for my daughter...I would expect that folks put their cell phones on vibrate and leave the viewing area when their phones ring....guess what! I am the only one that follows my expectations.... BTW I am not going to stick up for DD..I just have said I like the fact that he has no filter. |
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Post by macy on Jun 6, 2008 19:03:34 GMT -6
Steckdad,
I was told Dr. D. does have a filter. The district PR person was specifically hired because Daeschner tends to stick his foot in his mouth when dealing with the public.
I guess I'm wondering where the "filter" has been the past few months.
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Post by snerdley on Jun 6, 2008 19:08:37 GMT -6
Macy, it has been filled with yummy pancakes!
(for the rest of you -it's an inside joke - sorry)
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Post by fence on Jun 6, 2008 19:35:39 GMT -6
You're right, I guess I do have high expecations! Unfortunately you're right - people often can't live up to them.... This just seems so unnecessarily painful. A little outreach would go a long way - I just can't believe it would be that difficult. fence...point taken...I think in general I tend to always over simplify things...but it works for me! one thing I wanted to mention about Dr d.....having expectations for your school leader is great...I just don't think you should get upset when he doesn't conform to it. Like at swimming classes for my daughter...I would expect that folks put their cell phones on vibrate and leave the viewing area when their phones ring....guess what! I am the only one that follows my expectations.... BTW I am not going to stick up for DD..I just have said I like the fact that he has no filter. |
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Post by lorip on Jun 6, 2008 19:40:18 GMT -6
Steckdad, I was told Dr. D. does have a filter. The district PR person was specifically hired because Daeschner tends to stick his foot in his mouth when dealing with the public. I guess I'm wondering where the "filter" has been the past few months. Macy, How do you know this to be a fact? This is not what he was specifically hired for, at all. |
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Post by lorip on Jun 6, 2008 19:50:25 GMT -6
[/color] first of all .....I have heard a lot of conspiracy theories here and other places, and none of them hold any water IMO. But you sometimes hear what you want to hear, and when things don't go in one's favor, it just adds to it. secondly, please don't read more into my posts. take them for face value. I try to post my opinions exactly.....nothing makes me more crazy than posting a comment and the getting a reply like "so you are saying.....etc" [/quote] First of all, if your area had been treated as our's was, you would probably feel differently. But I guess "things went in your favor" as you say. Secondly, this is no conspiracy theory. We never saw the proof of any such emails they referred to. Even if they exist, so what? This is America and people are "entitled" pursuant to the first amendment to say what they want. We may disagree with their words, but to use something someone said to set an agenda for the district would be wrong. I'm sure they received some equally offensive emails from other areas - but we didn't hear about those.To make blanket statements clearly upset large numbers of people. They will continue to be upset until someone apologizes. And I am taking your posts at face value. It seems clear to me that you feel we're just supposed to "take it". Well, I won't. This district will lose some good families and good kids because of they way we have been treated. [/quote] I don't recall anyone mentioning any specific area with the "entitlement" comment. Just that there were many comments/emails that spoke of an implied entitlement. Did anyone specifically mention an area? I'm sure someone will review the video to correct me if I'm wrong. This has nothing to do with whether the comment was right or wrong, just that I don't think any area was specifically mentioned. |
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Post by Arch on Jun 6, 2008 20:08:30 GMT -6
DrD's opening comment was generic, but there were other comments either in that or other prior meetings from both speakers (mentioning emails floating around the 'south side') and board members (BG being one) about people not wanting to go to WB, and the comments on the web survey, etc.
..those are my recollections anyway
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Post by lorip on Jun 6, 2008 20:10:24 GMT -6
DrD's opening comment was generic, but there were other comments either in that or other prior meetings from both speakers (mentioning emails floating around the 'south side') and board members (BG being one) about people not wanting to go to WB, and the comments on the web survey, etc. ..those are my recollections anyway Yes, those I remember, but the "entitlement" comment from Dr. D was what I was referring to and not directed to any area. I thought that's what was in question. Sorry if I misread that. |
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I hope I'm not coming across aggressively. That is not my intent. I truly am trying to understand the viewpoint as I know others have voiced the same sentiments.
