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Post by slp on Feb 26, 2009 13:45:05 GMT -6
Honestly, I am offended (AGAIN) by this email. It just makes it so obvious that the Admin / SB believe they are dealing with unintelligent parents. Give me a break! We have all read the newspapers and watched the news coverage on this. We KNOW the father of the accused was forced by the inaction of this Admin. / SB to sign that document to protect his son to the best of his LEGAL ability. Seriously . Dr. D. really thinks we all are stupid. Spin all you want to Dr. D. It is the parents responsibility to go any length he can through the police and court system to rectify the situation. not the SD. the parents and others are letting emotions run amok and projecting onto the school board...others who are SB "haters" are using any piece of info they can get and are spinning it in a direction to bolster that feeling. The district has said what their stand is from a legal perspective at the meeting as well as sending out a press release later to answer parent's concerns. How dare you! You are blindly supporting this sb no matter what they do! Curt Bradshaw is the only member who deserves your support.
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Post by concerned2 on Feb 26, 2009 14:28:30 GMT -6
Honestly, I am offended (AGAIN) by this email. It just makes it so obvious that the Admin / SB believe they are dealing with unintelligent parents. Give me a break! We have all read the newspapers and watched the news coverage on this. We KNOW the father of the accused was forced by the inaction of this Admin. / SB to sign that document to protect his son to the best of his LEGAL ability. Seriously . Dr. D. really thinks we all are stupid. Spin all you want to Dr. D. It is the parents responsibility to go any length he can through the police and court system to rectify the situation. not the SD. the parents and others are letting emotions run amok and projecting onto the school board...others who are SB "haters" are using any piece of info they can get and are spinning it in a direction to bolster that feeling. The district has said what their stand is from a legal perspective at the meeting as well as sending out a press release later to answer parent's concerns. Are you forgetting that one of the boys attacked the victim at school the next day. THIS WAS ON SCHOOL GROUNDS and this administration and SB did nothing and to blame the victim and this family is UNBELIEVABLE!!!
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Post by jftb on Feb 26, 2009 14:37:18 GMT -6
I realize that I may be just a little too close to this situation knowing the family as I do, but seriously sir, if you are as close to the school board as you seem to be, then you know full well that the parents in this situation were asking for the school to remove the attackers (who admit, by the way, to what they did) from day one. It is not that big a stretch to ask this. As stated before, 203 has a policy in place to remove alleged sexual offenders until trial. I do understand that 204 did not have such policy in place, but sir, do you not agree that we should be quickly getting such a policy now? We now see the ramifications of NOT having this policy. Why wait? And why treat this family so poorly? Why make them feel worse than they already do? This district is being run by old-fashioned school yard bullies. Heartless, old-fashioned school yard bullies. Please tell the family that our hearts go out to them and that the MAJORITY of people in this district can see through this ridiculous and self-serving email. I absolutely will, and that will mean a lot to them. You can show your support by attending the board meeting on March 9th.
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Post by thewolf on Feb 26, 2009 15:08:45 GMT -6
Honestly, I am offended (AGAIN) by this email. It just makes it so obvious that the Admin / SB believe they are dealing with unintelligent parents. Give me a break! We have all read the newspapers and watched the news coverage on this. We KNOW the father of the accused was forced by the inaction of this Admin. / SB to sign that document to protect his son to the best of his LEGAL ability. Seriously . Dr. D. really thinks we all are stupid. Spin all you want to Dr. D. According to them, We is too dumbs to read a ballot. Why not? They have put it over on the taxpayers again and again. The Brooklyn Bridge could be sold in #204. Dash coming from a big city SD knew he could get away with anything here. And he has.
