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Post by researching on May 21, 2009 13:47:29 GMT -6
Dear High School Parents of District #204, School district boundaries have changed for many of our families and some of our student athletes will be changing their high school attendance for next fall. The athletic departments would like to clarify rules regarding this summer team camps and league participation. All summer high school team leagues and team camps are designated for a specific high school. They are open to ONLY those students that are enrolled in classes at that specific high school. Team camps and team leagues are considered contact days and are counted as part of the approved 25 contact days by the Illinois High School Association. In addition to team sports camps and leagues, early tryouts for next years pom-poms, cheer, orchesis, drill teams, platinum dance programs, etc… will only be opened to students enrolled at the designated high school for next fall.
If a student is NOT enrolled in classes at a specific high school, they may NOT participate in team camps and team leagues at a previously attended high school.
Enrollment for a specific boundary high school is allowed with proper verification of residency. This includes and not limited to: lease, mortgage, rental agreement, utility bills, drivers’ license, tax bill, etc… at the specific address within the schools boundaries. Student enrollment is done through the Guidance Department within each high school within the district.
During the school year, the I.H.S.A. also requires students participating in high school sports to not only live in the appropriate designated boundaries set by the school district, but also requires that each student athlete physically live with their natural parents or court appointed legal guardian verified by judge signed documentation. A student living with extended family or friends does NOT automatically grant I.H.S.A. eligibility. Family situations other than children living with their natural parents must be brought to the attention of the athletic director to be reviewed and/or submitted to the I.H.S.A. for consideration of eligibility. Being an enrolled student at a designated high school, does not automatically allow a student to be eligible to participate in I.H.S.A. sports. Please see your Athletic Director for further questions.
Barb Barrows Athletic Director Neuqua Valley High School 630-428-6849
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Post by slp on May 21, 2009 13:51:42 GMT -6
what about leasing an apartment across the street from NVHS so that your child can attend NVHS? Where does that fall?
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Post by Arch on May 21, 2009 13:55:28 GMT -6
I believe IHSA actually leaves that up to the district to decide, so this sounds like a pre-emptive strike of 'pass the buck' and 'we hope you swallow it and don't actually check out the real rules and call our BS'.
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Post by sashimi on May 21, 2009 14:08:34 GMT -6
The District called the IHSA and the ISHA confirmed that they are not going to maintain the route 59 street bridge.
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Post by researching on May 21, 2009 15:06:28 GMT -6
Renting apartments, buying foreclosed homes, getting divorced, planning a legal separation...just a few solutions I have heard. How in the heck will the district be able to keep track of this? Also, isn't it within an individuals rights to do any of the above?
IMO I view the above solutions as unacceptable to myself and my family. Because I am so strongly against moving the Class of 2012 I have considered them all. I couldn't imagine getting divorced or separated just so my child can go to a school that doesn't even want us anyway. The situation must be extreme to justify it. What are we teaching our kids if we do any of the above? It's not like we are talking about inner-city Chicago schools compared to New Trier.
The real exception would be in relation to MV. The district has not yet proven that the site is completely safe or at least as environmental safe as WV and NV. The safety risks could definitely be classified as extreme. However, I don't think that too many WV families moving to MV are really the issue. The families that I have encountered (AWAY FROM THIS MESSAGE BOARD) that are moving from WV to MV truly believe that the environmental hazards are being blown waaaaay out of proportion by people disgruntled with the boundaries. Obviously I disagree.
