D204 to reveal proposed Metea boundaries Feb. 12

[rew]

When Ashwood was on the drawing board, the SD told them NV could not hold anyone else. In June of 04 the SB was set to assign them to WV, but then the 05 ref committee was formed and the SD held off on moving Ashwood to WV because if the ref passed they were going to redo all boundaries. This was the SB meeting that the builders showed up to protest.

Those of us around then, expected Ashwood would be sent to WV. I'm sorry if Macom or any builder used the postponing of assigning Ashwood to market homes.

[WeBe204]

macy said:

pof2 said:

To alleviate Ashwood being an island, they should have all of Peterson go to NV...Fry, Welch and WE can go to WVHS.

If Peterson does go to WVHS, then any students east of 59 should be sent to a new ES or MS. Unfortunately that is the greater pop of Peterson.

Tamarack and Century Trace (currently at Peterson) should go to Crone with the Ashwood Students and then on to whatever high school is decided for Peterson, making Ashwood less of an island.

Currently only Ashwood residents go to Crone...the rest of Peterson goes to Scullen. ABout 20 kids in Ashwood (atleast that is my understanding)

This boundary thing is going to get ugly...My husband attended the last round and it was brutal. I'll be glad when it is over and all the dust settles....

I've got the following subdivisions going to Peterson. Only one, that I can determine is east of rt. 59- Crestview Knolls North. They account for only 11% of total Peterson kids in 204 (grades k-12). I can't see any way that they are the greater portion of Peterson's population.

Here's the subdivision list I have for Peterson:

ANDERMANN ACRES
ASHWOOD CREEK(SOUTH OF 11TH)
ASHWOOD PARK(SOUTH ASHWD BLVD)
ASHWOOD PARK(NORTH ASHWD BLVD)
CENTURY TRACE/RSVR LOT 187-223
CENTURY TRACE/RSVR LOT 100-186
CRESTVIEW KNOLLS NORTH
PHEASANT RIDGE
TAMARACK WEST O
TAMARACK FAIRWYS/TAM PLAINFLD
WHEATLAND HIGHLANDS
WHEATLAND SOUTH
WHEATLAND HEIGHTS ESTATES

Have I missed anything else east of 59?

I have Crestview Knolls k-12 total of kids at 113 and the total number of Peterson k-12 kids at 1016.

So, if we go with a 59 orientation based on ES then is the list of developments going to wherever Peterson gets assigned. Crestview will just be an unfortunate victim. Thanks for the list its helpful.

[WeBe204]

rew said:

When Ashwood was on the drawing board, the SD told them NV could not hold anyone else. In June of 04 the SB was set to assign them to WV, but then the 05 ref committee was formed and the SD held off on moving Ashwood to WV because if the ref passed they were going to redo all boundaries. This was the SB meeting that the builders showed up to protest.

Those of us around then, expected Ashwood would be sent to WV. I'm sorry if Macom or any builder used the postponing of assigning Ashwood to market homes.

Nothing to be sorry about. That is not the point, but many people over simplify it that way. It makes them feel better or superior I can't figure out which.

The new-old 2009 boundaries were not well thought out in our area. And hopefully this time they will be. That is all. Nothing more or nothing less. I am not pushing for either school (i do have a bias based on transportation time I have admitted that plenty of times) just looking for some fair treatment.

I think we can do better than the extreme minority being split off to Crone and then once again an extreme minority splitting off to WVHS. Or am I asking too much?

[confused]

researching said:

pof2 said:

Brad, during the last boundary go-around, Ashwood only had a few homes built...therefore Ashwood had no voice. Last in issue. Anyway, I think Ashwood was not looked at correctly and was glossed over because there were only a few houses.

Ashwood Creek has approx. 180 lots, with probably 60 to 70 houses built (best guess).

Ashwood Creek definitely got the shaft last time. I would like to agree that it was because you were small and had no voice. Unfortunately, that is not the case. Fry and Brookdale were out in force and all it did was get them all ugly nicknames.

Great point, researching.

[refbasics]

rew said:

When Ashwood was on the drawing board, the SD told them NV could not hold anyone else. In June of 04 the SB was set to assign them to WV, but then the 05 ref committee was formed and the SD held off on moving Ashwood to WV because if the ref passed they were going to redo all boundaries. This was the SB meeting that the builders showed up to protest.

Those of us around then, expected Ashwood would be sent to WV. I'm sorry if Macom or any builder used the postponing of assigning Ashwood to market homes.

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thank you for the info!

Just moving to this area in 2001, i had no clue about anything, especially hi school.. since i had younger kids(& we thought we would be moving again in a couple years).

i didn't even know that WVHS was in SD 204!! i thought it was a school for kids who lived in aurora.

i, often, drove by it because we lived on eola while building our house. AND i thought, what a great looking school- it looks like a small college! (you should have seen where i went to hi school!! ;D )

i did not know there was a 'ruckus' about WV until i went to a REF meeting, and a SB member told me(& the small group i was with) that the real estate agents did not have a good impression of WV! i was very surprised, to say the least!