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Post by refbasics on Feb 26, 2009 15:11:31 GMT -6
Dr. D likes to point out that [glow=red,2,300]the incident took place outside of school[/glow]. Fine. Did the misdemeanor assualt the following day occur on school grounds as reported, or did it, too, occur outside of school? I agree that they are walking a fine line and it's a difficult situation, but their pattern of behavior never changes. Remember the flasher at Nequa -- no mention until a parent went to the press --long after the district knew about it. The result of disclosure, a quick arrest. The advantage of no disclosure -- keep up appearances and risk a more serious incident. The situation here may be more supportive of the district's approach, but the falsher incident was all on school property and didn't involve a minor and didn't involve Dr. D. Still the board did what they did this time -- nothing until forced by the parents and press. The evidence is clear. The board has to be changed dramatically. ---------------------- THIS incident took place outside of school... i would not be surprised if these 2 boys had bullying incidents with this victim, or other victims, BEFORE this current one. AT THE VERY LEAST, these 2 boys are bullies.. and i bet their bullying behavior just didn't start up in november!
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Post by steckdad on Feb 26, 2009 15:16:41 GMT -6
It is the parents responsibility to go any length he can through the police and court system to rectify the situation. not the SD. the parents and others are letting emotions run amok and projecting onto the school board...others who are SB "haters" are using any piece of info they can get and are spinning it in a direction to bolster that feeling. The district has said what their stand is from a legal perspective at the meeting as well as sending out a press release later to answer parent's concerns. So then you believe they have done all they can do correctly- and the super's knowing in November and it being addressed in February is OK by you ? Also refusing to meet with the parents ? Want to make sure I'm not 'projecting' And why I absolutely agree that parents OWN responsibility for everything with their child- we pay HUGE property taxes for our education school district - there are things they are responsible for also - safety in the classroom would be one of those...so I am not ready to absolve them of any responsibility doc...there is not a lot of solid information out there to go off. there also is a lot of hearsay and rumor. All I have to go by is what is on public record. You don't know that nothing was done till february and DD just sent you a message saying otherwise. Did you want an email from DD in november warning all the parents there was an "alleged attack outside of the school, but don't worry we are taking care of it?"
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Post by steckdad on Feb 26, 2009 15:20:52 GMT -6
It is the parents responsibility to go any length he can through the police and court system to rectify the situation. not the SD. the parents and others are letting emotions run amok and projecting onto the school board...others who are SB "haters" are using any piece of info they can get and are spinning it in a direction to bolster that feeling. The district has said what their stand is from a legal perspective at the meeting as well as sending out a press release later to answer parent's concerns. I realize that I may be just a little too close to this situation knowing the family as I do, but seriously sir, if you are as close to the school board as you seem to be, then you know full well that the parents in this situation were asking for the school to remove the attackers (who admit, by the way, to what they did) from day one. It is not that big a stretch to ask this. As stated before, 203 has a policy in place to remove alleged sexual offenders until trial. I do understand that 204 did not have such policy in place, but sir, do you not agree that we should be quickly getting such a policy now? We now see the ramifications of NOT having this policy. Why wait? And why treat this family so poorly? Why make them feel worse than they already do? first of all this is exactly what I am talking about public record and a post on a web site. The information you posted over the last couple days is not public record. I am not calling you a liar by any means, but realize any one can post anything here.. second of all this is not a policy issue but a legal one....
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Post by doctorwho on Feb 26, 2009 15:22:54 GMT -6
So then you believe they have done all they can do correctly- and the super's knowing in November and it being addressed in February is OK by you ? Also refusing to meet with the parents ? Want to make sure I'm not 'projecting' And why I absolutely agree that parents OWN responsibility for everything with their child- we pay HUGE property taxes for our education school district - there are things they are responsible for also - safety in the classroom would be one of those...so I am not ready to absolve them of any responsibility doc...there is not a lot of solid information out there to go off. there also is a lot of hearsay and rumor. All I have to go by is what is on public record. You don't know that nothing was done till february and DD just sent you a message saying otherwise. Did you want an email from DD in november warning all the parents there was an "alleged attack outside of the school, but don't worry we are taking care of it?" What about the follow up attack the next day in school - after a felonius encounter - you skipped over that. Of course so did the note sent out. I am going by what the father said in the meeting - that IS public record - are you saying he lied ?
