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Post by researching on May 21, 2009 16:32:13 GMT -6
Ditto for NV kids moving to WV. One situation I have heard of involves a Class of 2013 student bound for WV. This student tried out and made a team at WV. All of the sudden this student's parents are getting *cough-cough* divorced and one parent will reside in the WV district the other will reside in the NV district. That student then tried out for the same team at NV and made it. Let's do the translation. Said student tries out and makes a team at WV. The family decides that they really don't want to go to the oldest high school in the district. They want their child to go to NV, the school they always thought they were going to. They fake a divorce (real divorce but on paper only), rent an apartment, keep their current house and deal with it for 4 years. Said student graduates, they re-marry, give up the apartment and all is well in their world. ETA - I don't think the district can do ANYTHING to prevent the above from occurring. If the family can afford to do that, it is up to them. Also, from a legal stand point, the district shouldn't touch it. Remember, they said they couldn't "legally" do anything about rapists attending school with their victim. Wow. Teaching your kids how to "beat the system" . What wonderful role models those parents are.  On another note, I have heard that the school district is going to try and crack down on the "illegal" people that are not supposed to be in our district-those coming from Dist. 131 or 129. I hope they are able to do that. I completely agree on both points. Even if something isn't technically illegal it isn't always within my personally acceptable moral parameters. That's not to say that I see this situation as black and white. It has many shades of gray. The sibling issue and environmental concerns are pretty gray to me. As for out of district imposters...that's a no brainer and should have been addressed LONG ago. |
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Post by researching on May 21, 2009 16:41:31 GMT -6
Legally correct, maybe. Morally correct....  ? I guess it just floors me that someone thinks that lowly of WV to pay $15,000+ a year for an apartment so they can "legally" beat the system. Just perpetuates the incorrect perceived differences between the two schools and also teaches your kids that it's OK to buy your way out of a problem. I sure hope these parents won't be the ones that complain about their school portion of their taxes while shelling out rent each month. To be honest, I have more sympathy for the poor people out of district that are being illegal trying to get their kids a better education than those folks that feel they are too good to go to WV. Sorry, I'll get off my high horse now. I don't think you are on your high horse. I think you're right on target. However, I don't believe that this is a parent driven problem only. I read through some of the WVHS Booster meeting minutes. It seems that there have been inequities between the high schools for some time now. Probably dating back to the day NV opened. WVHS is just now getting the school store that NV has had for how long? MV is opening with a school store. The Admin./SB have done VERY little to help the situation. |
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Post by slp on May 21, 2009 17:05:47 GMT -6
Sounds like the change from the BB site to AME! legal but not moral or the 'right' thing to do... IMO! |
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Post by Arch on May 21, 2009 17:12:19 GMT -6
Exactly, slp... the tone has been set from the top down.
If people don't like the tone, then come next election, it's time to change the top.
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Post by researching on May 21, 2009 19:00:45 GMT -6
Sounds like the change from the BB site to AME! legal but not moral or the 'right' thing to do... IMO! Bingo! The Admin./SB should be the example. Obviously they have been. |
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Post by EagleDad on May 21, 2009 19:02:15 GMT -6
Exactly, slp... the tone has been set from the top down. If people don't like the tone, then come next election, it's time to change the top. If people don't like the tone, they can also sit down and shut up. |
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Post by EagleDad on May 21, 2009 19:04:41 GMT -6
Legally correct, maybe. Morally correct.... ? Do you mean like legally hiding behind excuses to do nothing to prevent a victim from encountering their rapist on a daily basis? Or is that morally correct? Needless to say our fine district rototilled morality in favor of legality a long time ago. |
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Post by doctorwho on May 21, 2009 19:37:38 GMT -6
Legally correct, maybe. Morally correct.... ? I guess it just floors me that someone thinks that lowly of WV to pay $15,000+ a year for an apartment so they can "legally" beat the system. Just perpetuates the incorrect perceived differences between the two schools and also teaches your kids that it's OK to buy your way out of a problem. I sure hope these parents won't be the ones that complain about their school portion of their taxes while shelling out rent each month. To be honest, I have more sympathy for the poor people out of district that are being illegal trying to get their kids a better education than those folks that feel they are too good to go to WV. Sorry, I'll get off my high horse now. what about the person who does it because they want their kids to be in the same school ? What about someone who does it so that their kid can either compete in a sport they may have been trainign for for 10 year - or compete at the proper level ? Not everyone hates WVHS that will do this -- ( yes I know there are a few that do - I have no sympathy for them ) -- I would have been perfectly thrilled to have WVHS be our school - that was taken away from us by those trying to balance what they think a school should look like vs what was right transportation wise and travel wise. They had the 'legal right to do what they did ( said the courts) - and they did, so I fail to see how one is worse than the other |
