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Post by wvhsparent on Oct 23, 2007 9:30:52 GMT -6
Version 2 of our unscientific poll V1 is locked as being faulty.
If you don't give a hoot on way or the other, just say so in the comments.
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Post by gatormom on Oct 23, 2007 9:48:16 GMT -6
Until I know where my child is going to high school, I don't especially care about this issue. Is that selfish? Yes. Do I care? No.
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Post by momof3 on Oct 23, 2007 10:00:24 GMT -6
Do I agree with Gatormom? Yes. Do I like being a question talker, too? You betcha!
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Post by rew on Oct 23, 2007 10:14:18 GMT -6
Ditto, Gatormom
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Post by blankcheck on Oct 23, 2007 10:23:23 GMT -6
Why are they even bringing this up now when there is a much more important issue at hand. Incredible!! They pay all that $$$ for BB you can forget AC etc.
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Post by rew on Oct 23, 2007 10:39:13 GMT -6
BC, Are you telling me that if they choose a cheaper site, you will support an 08 referendum?? Come on...
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Post by momto4 on Oct 23, 2007 10:40:27 GMT -6
Why are they even bringing this up now when there is a much more important issue at hand. Incredible!! They pay all that $$$ for BB you can forget AC etc. This wasn't brought up now, it was brought up over a month ago and before the jury's verdict was known. Last month tasks were assigned and reports were due back at last night's meeting. I'm sure they would be taken to task for dropping the ball on this important health issue were it not discussed as planned. I doubt that discussing a/c has taken anything away from the MV discussions. They are entirely separate issues. Due to the MV issues this seems like the worst possible time to poll the public on their opinions regarding a/c for the schools. Especially when there has been fairly little press about the serious health and learning issues with the lack of a/c.
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Post by Arch on Oct 23, 2007 10:44:33 GMT -6
Lack of press coverage does not indicate lack of a problem.
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Post by momto4 on Oct 23, 2007 10:49:28 GMT -6
Lack of press coverage does not indicate lack of a problem. Agreed. Lack of press coverage can lead to lack of knowledge about the topic for many voters. Some people change their stance when faced with the facts about classroom temps and the very real impact on both learning and health of the students and staff.
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Post by wvhsparent on Oct 23, 2007 10:59:45 GMT -6
Lack of press coverage does not indicate lack of a problem. True, but lack of coverage will lead to lack of support by the masses
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Post by Arch on Oct 23, 2007 11:09:19 GMT -6
Lack of press coverage does not indicate lack of a problem. True, but lack of coverage will lead to lack of support by the masses So will crap coverage. It bugs me that people can turn a health issue and spin it off as some people just whining. Also, (for example) to say that parents can't take time off work to stay home w/ kids on really bad days does more harm than good because it makes the parent sound like a selfish ***** who won't care for their child. While it may be true that keeping one's source of income for the family may rely on not missing a day of work, it just 'sounds' bad. As more children are starting to have more problems w/ their lungs and allergies, this is not an issue that will just 'go away'. It's cheaper to nip it in the bud NOW versus a few more years down the line where the cost will be even higher. I definitely concede the point though, the timing sucks.
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Post by rew on Oct 23, 2007 11:24:13 GMT -6
The other point that needs to be made, is that now so many of our schools are used over the summer....have you ever been inside the schools in July or August...YIKES! Yes, it needs to be done, but we need to get the third HS built first! I would say leave it to the 09 op ref. People who support the third HS will vote YES, people who support the teachers will vote YES and people who want AC will vote YES and we won't have to worry about Blankcheck's NO vote.
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Post by casey on Oct 23, 2007 11:45:02 GMT -6
Yes, the timing on the whole AC issue sucks. I feel sorry for those persons that continue to pursue this issue - their issue gets completely overlooked and devalued in light of the 3rd HS mess.
We all would probably agee that AC would be nice to have (maybe even critical) but the main problem is the cost. I'm not sure that the taxpayers will support paying for such an undertaking. IMHO, the only way I can see it having any chance of passing would be to pack it in with the 09 Referendum. It may be smart PR work on the part of the SB. Many of the AC people would come out in strong numbers (if there are strong numbers) to support it which may be some new support to the original referendum. Who knows but unfortunately, I think the AC backers are facing a strong uphill battle.
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Post by doctorwho on Oct 23, 2007 11:45:21 GMT -6
True, but lack of coverage will lead to lack of support by the masses So will crap coverage. It bugs me that people can turn a health issue and spin it off as some people just whining. Also, (for example) to say that parents can't take time off work to stay home w/ kids on really bad days does more harm than good because it makes the parent sound like a selfish ***** who won't care for their child. While it may be true that keeping one's source of income for the family may rely on not missing a day of work, it just 'sounds' bad. As more children are starting to have more problems w/ their lungs and allergies, this is not an issue that will just 'go away'. It's cheaper to nip it in the bud NOW versus a few more years down the line where the cost will be even higher. I definitely concede the point though, the timing sucks. To be fair - In this case the person who made the comment on not being able to alter schedules at the drop of a hat is a cardiologist who is on call and has appointments. If I needed her services I wouldn;t want to hear she had to leave early because they decided to close school an hour early today - or open it at a different time. Her husband is a pediatrician who likely has before school hours to see sick children.I think she was referring more to having a set schedule - as it would be for anyone. I think the swap of start times for ES and HS had some merit until this can be rectified. The impact will be on after school activities - and late hours.
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Post by doctorwho on Oct 23, 2007 11:51:57 GMT -6
Yes, the timing on the whole AC issue sucks. I feel sorry for those persons that continue to pursue this issue - their issue gets completely overlooked and devalued in light of the 3rd HS mess. We all would probably agee that AC would be nice to have (maybe even critical) but the main problem is the cost. I'm not sure that the taxpayers will support paying for such an undertaking. IMHO, the only way I can see it having any chance of passing would be to pack it in with the 09 Referendum. It may be smart PR work on the part of the SB. Many of the AC people would come out in strong numbers (if there are strong numbers) to support it which may be some new support to the original referendum. Who knows but unfortunately, I think the AC backers are facing a strong uphill battle. I believe the random survey of previous voters will be a good indictator. As the price continues to escalate for A/C and timeframes like 5 years to complete installs are still being thrown around, I also agree it verymuch an uphill battle. Also bundling is not a bad move- but -- I would make sure it was on a ballot when there is no general election - just school issue so that the A/C supporters vote would make more difference. If put up say in a presidentail election cycle - it would face more of the built in NO vote for any tax increase - IMHO
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