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Post by momof3 on Oct 12, 2007 15:49:59 GMT -6
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Post by doctorwho on Oct 12, 2007 16:54:34 GMT -6
Shame.... $17 million dollar land/road cost difference. Loss of millions spent on lobby for quick take (a complete loss), an access road off of 75th.... And, what the heck is going to be build on 59 and 75th, a big mystery, right? That makes a difference to me. I bet it's some crummy retailer. That makes it a "not so ideal" site for a high school. You mean like being down the street from a Dunkin Donuts or BurgerKing. The humanity of it! Maybe if they made the absolute corner a commuter park and ride it would enhance the appeal of the place. and what's on the corner of 95th and Rt 59 ? Art museums ? |
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Post by proschool on Oct 12, 2007 16:57:25 GMT -6
You mean like being down the street from a Dunkin Donuts or BurgerKing. The humanity of it! Maybe if they made the absolute corner a commuter park and ride it would enhance the appeal of the place. and what's on the corner of 95th and Rt 59 ? Art museums ? It's a buch of lousey retail. That's why everyone is trying so hard to get out of the NVHS attendance area. |
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Post by movingforward on Oct 12, 2007 17:06:08 GMT -6
There is a Spangler that is on the Board of Directors of Wheatland Bank. I wonder if they invested in Ashwood. www.obre.state.il.us/cbt/welcnews/news/2007/02012007WheatlandCharterPress.pdfBob, you are correct. Spangler's business is involved with land development. Infact he has been for many years and was involved in the development of the subdivision he resides in. The reporter (of the DH article) leads the reader to believe that Mr. Spangler is simply Mr. Joe Blow citizen. He is not. I have heard he is financially vested in the Ashwood Subdivision. He is most likely a front man and the $18,000 was not out of his own pocket, IMO. He and his business partners have every right to do what they did. Some of us will say, "good for him" and others will be appalled. It is more disturbing to me that the reporter did not fully educate the reader on Mr. Spanglers potential motivations. |
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Post by doctorwho on Oct 12, 2007 17:07:51 GMT -6
and what's on the corner of 95th and Rt 59 ? Art museums ? It's a buch of lousey retail. That's why everyone is trying so hard to get out of the NVHS attendance area. ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by proschool on Oct 12, 2007 17:08:40 GMT -6
So it is adjacent to the empty parcel that some identify as Calvary & some identify as the next portion of the subdivision? yes and it appears per the township that Calvary is the owner. It seems like I was mistaken about Stonehaven. I drove through there today and they have sold their models. It looks like they are done there. the land had some football teams practicing on it. It is very flat and seems like it it needs very little prep work. I wonder if Preit will be willing to sell us 10-15 acres of its land if we need it. The Priet land that touches the school district land that we own already doesn't seem to be very valuable to them because it is 1/4 mile from Route 59 and 1/2 mile from 75th Street. |
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Post by casey on Oct 12, 2007 17:37:19 GMT -6
I wonder if Preit will be willing to sell us 10-15 acres of its land if we need it. The Priet land that touches the school district land that we own already doesn't seem to be very valuable to them because it is 1/4 mile from Route 59 and 1/2 mile from 75th Street. Yeah, let's let our SD attorneys tell us exactly how much the property is worth! ;D |
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Post by harry on Oct 12, 2007 17:47:40 GMT -6
I wonder if Preit will be willing to sell us 10-15 acres of its land if we need it. The Priet land that touches the school district land that we own already doesn't seem to be very valuable to them because it is 1/4 mile from Route 59 and 1/2 mile from 75th Street. Yeah, let's let our SD attorneys tell us exactly how much the property is worth! ;D Silly Casey.... Who cares what it is worth??? They have it all figured out and didn't have to do any more 'work'. It is BB, who cares about the taxpayers money...They are in charge  |
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Post by proschool on Oct 12, 2007 17:56:03 GMT -6
Yeah, let's let our SD attorneys tell us exactly how much the property is worth! ;D Silly Casey.... Who cares what it is worth??? They have it all figured out and didn't have to do any more 'work'. It is BB, who cares about the taxpayers money...They are in charge Hey. I am just exploring the options. I wasn't talking about BB anyway; I was talking about land the school district owns, land that Calavry Church owns and maybe land that BB has sold to PREIT. What's it worth? Less than $500,000 per acre I am sure. Let's see what they want for it. |
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Post by warriorpride on Oct 12, 2007 18:08:41 GMT -6
