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Post by bob on Sept 27, 2007 7:21:31 GMT -6
Dr. Isn't that land zoned as commercial, not residential?? The 55 acres BB acres is zoned for high density as is Macom. |
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Post by doctorwho on Sept 27, 2007 7:26:42 GMT -6
RUN LIKE THE WIND!!!! This is exactly what some of us were afraid of - and how thankful I am that they didn't get quick take. The SB needs to look at all options. Where are the enrollment numbers? Can we build a middle school on the 25 acres and add onto NVHS and WVHS - expand the Frontier concept? Buy the Macom land? If a referendum is required to AC the schools, then a new referendum should be required to approve land that is DOUBLE what the district planned for. They should NOT do this without voter approval. I so agree this is a new development that needs to be decided on by the tax-paying community NOT a few voices. Anyone know the legalities of a new referendum??? Give us the enrollment numbers NOW The referendum approved $124M for the total package -- I do not believe it separates out the land cost from the building cost - so I do not see how any other vote would be needed as far as I know. If land cost went down but construction costs went up it would be the same thing -- that being said we DO NOT want to build a HS inferior to the ones we have today. If it can't be done with the $93M, then it shouldn't be. |
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Post by doctorwho on Sept 27, 2007 7:27:58 GMT -6
Dr. Isn't that land zoned as commercial, not residential?? No, Lehigh Station are the zillion townhomes going up south of the 59 train station and north of New York Street/ Aurora Ave. |
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Post by doctorwho on Sept 27, 2007 7:32:06 GMT -6
The decision has already been made. The voters approved the referendum. The administration has repeatedly stated they could build despite a higher land cost. ( remember the shortcuts at Nequa?) The administration has repeatedly proclaimed that no other parcel is suitable. They've boxed themselves in and we will pay the price. In my opinion, that was the reason for the rush for quick take. If they had succeeded, the cost over run would have been BB's fault. Now, the administration will have to accept responsibility, but they will still spin it as if they are innocent victims of the BB estate. Anyway, isn't the extra cost less than the cost of air conditioning? Only pennies a day.. It's unfortunate, but not at all surprising to me. Boxed themselves in?  Hardly Macom is still available and viable and CHEAPER!!!! Much closer to $257/acre arrogant price they came up with in the 1st place Here goes Dr, W,,,it is the SB's fiduciary responsibility to weigh in on Macom now that they have to ask the taxpayers for a bunch of money!!! First off Macom is not cheaper than the original bid - not by a longshot -- but yes it is cheaper than this idiotic number the jury came back with yes. Do they have a responsibility to lookinto that now - absolutely - along with properties up north, since we're looking at putting a school on the edges of the SD boundary. I do not see at this point where they have to ask for anything yet, so hold onto your wallet, no one is reaching for it. |
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Post by lacy on Sept 27, 2007 7:32:57 GMT -6
I so agree this is a new development that needs to be decided on by the tax-paying community NOT a few voices. Anyone know the legalities of a new referendum??? Give us the enrollment numbers NOW The referendum approved $124M for the total package -- I do not believe it separates out the land cost from the building cost - so I do not see how any other vote would be needed as far as I know. If land cost went down but construction costs went up it would be the same thing -- that being said we DO NOT want to build a HS inferior to the ones we have today. If it can't be done with the $93M, then it shouldn't be. If the district doesn't have the funds, then it should require a vote. They cannot manufacture money they do not have. And I agree that we should not build a HS inferior to the others or one that has to open in an incomplete state until they have the funds. |
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Post by doctorwho on Sept 27, 2007 7:34:29 GMT -6
Does anyone know the answer to my question...can they start building and appeal?? very good question, don't know the answer to it. They have 30 days to cut a check, does that become binding at that point ? ...but I have to admit that would concern even me if the school building itself cannot be built for what is left in the referendum money. |
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Post by bob on Sept 27, 2007 7:36:12 GMT -6
I guess the people who live next to the BB 55 are going to see one hell of a tax increase due to property appreciation. Maybe that will cause mine to go down.
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Post by wvhsparent on Sept 27, 2007 7:37:33 GMT -6
Sent my emails too
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Post by harry on Sept 27, 2007 7:47:54 GMT -6
Isn't there a special SB meeting this Friday??
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Post by wvhsparent on Sept 27, 2007 7:47:57 GMT -6
I agree, cut and run but to not build Metea is very short-sighted. If we do not build on BB, somebody will and that will add students to our district. But that is okay I guess, some of us will be gone before that happens. Unbelievable -- a few thoughts strike me and this is a forum to vent them I guess so I wish to issue congratulations all around: 1/ Congratulations to the jury, who proved once again that one can never underestimate how badly a decision can go -- case in point OJ / Phil Spector to name a few high profile ones. 2/ Congratulations to the attorneys at BB for being able to convince 12 people that the land at BB is worth $250K per acre more than Lehigh Station down the block at the same sales time. ( assuming the jury grasped that concept ). Maybe they got confused on the bus ride as to where they were. 3/ Congratulations to those who voted no the first time ( or didn't bother to vote at all ) - you got what you wanted - kids be d**ned As new homes go up on that land and more kids are stuffed into our schools, and programs and classrooms are overcrowded, some classes less available - remember we saved a few bucks 4/ Congratulations to the heirs at BB who will get all that extra money from someone -- oh that's right , there are no heirs. I'll wait and see what direction the SD-SB comes up with before my opinion ( for the 2 cents it's worth) is formed as to what the next best course of action is -- I only see one loser in this, and unfortunately they are too young to vote. doctor...... I have a serious issue with your #3 venting..... DO NOT Blame me for voting no the 1st time around, to which I readily admit to. The SB/Admin was more to blame for their arrogance and not properly justifying the need. |
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Post by doctorwho on Sept 27, 2007 7:48:55 GMT -6
I guess the people who live next to the BB 55 are going to see one hell of a tax increase due to property appreciation. Maybe that will cause mine to go down. you bet - those 1/2 acre lots now approx $255K unimproved ! In fact more than that because by the juries estimates they were $255 for 1/2 acre 2 years ago. |
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Post by warriorpride on Sept 27, 2007 7:51:12 GMT -6
I am so ticked off, I didn't even want to come on the board today.
1) I don't freakin' believe the price that the jury came up with. I'll bet that there's never been, nor ever will be a parcel IN AURORA zoned multi-familiy that sells for that price.
2) The SB has a chance to show us what they are made of - I'll reserve some of my judgement until they figure out how to get us out of this mess
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Post by wvhsparent on Sept 27, 2007 7:52:54 GMT -6
I tell you why Macom would still sell because he hasn't built a thing on it and his million dollar homes are not selling. IMHO Macom site is still too far south. If they really are going to consider it, then they better also consider land that was 1st thought of as too far north such as the land near Eola and Bilter/Ferry. and of course the St. John's AME site. |
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Post by harry on Sept 27, 2007 7:53:27 GMT -6
I ditto WV
the SB played master and servant and the servants had an uprising so the SB had to do
a fear/scare tactic in order to pass the ref
seems like we will be visiting a reboundary sooner than later
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Post by doctorwho on Sept 27, 2007 7:56:30 GMT -6
I am so ticked off, I didn't even want to come on the board today. 1) I don't freakin' believe the price that the jury came up with. I'll bet that there's never been, nor ever will be a parcel IN AURORA zoned multi-familiy that sells for that price. 2) The SB has a chance to show us what they are made of - I'll reserve some of my judgement until they figure out how to get us out of this mess I echo your sentiments exactly |
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