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Post by southsidemom on Sept 28, 2007 10:29:33 GMT -6
"I went thru the interview process last time and would gladly have accepted, but after working on campaigns this time, and seeing what 'stuff' ALL candidates put up with over the course of 6 - 8 weeks, the nastiness that affects not only them, but their families as well....anyone better think long and hard before running in 2009. People seem to forget these are residents of this district who live and sometimes work here, with children of their own etc"
Funny you should say that, DrWho, when so much of that activity was originated on this very board.
Let's hope our new Super has a few tricks in his hat. I guess he was being honest when he said he hadn't heard about any other Plans B, C, D or otherwise.
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Post by doctorwho on Sept 28, 2007 10:45:49 GMT -6
"I went thru the interview process last time and would gladly have accepted, but after working on campaigns this time, and seeing what 'stuff' ALL candidates put up with over the course of 6 - 8 weeks, the nastiness that affects not only them, but their families as well....anyone better think long and hard before running in 2009. People seem to forget these are residents of this district who live and sometimes work here, with children of their own etc" Funny you should say that, DrWho, when so much of that activity was originated on this very board. Let's hope our new Super has a few tricks in his hat. I guess he was being honest when he said he hadn't heard about any other Plans B, C, D or otherwise. this board was just a sounding board ( pun intended ) for many conversations / meetings already taking place in the community. |
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Post by lacy on Sept 28, 2007 11:14:19 GMT -6
Where i really mistrust the SB is on their decision making ability than their estimation of the numbers. I had conversations with 2 board members prior to the trial and asked them what the alternatives were if the jury were to come back with high numbers. They said they had no alternatives because they were "highly confident" in their $250,000 number. When I asked them to hypothetically think about a $400,000 to $500,000 number they restated their confidence in their number because their lawyer told them so. What businessman (and thats what they should be with the $ we are talking about) doesn't make alternative plans? They've been "highly confident" the entire time. And they've been wrong at every turn. Now I'm sure they'll be "highly confident" that they can find $16 million (maybe the tooth fairy?) and they'll be "highly confident" they can deliver a school equal to NVHS and WVHS. But the question is, when do more people start to say, "now, wait a minute...we've heard this before." |
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Post by warriorpride on Sept 28, 2007 11:19:48 GMT -6
Where i really mistrust the SB is on their decision making ability than their estimation of the numbers. I had conversations with 2 board members prior to the trial and asked them what the alternatives were if the jury were to come back with high numbers. They said they had no alternatives because they were "highly confident" in their $250,000 number. When I asked them to hypothetically think about a $400,000 to $500,000 number they restated their confidence in their number because their lawyer told them so. What businessman (and thats what they should be with the $ we are talking about) doesn't make alternative plans? They've been "highly confident" the entire time. And they've been wrong at every turn. Now I'm sure they'll be "highly confident" that they can find $16 million (maybe the tooth fairy?) and they'll be "highly confident" they can deliver a school equal to NVHS and WVHS. But the question is, when do more people start to say, "now, wait a minute...we've heard this before." As I mentioned earlier, it's not 16M, probably more like 8M-10M. And how about a school that's only equal to WV (since many thought that NV was extravagant)? Would that be OK? What if MV was built in a more boring, cost-conscious way? Note: my kids do & will go to WV now and under almost any new 3rd HS boundaries. |
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Post by gumby on Sept 28, 2007 11:25:59 GMT -6
I was under the impression that MV was quite scaled down from NV anyway.
Regardless, I'd be okay with that. I think most would.
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Post by movingforward on Sept 28, 2007 11:33:56 GMT -6
I was under the impression that MV was quite scaled down from NV anyway. Regardless, I'd be okay with that. I think most would. Agreed. Look at many of the prominent high schools in the area. Most are much more scaled down compared to NVHS. I suppose we should reserve our final judgement until 'scaled down' is truely definied though. ;D Nobody wants a one-room school house feel either! |
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Post by casey on Sept 28, 2007 11:38:59 GMT -6
Yeah and I'm curious with how many of you that agree to a "scaled down Neuqua" would have kids actually going to that scaled down Neuqua. Easy to say that you'd agree but maybe if it were your kids going there you might not be so quick to jump on that bandwagon. I would expect the schools to be equal no matter what and I would think that's what anyone would expect.
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Post by gumby on Sept 28, 2007 11:45:37 GMT -6
I'll have three there (eventually). I'd be more than willing to pay for an equal to NVHS school or better. But, the reality is that few others would.