There is a Spangler that is on the Board of Directors of Wheatland Bank. I wonder if they invested in Ashwood. www.obre.state.il.us/cbt/welcnews/news/2007/02012007WheatlandCharterPress.pdfBob, you are correct. Spangler's business is involved with land development. Infact he has been for many years and was involved in the development of the subdivision he resides in. The reporter (of the DH article) leads the reader to believe that Mr. Spangler is simply Mr. Joe Blow citizen. He is not. I have heard he is financially vested in the Ashwood Subdivision. He is most likely a front man and the $18,000 was not out of his own pocket, IMO. He and his business partners have every right to do what they did. Some of us will say, "good for him" and others will be appalled. It is more disturbing to me that the reporter did not fully educate the reader on Mr. Spanglers potential motivations. Great info & not a surprise really. Most people don't throw (or even have) $18k at issues that they want to impact. Now, having a large financial stake, with perhaps some backing/funding of others - that's another story. This forum continues to be the place where the details of news articles come out. Boy, these "reporters" sure just seem to spew out whatever they're fed. |
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Post by harry on Oct 12, 2007 18:09:35 GMT -6
There is a Spangler that is on the Board of Directors of Wheatland Bank. I wonder if they invested in Ashwood. www.obre.state.il.us/cbt/welcnews/news/2007/02012007WheatlandCharterPress.pdfBob, you are correct. Spangler's business is involved with land development. Infact he has been for many years and was involved in the development of the subdivision he resides in. The reporter (of the DH article) leads the reader to believe that Mr. Spangler is simply Mr. Joe Blow citizen. He is not. I have heard he is financially vested in the Ashwood Subdivision. He is most likely a front man and the $18,000 was not out of his own pocket, IMO. He and his business partners have every right to do what they did. Some of us will say, "good for him" and others will be appalled. It is more disturbing to me that the reporter did not fully educate the reader on Mr. Spanglers potential motivations. Follow the money...always Also, according to some on this board, the reporter can san whatever they want cause it's their paper. Apparently they did not want to present both sides. It just proves that you have to find your own truth hidden in everything, as posters did on this board. |
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Post by casey on Oct 12, 2007 18:14:31 GMT -6
This forum continues to be the place where the details of news articles come out. Boy, these "reporters" sure just seem to spew out whatever they're fed. Hey, just like Britt Carson. Now there's investigative and unbiased reporting . I've yet to see any retraction from the information she spewed out. But hey that's what she was fed. |
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Post by doctorwho on Oct 12, 2007 18:16:53 GMT -6
There is a Spangler that is on the Board of Directors of Wheatland Bank. I wonder if they invested in Ashwood. www.obre.state.il.us/cbt/welcnews/news/2007/02012007WheatlandCharterPress.pdfBob, you are correct. Spangler's business is involved with land development. Infact he has been for many years and was involved in the development of the subdivision he resides in. The reporter (of the DH article) leads the reader to believe that Mr. Spangler is simply Mr. Joe Blow citizen. He is not. I have heard he is financially vested in the Ashwood Subdivision. He is most likely a front man and the $18,000 was not out of his own pocket, IMO. He and his business partners have every right to do what they did. Some of us will say, "good for him" and others will be appalled. It is more disturbing to me that the reporter did not fully educate the reader on Mr. Spanglers potential motivations. Follow the money...always Also, according to some on this board, the reporter can san whatever they want cause it's their paper. Apparently they did not want to present both sides. It just proves that you have to find your own truth hidden in everything, as posters did on this board. sometimes it seems the reporters are just too lazy to follow a story - and let's face it they are not 'investigative reporters' - but still no excuse for not being able to put 2 and 2 together on -- doesn't think we need a school -- but do if it is at another location. No one takes up a cause they have absolutely no stake in and throws money at it - especially someone who is in business for themselves to make money. As you said, everyone needs to do their own homework on any reporting these days -if it is a topic of interest - seek more answers. And harry, you are right... in most cases on the news, money is a driving or at the very least a contributing force. |
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Post by momof3 on Oct 12, 2007 19:37:41 GMT -6
This forum continues to be the place where the details of news articles come out. Boy, these "reporters" sure just seem to spew out whatever they're fed. Hey, just like Britt Carson. Now there's investigative and unbiased reporting . I've yet to see any retraction from the information she spewed out. But hey that's what she was fed. In all fairness it was Melissa Jenco of the DH, not Britt Carson of the Sun. |
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Post by Arch on Oct 12, 2007 19:58:39 GMT -6
I still wonder if there isn't some attempt to block a religious site down there (south side)
Woops, no more land available down here since the HS is going in.. sorry.
Perhaps my hunch about PREIT was close to the mark too... Macy, do tell what happened there.
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