[rew]

But that is my question. When you develop an area and the SD tells you, there is no room for you at NV so you will be assigned to WV and then they post pone the assignment because they are redrawing boundaries and then you get assigned to where they originally said they planned to send you...how is that getting the shaft?

[WeBe204]

refbasics said:

rew said:

When Ashwood was on the drawing board, the SD told them NV could not hold anyone else. In June of 04 the SB was set to assign them to WV, but then the 05 ref committee was formed and the SD held off on moving Ashwood to WV because if the ref passed they were going to redo all boundaries. This was the SB meeting that the builders showed up to protest.

Those of us around then, expected Ashwood would be sent to WV. I'm sorry if Macom or any builder used the postponing of assigning Ashwood to market homes.

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thank you for the info!

Just moving to this area in 2001, i had no clue about anything, especially hi school.. since i had younger kids(& we thought we would be moving again in a couple years).

i didn't even know that WVHS was in SD 204!! i thought it was a school for kids who lived in aurora.

i, often, drove by it because we lived on eola while building our house. AND i thought, what a great looking school- it looks like a small college! (you should have seen where i went to hi school!! ;D )

i did not know there was a 'ruckus' about WV until i went to a REF meeting, and a SB member told me(& the small group i was with) that the real estate agents did not have a good impression of WV! i was very surprised, to say the least!

I'll tell you that was the most horrifying part of looking for a house out here. Since my better half worked for the district for so long I knew both schools were fine. But when I started looking for places to buy. Wow, the stuff you would hear. And for the record I bought and built after all the boundary process.

[sleeplessinnpvl]

refbasics said:

rew said:

When Ashwood was on the drawing board, the SD told them NV could not hold anyone else. In June of 04 the SB was set to assign them to WV, but then the 05 ref committee was formed and the SD held off on moving Ashwood to WV because if the ref passed they were going to redo all boundaries. This was the SB meeting that the builders showed up to protest.

Those of us around then, expected Ashwood would be sent to WV. I'm sorry if Macom or any builder used the postponing of assigning Ashwood to market homes.

-----------------------

thank you for the info!

Just moving to this area in 2001, i had no clue about anything, especially hi school.. since i had younger kids(& we thought we would be moving again in a couple years).

i didn't even know that WVHS was in SD 204!! i thought it was a school for kids who lived in aurora.

i, often, drove by it because we lived on eola while building our house. AND i thought, what a great looking school- it looks like a small college! (you should have seen where i went to hi school!! ;D )

i did not know there was a 'ruckus' about WV until i went to a REF meeting, and a SB member told me(& the small group i was with) that the real estate agents did not have a good impression of WV! i was very surprised, to say the least!

Please don't put all the blame on all the real estate agents. They have to sit in a car with a buyer that says, "My neighbor's first cousin's aunt said that WV is bad....I want to look at homes in Neuqua." Then the agents have to put that fear to rest...at least they should be doing that or they could lose their license. I'm not saying there aren't some Realtors out there doing it. WV held a great tour for all the Realtors to go and view WV so obviously someone thinks they are doing it. But this image of WV is put forth by lots of people all over the place unfortunately, not just Realtors.

[WeBe204]

rew said:

But that is my question. When you develop an area and the SD tells you, there is no room for you at NV so you will be assigned to WV and then they post pone the assignment because they are redrawing boundaries and then you get assigned to where they originally said they planned to send you...how is that getting the shaft?

I think you are sort of stuck on a particular concept. You are also making a rather incorrect assumption that the old 2009 boundaries mean anything. They are being redone. Hence trying to right some wrongs. Do you think the current old 2009 obundaries mean anything?

[rew]

There is a long history of battles over the south and a lot of it revolves around Macom. Hence all the baggage.

I can remember as clear as a bell HC begging the city council not to rezone the area for Tallgrass. It was zoned for office parks and HC referred to the development as a monster that would break Neuqua's back. High Meadow was another battle for annexation and they battled for South Pointe and it was the one time I remember the city holding the line.

It wasn't an easy time. We were glad to have nice homes being built. It was good for the area, but we were battling a SD admin that refused to even discuss a third HS. Wouldn't let the ref com, that eventually backed the frosh ctrs idea, even consider it.

Many of us were shocked when they rezoned for Ashwood.

[doctorwho]

refbasics said:

rew said:

When Ashwood was on the drawing board, the SD told them NV could not hold anyone else. In June of 04 the SB was set to assign them to WV, but then the 05 ref committee was formed and the SD held off on moving Ashwood to WV because if the ref passed they were going to redo all boundaries. This was the SB meeting that the builders showed up to protest.

Those of us around then, expected Ashwood would be sent to WV. I'm sorry if Macom or any builder used the postponing of assigning Ashwood to market homes.

-----------------------

thank you for the info!

