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Post by lacy on Aug 21, 2007 19:07:19 GMT -6
Well those 300 are taken by next year assuming that all 300 are seniors that want to go to Frontier. What about the next 500? 2015 9154 2014 9088 2013 9059 2012 9118 2011 9075 2010 8922 2009 8778 2008 8311 Thanks for your speculations Bob. They are as accurate as the rest of this board ;D ;D
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Post by harry on Aug 21, 2007 19:11:23 GMT -6
I didn't know that the SB has a crystal ball!!!! The SB said that they can put the addition on. I know that that is not what your team wants, but it is a fact that plans were discussed @ Steck with JC and ? who just retired last year??? I am forgetting the dude's name. So why don't you request that they divulge such plans to the community. I mean, we are all for disclosure from the SB!! Crystal Ball? It is called adding. Maybe I can explain addition for you, 1 2358 2 2259 3 2324 4 2213 5 2292 6 2230 7 2383 8 2170 F 2139 S 2086 J 1916 The first number is the grade level of the students but don't add that up. The number to right of the grade level is the reported student population for that class. So if you wanted to see the population of this year's class barring any movers in or out of the SD, you will add 1916+2086+2139+2170. Don't foregt to carry the numbers to the next column. Please refer to your own post #227 for the 'Reported" numbers "barring any movers in or out of the SD" Are those reported moves or not??
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Post by harry on Aug 21, 2007 19:14:26 GMT -6
Not saying I am right, but just using evidence of what a major addition would cost. It took me all of 15 seconds of a Google search to find it. It is easy to say build additions to NV and WV but even easier to find a ballpark figure of what it would cost. because you actually take the time time to do the math rather than just firing off shells that leave out costs - what's the word for that- oh yeah I readit here - laughable -- like I said originally - we build two additions which leave us with 2 overcrowded huge high schools ( assuming the WV can even be built on - I will check into the pitch that was made to see what was said ) and one middle school and spend the same amount -- great ! Where do we sign ? Also where is all that concern about construction going on while kids are in school - ( MV) - it's OK when they're adding additions ? That's right ,,,,Dr W is also 'in the know' and right. He solves the problem....Again The End I'll use Dr logic and go out a limb and say that I think parents will put up with construction noise in order to get their kids out of overcrowded situations.
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Post by warriorpride on Aug 21, 2007 19:17:12 GMT -6
Actually, it's the anti-WV statements that I and others are sick & tired of. I really haven't noticed any anti-WVHS statements on this board. What I do notice is some serious over-reaction to anything that remotely could be twisted to be anti-WVHS (even if it's just discussion of some of the attitudes displayed at the referendum meetings - from WVHS residents - which I hope has dissipated). Then you have selective memory. We've gone over this before. Why do you seem so intent on pointing to people that go to WV as being the perpetuaters of this nonsense? You know that's not totally true, right?
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Post by warriorpride on Aug 21, 2007 19:19:47 GMT -6
because you actually take the time time to do the math rather than just firing off shells that leave out costs - what's the word for that- oh yeah I readit here - laughable -- like I said originally - we build two additions which leave us with 2 overcrowded huge high schools ( assuming the WV can even be built on - I will check into the pitch that was made to see what was said ) and one middle school and spend the same amount -- great ! Where do we sign ? Also where is all that concern about construction going on while kids are in school - ( MV) - it's OK when they're adding additions ? That's right ,,,,Dr W is also 'in the know' and right. He solves the problem....Again The End I'll use Dr logic and go out a limb and say that I think parents will put up with construction noise in order to get their kids out of overcrowded situations. How about a comparable situation: the I88 widening project causes traffic to be worse right now, but when it's done, then it's better than before. We're taking the short-term pain/sacrifice for the longer-term gain. Make sense?
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Post by harry on Aug 21, 2007 19:28:36 GMT -6
That's right ,,,,Dr W is also 'in the know' and right. He solves the problem....Again The End I'll use Dr logic and go out a limb and say that I think parents will put up with construction noise in order to get their kids out of overcrowded situations. How about a comparable situation: the I88 widening project causes traffic to be worse right now, but when it's done, then it's better than before. We're taking the short-term pain/sacrifice for the longer-term gain. Make sense? Not at all. Overcrowding at all levels was one of the spins to get the 3rd HS passed (boundaries, which were not on the ballot and look to be more in jeopardy than EVER) Since 2005, we have no land being built on no 3rd HS an empty Petersen building that holds 800 but sits relatively empty An only 300 of the 600 seats filled @ Frontier the 2nd biggest enrollment of soon to be 2nd graders but no new space needed in our ES only the same amount of portables as 2005 no media complaints of personal hardship no new blips in enrollment no divulged Plan B for other parcels you decide
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Post by bob on Aug 21, 2007 19:30:41 GMT -6
Crystal Ball? It is called adding. Maybe I can explain addition for you, 1 2358 2 2259 3 2324 4 2213 5 2292 6 2230 7 2383 8 2170 F 2139 S 2086 J 1916 The first number is the grade level of the students but don't add that up. The number to right of the grade level is the reported student population for that class. So if you wanted to see the population of this year's class barring any movers in or out of the SD, you will add 1916+2086+2139+2170. Don't foregt to carry the numbers to the next column. Please refer to your own post #227 for the 'Reported" numbers "barring any movers in or out of the SD" Are those reported moves or not?? Those are the numbers the SD used. The numbers I posted are from last year. I added the movers comment because when this year's numbers come out, I wanted people to be aware the numbers fluctuate slightly from year to year due to people moving in and out of the SD.