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Post by steckdad on Feb 26, 2009 15:23:32 GMT -6
It is the parents responsibility to go any length he can through the police and court system to rectify the situation. not the SD. the parents and others are letting emotions run amok and projecting onto the school board...others who are SB "haters" are using any piece of info they can get and are spinning it in a direction to bolster that feeling. The district has said what their stand is from a legal perspective at the meeting as well as sending out a press release later to answer parent's concerns. How dare you! You are blindly supporting this sb no matter what they do! Curt Bradshaw is the only member who deserves your support. thanks for your input, but I can support whatever I like. and If you read prior posts from myself you will not see support for individuals per se, but support for the process
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Post by steckdad on Feb 26, 2009 15:24:59 GMT -6
It is the parents responsibility to go any length he can through the police and court system to rectify the situation. not the SD. the parents and others are letting emotions run amok and projecting onto the school board...others who are SB "haters" are using any piece of info they can get and are spinning it in a direction to bolster that feeling. The district has said what their stand is from a legal perspective at the meeting as well as sending out a press release later to answer parent's concerns. Are you forgetting that one of the boys attacked the victim at school the next day. THIS WAS ON SCHOOL GROUNDS and this administration and SB did nothing and to blame the victim and this family is UNBELIEVABLE!!! not sure if we know if the boy was disciplined for the attack the day after?
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Post by steckdad on Feb 26, 2009 15:28:34 GMT -6
doc...there is not a lot of solid information out there to go off. there also is a lot of hearsay and rumor. All I have to go by is what is on public record. You don't know that nothing was done till february and DD just sent you a message saying otherwise. Did you want an email from DD in november warning all the parents there was an "alleged attack outside of the school, but don't worry we are taking care of it?" What about the follow up attack the next day in school - after a felonious encounter - you skipped over that. Of course so did the note sent out. I am going by what the father said in the meeting - that IS public record - are you saying he lied ? no ..just one sided. and it was an alleged felonious encounter...which has shown to be not real important information to most posters on the subject.
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Post by doctorwho on Feb 26, 2009 15:33:52 GMT -6
What about the follow up attack the next day in school - after a felonious encounter - you skipped over that. Of course so did the note sent out. I am going by what the father said in the meeting - that IS public record - are you saying he lied ? no ..just one sided. and it was an alleged felonious encounter...which has shown to be not real important information to most posters on the subject. well if the kids have already admitted to it - it is slightly more than alleged ( except in the courts ) isn't it ?
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Post by steckdad on Feb 26, 2009 15:38:32 GMT -6
no ..just one sided. and it was an alleged felonious encounter...which has shown to be not real important information to most posters on the subject. well if the kids have already admitted to it - it is slightly more than alleged ( except in the courts ) isn't it ? who said the kids admitted it?
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Post by doctorwho on Feb 26, 2009 15:43:57 GMT -6
well if the kids have already admitted to it - it is slightly more than alleged ( except in the courts ) isn't it ? who said the kids admitted it? why I used the work 'if' - as I've read that in multiple places- but I do not have court docs.
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Post by southsidemom on Feb 26, 2009 15:55:11 GMT -6
It is the parents responsibility to go any length he can through the police and court system to rectify the situation. not the SD. the parents and others are letting emotions run amok and projecting onto the school board...others who are SB "haters" are using any piece of info they can get and are spinning it in a direction to bolster that feeling. The district has said what their stand is from a legal perspective at the meeting as well as sending out a press release later to answer parent's concerns. How dare you! You are blindly supporting this sb no matter what they do! Curt Bradshaw is the only member who deserves your support. Steckdad - your comment is amusing to me. Let me see how you would have wanted it handled if it were your child that had such a horrific act done to him/her. I don't wish this nightmare on anyone....but wonder what would be happening now if this were one of the SB member's children. Oh I know for sure it would be playing out alot different. Don't you believe otherwise.
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