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Post by doctorwho on May 21, 2009 15:10:31 GMT -6
Dear High School Parents of District #204, School district boundaries have changed for many of our families and some of our student athletes will be changing their high school attendance for next fall. The athletic departments would like to clarify rules regarding this summer team camps and league participation. All summer high school team leagues and team camps are designated for a specific high school. They are open to ONLY those students that are enrolled in classes at that specific high school. Team camps and team leagues are considered contact days and are counted as part of the approved 25 contact days by the Illinois High School Association. In addition to team sports camps and leagues, early tryouts for next years pom-poms, cheer, orchesis, drill teams, platinum dance programs, etc… will only be opened to students enrolled at the designated high school for next fall. If a student is NOT enrolled in classes at a specific high school, they may NOT participate in team camps and team leagues at a previously attended high school. Enrollment for a specific boundary high school is allowed with proper verification of residency. This includes and not limited to: lease, mortgage, rental agreement, utility bills, drivers’ license, tax bill, etc… at the specific address within the schools boundaries. Student enrollment is done through the Guidance Department within each high school within the district. During the school year, the I.H.S.A. also requires students participating in high school sports to not only live in the appropriate designated boundaries set by the school district, but also requires that each student athlete physically live with their natural parents or court appointed legal guardian verified by judge signed documentation. A student living with extended family or friends does NOT automatically grant I.H.S.A. eligibility. Family situations other than children living with their natural parents must be brought to the attention of the athletic director to be reviewed and/or submitted to the I.H.S.A. for consideration of eligibility. Being an enrolled student at a designated high school, does not automatically allow a student to be eligible to participate in I.H.S.A. sports. Please see your Athletic Director for further questions. Barb Barrows Athletic Director Neuqua Valley High School 630-428-6849 Okay - here comes the 204 party line folks- but please read what is being said here quietly -- after having talked to the IHSA- the SCHOOL DISTRICT decides what the boundaries are - also if they want to put forth exceptions that are then ruled on by the IHSA. The IHSA does not make these decision up front - blanket - never has. While being enrolled in the school does not guarantee anyone the ability to play IHSA sports- the IHSA defers to the SD first for their input - especially when the situation is within the SAME SD. You have a right to ask the SD to put forth an exception ( varsity when no varsity exists / sports that do not exist at new school etc.) - If the SD decides to block you - you are done, the IHSA will not - cannot override. Let's make sure we all understand the process.
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Post by Arch on May 21, 2009 15:10:46 GMT -6
I know many destined for MV who are making (or have already made) other HS plans for their kids.
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Post by doctorwho on May 21, 2009 15:14:47 GMT -6
Renting apartments, buying foreclosed homes, getting divorced, planning a legal separation...just a few solutions I have heard. How in the heck will the district be able to keep track of this? Also, isn't it within an individuals rights to do any of the above? IMO I view the above solutions as unacceptable to myself and my family. Because I am so strongly against moving the Class of 2012 I have considered them all. I couldn't imagine getting divorced or separated just so my child can go to a school that doesn't even want us anyway. The situation must be extreme to justify it. What are we teaching our kids if we do any of the above? It's not like we are talking about inner-city Chicago schools compared to New Trier. The real exception would be in relation to MV. The district has not yet proven that the site is completely safe or at least as environmental safe as WV and NV. The safety risks could definitely be classified as extreme. However, I don't think that too many WV families moving to MV are really the issue. The families that I have encountered (AWAY FROM THIS MESSAGE BOARD) that are moving from WV to MV truly believe that the environmental hazards are being blown waaaaay out of proportion by people disgruntled with the boundaries. Obviously I disagree. true - they trust that the right things were done - I am with you in believing they were not and would not send my child there..everyone has to make their own decisions they can live with. same goes for all the other 'solutions'. I will criticize no family that does this so that their kids can stay together in HS ( driving considerations)- as well as allow parents to attend the extracurriculars for ALL their children, not have to choose. Same goes for those kids who will either see their sports go away - or have to play at a lower level because that is all their new school offers- taking away something they already had freshman year. Kids only get 1 high school experience..
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Post by researching on May 21, 2009 15:25:02 GMT -6
I know many destined for MV who are making (or have already made) other HS plans for their kids. Ditto for NV kids moving to WV. One situation I have heard of involves a Class of 2013 student bound for WV. This student tried out and made a team at WV. All of the sudden this student's parents are getting *cough-cough* divorced and one parent will reside in the WV district the other will reside in the NV district. That student then tried out for the same team at NV and made it. Let's do the translation. Said student tries out and makes a team at WV. The family decides that they really don't want to go to the oldest high school in the district. They want their child to go to NV, the school they always thought they were going to. They fake a divorce (real divorce but on paper only), rent an apartment, keep their current house and deal with it for 4 years. Said student graduates, they re-marry, give up the apartment and all is well in their world. ETA - I don't think the district can do ANYTHING to prevent the above from occurring. If the family can afford to do that, it is up to them. Also, from a legal stand point, the district shouldn't touch it. Remember, they said they couldn't "legally" do anything about rapists attending school with their victim.