At this point, I think we need to get the school, period. And if it's WVHS-like in terms of amenities and not NVHS, I can live with that. It's not what I prefer, but I think that's what it will take.
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Post by doctorwho on Sept 28, 2007 11:48:13 GMT -6
Yeah and I'm curious with how many of you that agree to a "scaled down Neuqua" would have kids actually going to that scaled down Neuqua. Easy to say that you'd agree but maybe if it were your kids going there you might not be so quick to jump on that bandwagon. I would expect the schools to be equal no matter what and I would think that's what anyone would expect. I am in an area assigned to go to MVHS - I have no issue if we are not talking about items needed for equal education. That is what people are referring to, not building a school without science labs. |
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Post by gatormom on Sept 28, 2007 11:49:43 GMT -6
I'll have three there (eventually). I'd be more than willing to pay for an equal to NVHS school or better. But, the reality is that few others would. At this point, I think we need to get the school, period. And if it's WVHS-like in terms of amenities and not NVHS, I can live with that. It's not what I prefer, but I think that's what it will take. Amenities are the same between WV and NV, its the packaging. WV is an older building. I will have 1 at MV and my older one graduated last year from WV. I agree gumby, we need the school. To be quite honest, I don't care where it is built just build it. |
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Post by movingforward on Sept 28, 2007 11:51:41 GMT -6
Yeah and I'm curious with how many of you that agree to a "scaled down Neuqua" would have kids actually going to that scaled down Neuqua. Easy to say that you'd agree but maybe if it were your kids going there you might not be so quick to jump on that bandwagon. I would expect the schools to be equal no matter what and I would think that's what anyone would expect. I will have two going there. I have a 6th and 7th grader now. Like I said in a previous post, until 'scaled down' is defined I cannot give a definitive answer on whether or not I am really 'cool' with that. I can say , that in general, I am perfectly content with a school that does not have every single bell and whistle that NVHS has. I am more concerned with teaching environment, programs offered and areas of education that IMO should all be EQUAL. |
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Post by warriorpride on Sept 28, 2007 11:55:21 GMT -6
Yeah and I'm curious with how many of you that agree to a "scaled down Neuqua" would have kids actually going to that scaled down Neuqua. Easy to say that you'd agree but maybe if it were your kids going there you might not be so quick to jump on that bandwagon. I would expect the schools to be equal no matter what and I would think that's what anyone would expect. Um, we go to WV - WV does not and will never match NV in terms of the appearance, design, layout or quality of materials. It's was added on to how many times, 3 or 4? When I first moved here, I thought it was either something industrial or a maybe a prison (seriously) - since it didn't have a sign out front. What the SD does do, however, is do its very best to provide equality on the inside, as far as classes, teachers and infrastrcuture, like computers - I am all for that kind of equality. I'm interested to see if the building materials & design can be more functional, in order to save money. As an example, the 95th street libary in Naperville is very, very nice. But I bet they could have provided the exact same square footage and amenities for a lot less with a more boring, conservative, utilitarian design & materials. |
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Post by warriorpride on Sept 28, 2007 11:58:09 GMT -6
Yeah and I'm curious with how many of you that agree to a "scaled down Neuqua" would have kids actually going to that scaled down Neuqua. Easy to say that you'd agree but maybe if it were your kids going there you might not be so quick to jump on that bandwagon. I would expect the schools to be equal no matter what and I would think that's what anyone would expect. I will have two going there. I have a 6th and 7th grader now. Like I said in a previous post, until 'scaled down' is defined I cannot give a definitive answer on whether or not I am really 'cool' with that. I can say , that in general, I am perfectly content with a school that does not have every single bell and whistle that NVHS has. I am more concerned with teaching environment, programs offered and areas of education that IMO should all be EQUAL. Well, NV lost the bell (or did they ever get it back), but they still have lots of whistles  |
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Post by Arch on Sept 28, 2007 12:04:40 GMT -6
Make the place look like a box if they have to to get it built and still have the right stuff on the inside.
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Post by rew on Sept 28, 2007 13:23:06 GMT -6
Would a 2500 student faclity be enough? Would people accept that? (Yes I know that is a BB mentality, but avoids delay). If you have 9100 kids in the pipeline currently and you have 4000 at NV and 3000 at WV than 2500 would accomodate the crush we know we have coming. Plus the new Frontier campus has capacity. Should we consider it?
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