Plan F: New Boundaries under Ashwood Scenario

[Avenging Eagle]

chicoryowl said:

Good point about Peterson being smaller. That will probably mean that Owen, McCarty, or Cowlishaw will be larger because of kids coming from Brach-Brodie developed land.

I believe that the BB land will fall into the Gombert area, so it would end up at Metea anyway. Can anyone confirm?

[cantretirehere]

If we are going to start dabbling with boundaries we should start with getting the ES school boundaries straightened out first. I only say this because the board did mention, during the 'Boundary Wars' (play Star Wars music here) that they were going to be working on those regardless of what the high school boundaries ended up being.

[Avenging Eagle]

chicoryowl said:

AE, perhaps you could begin giving your scenarios names like "Plan 1" and "Plan 1A" and so on. That would really assist me to re-kindle the feelings of anger, bewilderment and anxiety that the last process brought about. ;D

I called this "Plan AshHole" in another thread, but I will rename it to Plan F (for Fallback).

[Avenging Eagle]

cantretirehere said:

If we are going to start dabbling with boundaries we should start with getting the ES school boundaries straightened out first. I only say this because the board did mention, during the 'Boundary Wars' (play Star Wars music here) that they were going to be working on those regardless of what the high school boundaries ended up being.

I agree.... I defer to the experts on the matter, proschool and Topher(Yoda).

[EagleDad]

Man, I really think I'm going to be sick. Someone pull the car over.

[doctorwho]

cantretirehere said:

If we are going to start dabbling with boundaries we should start with getting the ES school boundaries straightened out first. I only say this because the board did mention, during the 'Boundary Wars' (play Star Wars music here) that they were going to be working on those regardless of what the high school boundaries ended up being.

Agree we have to start at the bottom and work up - but again hoping it will not come to this....

[proschool]

proschool said:

I suggest start ith the middle schools first. its much easier that way.

I was thinking Hill was a problem but feeding Hill into NV might work. It seems like it will help the acheivementg gap as well.

So AE's plan from the middle school perspective is Crone and Sscullen to MV. 7th and Granger to NV. Scullen Hill and Gregory and Still to NV. Gomebrt moves from Still to 7th.

I think that might work


EDIT:

I have to take this back. This will close the acheivement gap between NV and WV pretty well but MV will be made up soley of high income high performing schools.

I would accept a boundary scenario like this for free land or if we absolutely had to do it. otherwise forget it.

[proschool]

avengingeagle said:

chicoryowl said:

Good point about Peterson being smaller. That will probably mean that Owen, McCarty, or Cowlishaw will be larger because of kids coming from Brach-Brodie developed land.

I believe that the BB land will fall into the Gombert area, so it would end up at Metea anyway. Can anyone confirm?

BB is assigned to Owen along with Leigh High Station, Chicory Place, Stonehaven and the Villages of Meadow Lakes. I think that most of Owen kids are from Aurora. Cowlishaw has quite a few kids from Aurora too, so the AE proposal does have NV with quite a few kids from Aurora and Bolingbrook.

Didn't the BB estate attorneys say that BB was commercial land. I know that the 10th ward alderman did. If they want it to be commercial and the city thinks its commercial can't we just make it official and make it commercial. IMO it will really tick of the BB estate because there is no way that they are going to be able to sell that land for commercial purposes.

[bob]

None of the land that the SD wants is commercial land. It is zoned high density.

[warriorpride]

bob said:

None of the land that the SD wants is commercial land. It is zoned high density.

Right - and the part of BB that is frontage to Rt 59 (that the SD is NOT trying to purchase) IS zoned commercial.

This might help: www.ipsd.org/3hs_index.asp?strImage=big_mock_map.jpg

The BB land east of proposed HS site and west of 59 is zoned commercial.

Edited:
Proschool - You are correct, thought, that 10th Ward Alderman Lynda Elmore was incorrectly stating, during the 1st (failed) referendum that BB was zoned commercial and using that, among other reasons, as a justification for begin against the referendum (the logic was that commercial property brings in tax $ to the city, while a school does not).

[proschool]

I know that the land is slated high density housing but I thought that BB attorneys had been out there claiming that the land was commercial.

I don't really believe that you can sell it as commercial but wouldn't it be poetic to rezone it as commercial if the land Acquisition doesn't go well and the school needs to be built in Ashwood?

[bob]

I rather BB be kept high density and then make the any one living there to send their kids to Peterson.

[proschool]

bob said:

I rather BB be kept high density and then make the any one living there to send their kids to Peterson.

I think that's closer than Owen which is where they are slated to go now.

[warriorpride]

bob said:

I rather BB be kept high density and then make the any one living there to send their kids to Peterson.

... and then to WV

[lacy]

chicoryowl said:

AE, perhaps you could begin giving your scenarios names like "Plan 1" and "Plan 1A" and so on. That would really assist me to re-kindle the feelings of anger, bewilderment and anxiety that the last process brought about. ;D

Reading through this thread, it seems this is just an effort to rekindle the feelings of anger, etc. Thanks for saying that for me.

I think the most likely scenario would be to leave the boundaries mostly as they've been proposed for BB. To start moving large numbers of kids out of NVHS just wouldn't make sense.

So I'm left to think that this thread is just an effort to stir people up and try to dissuade them from being interesting in a possible better option for the kids and the district. How sad.

It also seems odd coming from people who obviously are opposed to the Macom site unless it's "free." Why have a 2 page thread about boundaries when everyone who has posted is very negative about the Macom site?

I've talked to many of my neighbors over the last several days (some who supported the 3rd high school and some who did not), and everyone I've talked to is very interested in learning more about the possibility of the Macom site. We are interested in hearing more from the developer (not just BG) about the road, power lines and Park district portion.