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Post by doctorwho on May 21, 2009 19:40:05 GMT -6
Legally correct, maybe. Morally correct.... ? I guess it just floors me that someone thinks that lowly of WV to pay $15,000+ a year for an apartment so they can "legally" beat the system. Just perpetuates the incorrect perceived differences between the two schools and also teaches your kids that it's OK to buy your way out of a problem. I sure hope these parents won't be the ones that complain about their school portion of their taxes while shelling out rent each month. To be honest, I have more sympathy for the poor people out of district that are being illegal trying to get their kids a better education than those folks that feel they are too good to go to WV. Sorry, I'll get off my high horse now. I don't think you are on your high horse. I think you're right on target. However, I don't believe that this is a parent driven problem only. I read through some of the WVHS Booster meeting minutes. It seems that there have been inequities between the high schools for some time now. Probably dating back to the day NV opened. WVHS is just now getting the school store that NV has had for how long? MV is opening with a school store. The Admin./SB have done VERY little to help the situation. they have done lip service only to WVHS - and remember this when they shutter the doors- and they will. Maybe that's why they pulled areas out of there that wanted to be there - and an area that always had a huge volunteer base there -- |
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Post by sportsmom on May 22, 2009 12:03:33 GMT -6
Renting apartments, buying foreclosed homes, getting divorced, planning a legal separation...just a few solutions I have heard. How in the heck will the district be able to keep track of this? Also, isn't it within an individuals rights to do any of the above? IMO I view the above solutions as unacceptable to myself and my family. Because I am so strongly against moving the Class of 2012 I have considered them all. I couldn't imagine getting divorced or separated just so my child can go to a school that doesn't even want us anyway. The situation must be extreme to justify it. What are we teaching our kids if we do any of the above? It's not like we are talking about inner-city Chicago schools compared to New Trier. The real exception would be in relation to MV. The district has not yet proven that the site is completely safe or at least as environmental safe as WV and NV. The safety risks could definitely be classified as extreme. However, I don't think that too many WV families moving to MV are really the issue. The families that I have encountered (AWAY FROM THIS MESSAGE BOARD) that are moving from WV to MV truly believe that the environmental hazards are being blown waaaaay out of proportion by people disgruntled with the boundaries. Obviously I disagree. WOW! As a WVHS parent of 2010, 2014 and 2016 I take great offense to your statement that WVHS doesn't want the kids that are coming from NVHS. I have personally gone out of my way to try to include current 9th graders who will be coming over - I was also involved in Middle school night for the football players and Scullen kids and families were very welcomed. |
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Post by sportsmom on May 22, 2009 12:11:16 GMT -6
I know many destined for MV who are making (or have already made) other HS plans for their kids. Ditto for NV kids moving to WV. One situation I have heard of involves a Class of 2013 student bound for WV. This student tried out and made a team at WV. All of the sudden this student's parents are getting *cough-cough* divorced and one parent will reside in the WV district the other will reside in the NV district. That student then tried out for the same team at NV and made it. Let's do the translation. Said student tries out and makes a team at WV. The family decides that they really don't want to go to the oldest high school in the district. They want their child to go to NV, the school they always thought they were going to. They fake a divorce (real divorce but on paper only), rent an apartment, keep their current house and deal with it for 4 years. Said student graduates, they re-marry, give up the apartment and all is well in their world. ETA - I don't think the district can do ANYTHING to prevent the above from occurring. If the family can afford to do that, it is up to them. Also, from a legal stand point, the district shouldn't touch it. Remember, they said they couldn't "legally" do anything about rapists attending school with their victim. Enlighten me here....you are talking about a current 8th grader (class of 2013) ? The only try outs that have occurred for 8th graders is at the cheerleading, Poms and maybe color guard level. Are you telling me this kid made both the WV and NV CHEERLEADING squads and now the parents are doing this divorce thing so their kid can be a freshman cheerleader/pom/color guard at NV? ? You've got to be kidding me. The reality is: NVHS class size will be higher than WVHS. The opportunities at WVHS will be far greater than NVHS. Just because an 8th grader makes a team at NV as a freshman there is no guarantee they will make it at the Vasrity level. If fact, the odds of playing at the Varsity level are greater at WVHS than NVHS purely due to numbers. This family is certifiable. I can only imagine how they meddle in other areas of their kids' lives. It is their kids that I feel truly sorry for. They will have a hard time making a 'go' of it in the real world. |
