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Post by gatormom on Oct 4, 2007 20:33:57 GMT -6
I'd like some real information before I decide whether or not it's best for us to proceed with BB. We don't get to decide whether to proceed with BB. The SB does, that is what they get paid the big bucks for.  |
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Post by macy on Oct 4, 2007 20:39:51 GMT -6
I'd like some real information before I decide whether or not it's best for us to proceed with BB. We don't get to decide whether to proceed with BB. The SB does, that is what they get paid the big bucks for. Of course the SB decides that. but don't you think they will present their thoughts to us? should present their thoughts to us? Wow, I guess I assumed most would understand I don't make the final decision. I was really talking about making the decision "in my head" .... not any decision/opinion that matters. It's pretty obvious to me that my opinion will never matter to many. Thanks for pointing that out. |
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Post by gatormom on Oct 4, 2007 20:43:12 GMT -6
We don't get to decide whether to proceed with BB. The SB does, that is what they get paid the big bucks for. Of course they do... but don't you think they will present their thoughts to us? should present their thoughts to us? Maybe not... I guess many would hope they won't listen to those of us that disagree. What a shame. Thanks for pointing that out. Oh course they should and I imagine they will. Just get tired of hearing folks demand this and the other thing without thinking those demands through. Do you know any of what the district has been doing this week? Me either. Before you jump all over the decisions they may or may not make, find out what brought them to that decision. Of course with the level of trust some have in the SB, it doesn't matter. The SB won't be believed anyway. |
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Post by macy on Oct 4, 2007 20:45:21 GMT -6
Of course they do... but don't you think they will present their thoughts to us? should present their thoughts to us? Maybe not... I guess many would hope they won't listen to those of us that disagree. What a shame. Thanks for pointing that out. Oh course they should and I imagine they will. Just get tired of hearing folks demand this and the other thing without thinking those demands through. Do you know any of what the district has been doing this week? Me either. Before you jump all over the decisions they may or may not make, find out what brought them to that decision. Of course with the level of trust some have in the SB, it doesn't matter. The SB won't be believed anyway. Gatormom, I'm not jumping all over anything they've done. They've told us all along if BB came in too high there would be options. What is wrong with asking for those options to be presented? What about that is demanding too much? Please tell me.. I really don't get it. Are you advocating complete trust in elected officials without being able to question decisions or ask for more information? I'm not criticizing them... just asking for more information. Are you saying that once someone's elected, you can't ask for more information from them? It's just "deal with it" they make the decisions? Actually, I'm done with this arguement. We obviously disagree on many things. I respect your opinion although still want to hear from the SB on the other options. Let's just leave it at that. |
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Post by Arch on Oct 4, 2007 20:45:52 GMT -6
Macy,
The truth is, our elected representatives on the board get to make that decision and justification. Not you, not me.
I imagine we will all find out that decision together at the same time.
We just have to live with it. What I know for a fact is that I'd much rather live with a new HS than not come 2-3 years down the line.
The logic to show how much BB has cost us can be said for any other parcel. If we change and go back to a negotiating table with another seller, the new parcel will cost us everything that BB has to date as well *PLUS* the new parcel and the baggage that comes the property *PLUS* the BB Fees of the latest trial if we walk away and we get to go back to the drawing boards for the site planning and probably architectural changes because of the differences in the land makeup of the parcels (joy).
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Post by gatormom on Oct 4, 2007 20:50:35 GMT -6
Macy, The truth is, our elected representatives on the board get to make that decision and justification. Not you, not me. I imagine we will all find out that decision together at the same time. We just have to live with it. What I know for a fact is that I'd much rather live with a new HS than not come 2-3 years down the line. The logic to show how much BB has cost us can be said for any other parcel. If we change and go back to a negotiating table with another seller, the new parcel will cost us everything that BB has to date as well *PLUS* the new parcel and the baggage that comes the property *PLUS* the BB Fees of the latest trial if we walk away and we get to go back to the drawing boards for the site planning and probably architectural changes because of the differences in the land makeup of the parcels (joy). And please don't forget the delight of selecting new boundaries because it went so well the first time. |
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Post by macy on Oct 4, 2007 20:53:06 GMT -6
Macy, The truth is, our elected representatives on the board get to make that decision and justification. Not you, not me. I imagine we will all find out that decision together at the same time. We just have to live with it. What I know for a fact is that I'd much rather live with a new HS than not come 2-3 years down the line. The logic to show how much BB has cost us can be said for any other parcel. If we change and go back to a negotiating table with another seller, the new parcel will cost us everything that BB has to date as well *PLUS* the new parcel and the baggage that comes the property *PLUS* the BB Fees of the latest trial if we walk away and we get to go back to the drawing boards for the site planning and probably architectural changes because of the differences in the land makeup of the parcels (joy). And please don't forget the delight of selecting new boundaries because it went so well the first time. To be honest, boundaries are the least of my worries at this point. |
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Post by Arch on Oct 4, 2007 20:54:11 GMT -6