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Post by lacy on Aug 21, 2007 19:32:03 GMT -6
I really haven't noticed any anti-WVHS statements on this board. What I do notice is some serious over-reaction to anything that remotely could be twisted to be anti-WVHS (even if it's just discussion of some of the attitudes displayed at the referendum meetings - from WVHS residents - which I hope has dissipated). Then you have selective memory. We've gone over this before. Why do you seem so intent on pointing to people that go to WV as being the perpetuaters of this nonsense? You know that's not totally true, right? I really don't know people who have an anti-WVHS bias. Sorry. I have seen some that have an anti-NVHS bias (calling it the Taj, etc.) And I have seen those perpetrators you speak of. But I'll take your word that there's another element too. I just don't think they're on this board. So it kinda bugs me when people go off and accuse posters on this board of that.
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Post by harry on Aug 21, 2007 19:32:52 GMT -6
Harry, I agree. It was sold to us a long time ago (with the freshman campuses) that NV could always have additions put onto it. So use the 25 acres for a middle school. As I stated a long time ago, you could even see if COD would offer another off campus site that would be a little easier for WV students to attend as well. Again, we do still have 300 empty seats at Frontier. Well those 300 are taken by next year assuming that all 300 are seniors that want to go to Frontier. What about the next 500? 2015 9154 2014 9088 2013 9059 2012 9118 2011 9075 2010 8922 2009 8778 2008 8311 Bob's quote from reply #227 shows the magical numbers that the SB reported as gospel
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Post by bob on Aug 21, 2007 19:34:57 GMT -6
Well those 300 are taken by next year assuming that all 300 are seniors that want to go to Frontier. What about the next 500? 2015 9154 2014 9088 2013 9059 2012 9118 2011 9075 2010 8922 2009 8778 2008 8311 Bob's quote from reply #227 shows the magical numbers that the SB reported as gospel Read my last post. If I am wrong, then please post the correct numbers. You called them gospel. All I said is these are the numbers that the SD reported.
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Post by lacy on Aug 21, 2007 19:36:14 GMT -6
How about a comparable situation: the I88 widening project causes traffic to be worse right now, but when it's done, then it's better than before. We're taking the short-term pain/sacrifice for the longer-term gain. Make sense? Not at all. Overcrowding at all levels was one of the spins to get the 3rd HS passed (boundaries, which were not on the ballot and look to be more in jeopardy than EVER) Since 2005, we have no land being built on no 3rd HS an empty Petersen building that holds 800 but sits relatively empty An only 300 of the 600 seats filled @ Frontier the 2nd biggest enrollment of soon to be 2nd graders but no new space needed in our ES only the same amount of portables as 2005 no media complaints of personal hardship no new blips in enrollment no divulged Plan B for other parcels you decide Hey Harry, Be on the look out for a personal hardship story in the Sun - one's probably being drafted as we speak! ;D But where's the update on quick-take?
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Post by bob on Aug 21, 2007 19:39:41 GMT -6
Peterson isn't empty anymore and neither is Wheatland.
Can we force kids to go to Frontier?
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Post by harry on Aug 21, 2007 19:40:29 GMT -6
Not at all. Overcrowding at all levels was one of the spins to get the 3rd HS passed (boundaries, which were not on the ballot and look to be more in jeopardy than EVER) Since 2005, we have no land being built on no 3rd HS an empty Petersen building that holds 800 but sits relatively empty An only 300 of the 600 seats filled @ Frontier the 2nd biggest enrollment of soon to be 2nd graders but no new space needed in our ES only the same amount of portables as 2005 no media complaints of personal hardship no new blips in enrollment no divulged Plan B for other parcels you decide Hey Harry, Be on the look out for a personal hardship story in the Sun - one's probably being drafted as we speak! ;D But where's the update on quick-take? You know that that is coming.... Let's write the Headlines today!!! Certainly the front page news should be........... "Reporters ask time and time again of the Dist 204 SB for comment on the Quick Take update, the current overcrowded position of Dist 204 and Plan B, but comments to their office remain unanswered......................"
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Post by harry on Aug 21, 2007 19:42:05 GMT -6
Peterson isn't empty anymore and neither is Wheatland. So.....by antonym standards.......they are ....'full'?? bob, do you have an answer for the rest of my questions??? Maybe you should email the SB members you know and ask for answers.
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Post by bob on Aug 21, 2007 19:43:49 GMT -6
Peterson isn't empty anymore and neither is Wheatland. So.....by antonym standards.......they are ....'full'?? bob, do you have an answer for the rest of my questions??? Maybe you should email the SB members you know and ask for answers. Maybe you should look up the defintion of a question because you didn't pose any in that post.
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