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Post by doctorwho on Oct 1, 2007 13:57:29 GMT -6
I know the cost is not the issue for you WVHSP...you are willing to pay St John's three times what they paid for the property in 2003, but you are not willing to pay twice what the SB determined BB worth in 2003?? (The $257 per acre is what the initial proceedings determined the 2003 value of BB to be, which is why I highly doubted it was going to come in at that) I guess it is St John's for you at any price..... No not at all. Let's do the math... 3x what St John's paid is 219k/acre...less than the initial offer to BB (which BTW was one of my arguments from day 1)...and WAAAAAAY less than jury verdict. Now I have never liked BB and have said so many times. although I disagree with them --WVHSp has always been not for BB - has been consistent.
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Post by rew on Oct 1, 2007 14:00:04 GMT -6
And there is certainly something to be said for consistency....
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Post by doctorwho on Oct 1, 2007 14:05:53 GMT -6
In other words.. typical politician and he has no love lost for his neighbors to the north: "Byline: Stacy St. Clair Daily Herald Staff Writer Bolingbrook Mayor Roger Claar sparked a minor diplomatic crisis a few years back when he told an anti-Naperville joke at a League of Women Voters dinner. "What's the difference between a Bolingbrook home and a Naperville home?" he asked. "A Bolingbrook home has furniture in it." The crowd groaned, then stewed for the rest of Claar's speech. Was he suggesting that we - gasp! -might live above our means in Naperville? "
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Post by casey on Oct 1, 2007 14:24:13 GMT -6
Prelim numbers are out. DPC got them from someone on the SB. NET +50 Actually, it'd be net 45. My neighbors moved out (minus 3 kids) and another (minus 2 kids) ;D. Bottom-line is net 50 isn't much of an increase/drain on our current system. I'll be anxious as to how the final numbers will come out, be interpreted, and therefore spun by our SB. For the record, I do think that we need that 3rd HS but maybe not as large?
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Post by Arch on Oct 1, 2007 15:29:13 GMT -6
Why do I have the feeling that the real spin will be those saying double digit grown is no big deal when the reality is the HS picture is a 4 year sliding window of those already in the system. *THAT* is what is important.
Same thing for the middle schools. Take a 3 year sliding window and look at the population numbers. That's what we have to accommodate.
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Post by harry on Oct 1, 2007 15:56:34 GMT -6
Why do I have the feeling that the real spin will be those saying double digit grown is no big deal when the reality is the HS picture is a 4 year sliding window of those already in the system. *THAT* is what is important. Same thing for the middle schools. Take a 3 year sliding window and look at the population numbers. That's what we have to accommodate. And we are accommodating those numbers between our current bricks and mortar just fine and have been since 2005. The SB needs to release the enrollment numbers before it moves ONE INCH forward in this land acquisition deal as we may not need it. Otherwise, appeal BB site....by the time that verdict comes thru and not on the side of dist 204, the numbers will show that we didn't need an addt'l 3000 seats to begin with
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Post by Arch on Oct 1, 2007 16:01:46 GMT -6
Why do I have the feeling that the real spin will be those saying double digit grown is no big deal when the reality is the HS picture is a 4 year sliding window of those already in the system. *THAT* is what is important. Same thing for the middle schools. Take a 3 year sliding window and look at the population numbers. That's what we have to accommodate. And we are accommodating those numbers between our current bricks and mortar just fine and have been since 2005. The SB needs to release the enrollment numbers before it moves ONE INCH forward in this land acquisition deal as we may not need it. Otherwise, appeal BB site....by the time that verdict comes thru and not on the side of dist 204, the numbers will show that we didn't need an addt'l 3000 seats to begin with The largest numbers are not within those bricks and mortars right now at the HS level. It may come as a shock to some, but the kids in middle school will actually physically go to new buildings when they are in grades 9 - 12. Equally shocking and amazing is that those in ES will go to different buildings for grades 6-8 also. I know.. I was just as floored to discover that's how it's done here... really..
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Post by gatormom on Oct 1, 2007 16:02:31 GMT -6
Why do I have the feeling that the real spin will be those saying double digit grown is no big deal when the reality is the HS picture is a 4 year sliding window of those already in the system. *THAT* is what is important. Same thing for the middle schools. Take a 3 year sliding window and look at the population numbers. That's what we have to accommodate. And we are accommodating those numbers between our current bricks and mortar just fine and have been since 2005. The SB needs to release the enrollment numbers before it moves ONE INCH forward in this land acquisition deal as we may not need it. Otherwise, appeal BB site....by the time that verdict comes thru and not on the side of dist 204, the numbers will show that we didn't need an addt'l 3000 seats to begin with I don't think so harry. The SB needs to have the money before they can proceed with BB otherwise they need to get other land. They don't need our permission to move forward. We have already said, you know when we voted yes on the referendum, we need the high school.