If this were a landfill, the arguments would be the opposite
"Not in my backyard"
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Post by macy on Oct 4, 2007 20:55:02 GMT -6
If this were a landfill, the arguments would be the opposite "Not in my backyard" ?? Again, I'm lost here. What do you mean? |
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Post by gatormom on Oct 4, 2007 20:56:48 GMT -6
To be honest, boundaries are the least of my worries at this point. Glad someone is not worried because the minute they change, all heck is going to break loose. Except for a few areas, the boundaries have been accepted. Change them and people will be angry. Just my opinion. While you aren't worried, that is a major concern of mine. By the way if you think I want a particular school over another, didn't get the school I wanted but if the site changes, I just might. |
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Post by Arch on Oct 4, 2007 21:00:22 GMT -6
If this were a landfill, the arguments would be the opposite "Not in my backyard" ?? Again, I'm lost here. What do you mean? Mixed in with fiscal responsibility, road hazards, 2009 referendum jeopardy worry, boundaries, etc are also the undertones by some of wanting the school closest to where they live (perfectly normal human nature). Some for the north, some for the south, some for the middle-ish... each for their own reasons but each plays a part in one's stance. I just find it funny because if the issue was about where to put a landfill, people would be saying "don't put that thing in my backyard".. they would want it on the opposite side of town from where they live. |
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Post by macy on Oct 4, 2007 21:02:04 GMT -6
Of course they do... but don't you think they will present their thoughts to us? should present their thoughts to us? Maybe not... I guess many would hope they won't listen to those of us that disagree. What a shame. Thanks for pointing that out. Oh course they should and I imagine they will. Just get tired of hearing folks demand this and the other thing without thinking those demands through. Do you know any of what the district has been doing this week? Me either. Before you jump all over the decisions they may or may not make, find out what brought them to that decision. Of course with the level of trust some have in the SB, it doesn't matter. The SB won't be believed anyway. I'm not demanding anything other than what they SB said they would do... Present options. What is so worrisome or offensive about that? I'm not jumping on their decisions at all. Where on earth did I do that? If the SB wants credibility they should come out with other options, seek feedback and make a sound decision. That's all I expect from them But, if they do what many here have already decided they should do_ "bite the bullet" and pay for BB, I will be disappointed. |
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Post by gatormom on Oct 4, 2007 21:05:26 GMT -6
I'm not demanding anything other than what they SB said they would do... Present options. What is so worrisome or offensive about that? I'm not jumping on their decisions at all. Where on earth did I do that? If the SB wants credibility they should come out with other options, seek feedback and make a sound decision. That's all I expect from them But, if they do what many here have already decided they should do_ "bite the bullet" and pay for BB, I will be disappointed. So let them do their job. From all indications, the SB is seeking this information. Our feedback, doesn't matter. Their job is to make the best decision on the land site for every student in this district. They have financial restraints and an obligation to see that all students are served well. Something tells me if the SB decides that the best course of action is to bite the bullet and pay for BB, none of the work they do or the information they present will matter one bit to some people. |
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Post by Arch on Oct 4, 2007 21:05:33 GMT -6
Oh course they should and I imagine they will. Just get tired of hearing folks demand this and the other thing without thinking those demands through. Do you know any of what the district has been doing this week? Me either. Before you jump all over the decisions they may or may not make, find out what brought them to that decision. Of course with the level of trust some have in the SB, it doesn't matter. The SB won't be believed anyway. I'm not demanding anything other than what they SB said they would do... Present options. What is so worrisome or offensive about that? I'm not jumping on their decisions at all. Where on earth did I do that? If the SB wants credibility they should come out with other options, seek feedback and make a sound decision. That's all I expect from them But, if they do what many here have already decided they should do_ "bite the bullet" and pay for BB, I will be disappointed. And if through all of that they do what you ask and STILL decide to bite the bullet because they determine after working w/ the construction firm that they can afford BB and begin immediately will you still be disappointed? |
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Post by macy on Oct 4, 2007 21:07:53 GMT -6
I'm not demanding anything other than what they SB said they would do... Present options. What is so worrisome or offensive about that? I'm not jumping on their decisions at all. Where on earth did I do that? If the SB wants credibility they should come out with other options, seek feedback and make a sound decision. That's all I expect from them But, if they do what many here have already decided they should do_ "bite the bullet" and pay for BB, I will be disappointed. So let them do their job. From all indications, the SB is seeking this information. Our feedback, doesn't matter. Their job is to make the best decision on the land site for every student in this district. They have financial restraints and an obligation to see that all students are served well. Something tells me if the SB decides that the best course of action is to bite the bullet and pay for BB, none of the work they do or the information they present will matter one bit to some people. Gatormom, You and I obviously have different viewpoints. I respectfully disagree with you but do not want to get into a battle over who is right and who is wrong as I think it's very subjective at this point. Let's just agree to disagree. Our going back and forth with each other is doing no good. Sorry if I offended you. Didn't mean to. Just my thoughts. |
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