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Post by Arch on May 21, 2009 15:36:41 GMT -6
That's more expensive than private school...
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Post by researching on May 21, 2009 15:39:04 GMT -6
That's more expensive than private school... My thoughts exactly! Who knows what the situation is. Maybe distance or their kid didn't get accepted?
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Post by doctorwho on May 21, 2009 15:39:24 GMT -6
That's more expensive than private school... yep - some of us did that price comparison last year but considering we still pay for 204 also - both will really hurt in these economic times good point though on the acceptance- as schools like Benet have a larger and larger base every year to qualify to attend - now more than double the class size each year testing to get in.
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Post by kidsfirst on May 21, 2009 15:41:26 GMT -6
I know many destined for MV who are making (or have already made) other HS plans for their kids. Ditto for NV kids moving to WV. One situation I have heard of involves a Class of 2013 student bound for WV. This student tried out and made a team at WV. All of the sudden this student's parents are getting *cough-cough* divorced and one parent will reside in the WV district the other will reside in the NV district. That student then tried out for the same team at NV and made it. Let's do the translation. Said student tries out and makes a team at WV. The family decides that they really don't want to go to the oldest high school in the district. They want their child to go to NV, the school they always thought they were going to. They fake a divorce (real divorce but on paper only), rent an apartment, keep their current house and deal with it for 4 years. Said student graduates, they re-marry, give up the apartment and all is well in their world. ETA - I don't think the district can do ANYTHING to prevent the above from occurring. If the family can afford to do that, it is up to them. Also, from a legal stand point, the district shouldn't touch it. Remember, they said they couldn't "legally" do anything about rapists attending school with their victim. Wow. Teaching your kids how to "beat the system" . What wonderful role models those parents are. On another note, I have heard that the school district is going to try and crack down on the "illegal" people that are not supposed to be in our district-those coming from Dist. 131 or 129. I hope they are able to do that.
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Post by Arch on May 21, 2009 15:45:19 GMT -6
Ditto for NV kids moving to WV. One situation I have heard of involves a Class of 2013 student bound for WV. This student tried out and made a team at WV. All of the sudden this student's parents are getting *cough-cough* divorced and one parent will reside in the WV district the other will reside in the NV district. That student then tried out for the same team at NV and made it. Let's do the translation. Said student tries out and makes a team at WV. The family decides that they really don't want to go to the oldest high school in the district. They want their child to go to NV, the school they always thought they were going to. They fake a divorce (real divorce but on paper only), rent an apartment, keep their current house and deal with it for 4 years. Said student graduates, they re-marry, give up the apartment and all is well in their world. ETA - I don't think the district can do ANYTHING to prevent the above from occurring. If the family can afford to do that, it is up to them. Also, from a legal stand point, the district shouldn't touch it. Remember, they said they couldn't "legally" do anything about rapists attending school with their victim. Wow. Teaching your kids how to "beat the system" . What wonderful role models those parents are. On another note, I have heard that the school district is going to try and crack down on the "illegal" people that are not supposed to be in our district-those coming from Dist. 131 or 129. I hope they are able to do that. Technically, it's 'legal' for what was spelled out by others... And we've heard time and time again that if it's not illegal, then it's well within an entity's right to do it. I agree on the out of district residents... They are not paying taxes here, so Bzzzt.
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Post by kidsfirst on May 21, 2009 16:11:30 GMT -6
Legally correct, maybe. Morally correct.... ? I guess it just floors me that someone thinks that lowly of WV to pay $15,000+ a year for an apartment so they can "legally" beat the system. Just perpetuates the incorrect perceived differences between the two schools and also teaches your kids that it's OK to buy your way out of a problem. I sure hope these parents won't be the ones that complain about their school portion of their taxes while shelling out rent each month. To be honest, I have more sympathy for the poor people out of district that are being illegal trying to get their kids a better education than those folks that feel they are too good to go to WV. Sorry, I'll get off my high horse now.
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