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Post by momof3 on Oct 1, 2007 16:14:07 GMT -6
They don't need our permission to move forward. We have already said, you know when we voted yes on the referendum, we need the high school. That is the bottom line. The SB & admin don't have to ask us how to proceed on building a 3rd high school. They can change the size/site/boundaries/%spent on land vs. building/etc. without asking. My understanding is that they DO have to ask if the plan is not to build a 3rd high school and they need additional funds to house students. 22. INDIAN PRAIRIE COMMUNITY UNIT SCHOOL DISTRICT NUMBER 204 PROPOSITION TO ISSUE $124,660,000.00 SCHOOL BUILDING BONDS Shall the Board of Education of Indian Prairie Community Unit School District Number 204, DuPage and Will Counties, Illinois, acquire and improve a high school site, build and equip one new high school building and issue the bonds of said School District to the amount of $124,660,000.00 for the purpose of paying the costs thereof?
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Post by bob on Oct 1, 2007 16:25:08 GMT -6
Why do I have the feeling that the real spin will be those saying double digit grown is no big deal when the reality is the HS picture is a 4 year sliding window of those already in the system. *THAT* is what is important. Same thing for the middle schools. Take a 3 year sliding window and look at the population numbers. That's what we have to accommodate. Over the next four years (starting this year), the HSs will pick up an extra 1265 students. And we are accommodating those numbers between our current bricks and mortar just fine and have been since 2005. The SB needs to release the enrollment numbers before it moves ONE INCH forward in this land acquisition deal as we may not need it. Otherwise, appeal BB site....by the time that verdict comes thru and not on the side of dist 204, the numbers will show that we didn't need an addt'l 3000 seats to begin with Over the next four years (starting this year), the HSs will pick up an extra 1265 students. 2015 9154 2014 9088 2013 9059 2012 9118 2011 9075 2010 8922 2009 8778 2008 8311
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Post by harry on Oct 1, 2007 16:29:23 GMT -6
And we are accommodating those numbers between our current bricks and mortar just fine and have been since 2005. The SB needs to release the enrollment numbers before it moves ONE INCH forward in this land acquisition deal as we may not need it. Otherwise, appeal BB site....by the time that verdict comes thru and not on the side of dist 204, the numbers will show that we didn't need an addt'l 3000 seats to begin with I don't think so harry. The SB needs to have the money before they can proceed with BB otherwise they need to get other land. They don't need our permission to move forward. We have already said, you know when we voted yes on the referendum, we need the high school. They don't "technically" need permission that is correct. But there will be an uprising if their 'predictions' aren't close to reality in regards to enrollment, which will cause people to force them to relook a the numbers or threaten to vote down on the 2009 referendum....
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Post by harry on Oct 1, 2007 16:31:12 GMT -6
Over the next four years (starting this year), the HSs will pick up an extra 1265 students. And we are accommodating those numbers between our current bricks and mortar just fine and have been since 2005. The SB needs to release the enrollment numbers before it moves ONE INCH forward in this land acquisition deal as we may not need it. Otherwise, appeal BB site....by the time that verdict comes thru and not on the side of dist 204, the numbers will show that we didn't need an addt'l 3000 seats to begin with Over the next four years (starting this year), the HSs will pick up an extra 1265 students. 2015 9154 2014 9088 2013 9059 2012 9118 2011 9075 2010 8922 2009 8778 2008 8311 Bob, unless you are a SB member and know these numbers to be true please stop displaying these false numbers These are projections only
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Post by Arch on Oct 1, 2007 16:38:22 GMT -6
There will be an uprising?
How come every time I hear about one it never happens? Will there be burning cars and trashed malls as a result?
I so miss the burning barrels.
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Post by harry on Oct 1, 2007 16:40:21 GMT -6
Over the next four years (starting this year), the HSs will pick up an extra 1265 students. And we are accommodating those numbers between our current bricks and mortar just fine and have been since 2005. The SB needs to release the enrollment numbers before it moves ONE INCH forward in this land acquisition deal as we may not need it. Otherwise, appeal BB site....by the time that verdict comes thru and not on the side of dist 204, the numbers will show that we didn't need an addt'l 3000 seats to begin with Over the next four years (starting this year), the HSs will pick up an extra 1265 students. 2015 9154 2014 9088 2013 9059 2012 9118 2011 9075 2010 8922 2009 8778 2008 8311 The HUGE p.s. to these projections are that they never ever hit the 10,400 student number that was used as a scare tactic to pass the referendum. We have 2 high schools, that accommodate 3000 students each and 2 Freshmen campuses that accommodate 1200 students each and Frontier Campus NOT AT CAPACITY of 600 students and that concept is growing.... We have enough space
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Post by harry on Oct 1, 2007 16:43:07 GMT -6
There will be an uprising? How come every time I hear about one it never happens? Will there be burning cars and trashed malls as a result? I so miss the burning barrels. You can 'make light' of the sitch...most don't look thru your glasses. The last uprising wasn't noisy...just a vote NO for the 2005 Referendum This will be repeated in the 2009 referendum...no trust in the SB
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