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Post by slp on May 22, 2009 12:26:57 GMT -6
Renting apartments, buying foreclosed homes, getting divorced, planning a legal separation...just a few solutions I have heard. How in the heck will the district be able to keep track of this? Also, isn't it within an individuals rights to do any of the above? IMO I view the above solutions as unacceptable to myself and my family. Because I am so strongly against moving the Class of 2012 I have considered them all. I couldn't imagine getting divorced or separated just so my child can go to a school that doesn't even want us anyway. The situation must be extreme to justify it. What are we teaching our kids if we do any of the above? It's not like we are talking about inner-city Chicago schools compared to New Trier. The real exception would be in relation to MV. The district has not yet proven that the site is completely safe or at least as environmental safe as WV and NV. The safety risks could definitely be classified as extreme. However, I don't think that too many WV families moving to MV are really the issue. The families that I have encountered (AWAY FROM THIS MESSAGE BOARD) that are moving from WV to MV truly believe that the environmental hazards are being blown waaaaay out of proportion by people disgruntled with the boundaries. Obviously I disagree. WOW! As a WVHS parent of 2010, 2014 and 2016 I take great offense to your statement that WVHS doesn't want the kids that are coming from NVHS. I have personally gone out of my way to try to include current 9th graders who will be coming over - I was also involved in Middle school night for the football players and Scullen kids and families were very welcomed. If anything , it may be the parents we don't want, but no one ever said we didn't want the kids. sportsmom, the red highlighted comment meant that NVHS doesn't want them...Not WVHS. That's how I read it anyway. I think WVHS parents, faculty, and students have thus far made our 8th graders feel very welcome. We are excited to begin in the fall. |
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Post by rew on May 22, 2009 12:28:54 GMT -6
I read the quote as meaning that NV does not want the kid staying, sportsmom.
But it's nice to know you don't want the parents.
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Post by researching on May 22, 2009 13:06:28 GMT -6
Renting apartments, buying foreclosed homes, getting divorced, planning a legal separation...just a few solutions I have heard. How in the heck will the district be able to keep track of this? Also, isn't it within an individuals rights to do any of the above? IMO I view the above solutions as unacceptable to myself and my family. Because I am so strongly against moving the Class of 2012 I have considered them all. I couldn't imagine getting divorced or separated just so my child can go to a school that doesn't even want us anyway. The situation must be extreme to justify it. What are we teaching our kids if we do any of the above? It's not like we are talking about inner-city Chicago schools compared to New Trier. The real exception would be in relation to MV. The district has not yet proven that the site is completely safe or at least as environmental safe as WV and NV. The safety risks could definitely be classified as extreme. However, I don't think that too many WV families moving to MV are really the issue. The families that I have encountered (AWAY FROM THIS MESSAGE BOARD) that are moving from WV to MV truly believe that the environmental hazards are being blown waaaaay out of proportion by people disgruntled with the boundaries. Obviously I disagree. WOW! As a WVHS parent of 2010, 2014 and 2016 I take great offense to your statement that WVHS doesn't want the kids that are coming from NVHS. I have personally gone out of my way to try to include current 9th graders who will be coming over - I was also involved in Middle school night for the football players and Scullen kids and families were very welcomed. If anything , it may be the parents we don't want, but no one ever said we didn't want the kids. Thanks for the backup slp and rew. You were correct in how you read my statement. Ok. I thought I was pretty clear that I was actually speaking about the NV parents not wanting us but it appears by your statement Sportsmom, WV doesn't either. Sorry but the parents come with the kids, it's a package deal and for someone who believes they have done everything possible to "include current 9th graders" and goes out of their way to make sure the "families were very welcomed" your parting comment doesn't show that. I have posted again and again how wonderful the WV staff and Boosters have been to my family. I have also posted that I have personally heard NV parents comment that "they couldn't wait to get these White Eagle and Tall Grass people out of here". I posted that last year. Some NV parents are under the impression that with us gone their children will have more opportunities. Put yourself in our shoes. Some NV parents can't wait until we go and some WV parents will take our kids but don't want the parents. How would you feel? I am betting it's not welcomed. |
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Post by sportsmom on May 22, 2009 13:06:43 GMT -6
I read the quote as meaning that NV does not want the kid staying, sportsmom. But it's nice to know you don't want the parents. Ha! I did misread it. Understand I thought there was a story out there that WVHS didn't want the kids. (But why does NVHS not want the kids?? Admin, teachers or other parents??) Of course I was very offended by that and inapporpiately blamed the parents - as we all know the kids will be fine. I do apologize!!!! I want any and all parents at WVHS that want to be at WVHS. We don't need any more negativity at Waubonsie. |
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