Just moving to this area in 2001, i had no clue about anything, especially hi school.. since i had younger kids(& we thought we would be moving again in a couple years).

i didn't even know that WVHS was in SD 204!! i thought it was a school for kids who lived in aurora.

i, often, drove by it because we lived on eola while building our house. AND i thought, what a great looking school- it looks like a small college! (you should have seen where i went to hi school!! ;D )

i did not know there was a 'ruckus' about WV until i went to a REF meeting, and a SB member told me(& the small group i was with) that the real estate agents did not have a good impression of WV! i was very surprised, to say the least!

Much simpler times when I moved here 19 years ago --- WVHS was our ONLY HS and people just referred to it as OUR high school.....

now for some reason there is a need to have it be the NEW WVHS and New Warriors, a concept that I must admit irks me to no end.

[sleeplessinnpvl]

brad204 said:

rew said:

But that is my question. When you develop an area and the SD tells you, there is no room for you at NV so you will be assigned to WV and then they post pone the assignment because they are redrawing boundaries and then you get assigned to where they originally said they planned to send you...how is that getting the shaft?

I think you are sort of stuck on a particular concept. You are also making a rather incorrect assumption that the old 2009 boundaries mean anything. They are being redone. Hence trying to right some wrongs. Do you think the current old 2009 obundaries mean anything?

IMO the old boundaries don't mean much but they were supposedly put together with some criteria that they still find valid today. So for the most part, I think the southern part would remain similar with a few tweaks but the north would have to be revamped. BB wasn't that far from WV so I think it's easy to assign the southern ES's that were there to WV. The north will be a totally different story. The district said they would be examining things with two sets of enrollment numbers...present and projected. So with that getting thrown into the mix...who knows what they may come up with.

[WeBe204]

rew said:

There is a long history of battles over the south and a lot of it revolves around Macom. Hence all the baggage.

I can remember as clear as a bell HC begging the city council not to rezone the area for Tallgrass. It was zoned for office parks and HC referred to the development as a monster that would break Neuqua's back. High Meadow was another battle for annexation and they battled for South Pointe and it was the one time I remember the city holding the line.

It wasn't an easy time. We were glad to have nice homes being built. It was good for the area, but we were battling a SD admin that refused to even discuss a third HS. Wouldn't let the ref com, that eventually backed the frosh ctrs idea, even consider it.

Many of us were shocked when they rezoned for Ashwood.

Oh, I know. That is why I never really thought the district would work with Macom on their land. And they did not. That just seemed like oil and water.

The problem was Ashwood was supposed to be light industrial. And whatever was proposed to the city council would never pass. No one wanted more truck traffic. I guess this went on for years. And finally they pushed for residential so the developers could do something.

I totally get the fact the district had it out for Macom. I am not saying it was in the right or wrong. But none of this history has anything to do with current situation. So like the boundary wars we need to let it go and move on.

[doctorwho]

sleeplessinnpvl said:

refbasics said:

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thank you for the info!

Just moving to this area in 2001, i had no clue about anything, especially hi school.. since i had younger kids(& we thought we would be moving again in a couple years).

i didn't even know that WVHS was in SD 204!! i thought it was a school for kids who lived in aurora.

i, often, drove by it because we lived on eola while building our house. AND i thought, what a great looking school- it looks like a small college! (you should have seen where i went to hi school!! ;D )

i did not know there was a 'ruckus' about WV until i went to a REF meeting, and a SB member told me(& the small group i was with) that the real estate agents did not have a good impression of WV! i was very surprised, to say the least!

Please don't put all the blame on all the real estate agents. They have to sit in a car with a buyer that says, "My neighbor's first cousin's aunt said that WV is bad....I want to look at homes in Neuqua." Then the agents have to put that fear to rest...at least they should be doing that or they could lose their license. I'm not saying there aren't some Realtors out there doing it. WV held a great tour for all the Realtors to go and view WV so obviously someone thinks they are doing it. But this image of WV is put forth by lots of people all over the place unfortunately, not just Realtors.

No one gets all the blame - but I also remember reporting some to their HQ after they actively marketed NV vs WVHS after those boundaries were finalized. Many were not innocent either.

[sleeplessinnpvl]

doctorwho said:

sleeplessinnpvl said:

Please don't put all the blame on all the real estate agents. They have to sit in a car with a buyer that says, "My neighbor's first cousin's aunt said that WV is bad....I want to look at homes in Neuqua." Then the agents have to put that fear to rest...at least they should be doing that or they could lose their license. I'm not saying there aren't some Realtors out there doing it. WV held a great tour for all the Realtors to go and view WV so obviously someone thinks they are doing it. But this image of WV is put forth by lots of people all over the place unfortunately, not just Realtors.

No one gets all the blame - but I also remember reporting some to their HQ after they actively marketed NV vs WVHS after those boundaries were finalized. Many were not innocent either.

Yes, there are thousands of Realtors in Naperville so I'm sure a few were being guided by what the general population was already saying.