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[slp]

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momof3 said:

slp said:

I have an observation to make.

It appears that some in the community want to micro-manage a process that they are not privy to.

If the school board acts within their authority and remain within the $124M budget there is no justification for any outbursts or demands from taxpayers.

If the school board has a reckless disregard for the authority given to them and attempt to spend well over the budget, then I'll be a bit upset at that point. For now, I don't follow the logic of those pitted against the actions of the school board.

We recently moved here from a northern suburb to make my commute a bit more tolerable. One thing that attracted us to Naperville was the school system here. Work associates tell me that while there are those that are always unhappy with the district no matter what they do, that the district has always provided a quality education to their kids. That is what I am concerned with. I don't understand all of this micro-managing.

I don't know when you moved here, however, during the last school board election this spring, every encumbant running was re-elected. That leads me to beleive the majority of the voting public in the district agrees with you.

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slp said:

I have an observation to make.

It appears that some in the community want to micro-manage a process that they are not privy to.

If the school board acts within their authority and remain within the $124M budget there is no justification for any outbursts or demands from taxpayers.

If the school board has a reckless disregard for the authority given to them and attempt to spend well over the budget, then I'll be a bit upset at that point. For now, I don't follow the logic of those pitted against the actions of the school board.

We recently moved here from a northern suburb to make my commute a bit more tolerable. One thing that attracted us to Naperville was the school system here. Work associates tell me that while there are those that are always unhappy with the district no matter what they do, that the district has always provided a quality education to their kids. That is what I am concerned with. I don't understand all of this micro-managing.

you're dead on IMO slp --

[wvhsmomcares]

Yes, and that is the question; what property works best for the dollars. Maybe BB can be done better than 248th for the same dollars. Or, maybe the same dollars can be spent on 248th that provide what is needed.

Keep it simple; which is the best. And M2 and JC and the other go alongs will follow BG and CB are really nice people, but they have no backbone to differ. And if Stephens steps up, you may find a real debate. but, keep it in your mind, M2 and JC will be the deciding factor.

Thus, if they feel like looking deeper into 248th, they will. If not, they won't. but, this is not a democracy...this is Metzger and Clark land - and don't forget it.

They HAVE NEVER LOSSED. Period.

Good night.

[movingforward]

wvhsmomcares said:

Yes, and that is the question; what property works best for the dollars. Maybe BB can be done better than 248th for the same dollars. Or, maybe the same dollars can be spent on 248th that provide what is needed.

Keep it simple; which is the best. And M2 and JC and the other go alongs will follow BG and CB are really nice people, but they have no backbone to differ. And if Stephens steps up, you may find a real debate. but, keep it in your mind, M2 and JC will be the deciding factor.

Thus, if they feel like looking deeper into 248th, they will. If not, they won't. but, this is not a democracy...this is Metzger and Clark land - and don't forget it.

They HAVE NEVER LOSSED. Period.

Good night.

Metzger and Clark .....like the King and Queen of England!

Are they (like the King and Queen) Non-elected decision makers? No. They were elected by the community!

Whether you like that fact or not, it is the way a democracy works.

Now I am laughing picturing Metzger and Clark wearing those costumes for Halloween! ;D

[wvhsmomcares]

only one last comments; no one said they were non elected decision makers, they were elected; so is Putin : ) So was Castro. Yet, they're not that bad, more like the Mayor of Naperville or a Emil Jones or Michael Madigan. They are all elected too, but they do what they want, how they want.

Don't think of them in English costumes; think of them as Nancy Pelusi and well, let's see, Metzger, ahhhhhhhhh himmmmm how about a Barney Frank mixed with Knute Ginrich? Yah, that's it....

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wvhsmomcares said:

only one last comments; no one said they were non elected decision makers, they were elected; so is Putin : ) So was Castro. Yet, they're not that bad, more like the Mayor of Naperville or a Emil Jones or Michael Madigan. They are all elected too, but they do what they want, how they want.

Don't think of them in English costumes; think of them as Nancy Pelusi and well, let's see, Metzger, ahhhhhhhhh himmmmm how about a Barney Frank mixed with Knute Ginrich? Yah, that's it....

Will you run in 2009?

[wvhsmomcares]

I'm not complaining, I'm just telling you, if 248th goes, it's cause the two of them will consider it. If not, it's cause they don't want it.

Glawe may try to say something really nice and cordial and banker like, and CB is such a nice guy he can't be mean.... and the others will follow.

If 248th is where the school is, it's because M2 and JC decide so. That's all i'm saying.... same way a political leader does.

[wvhsmomcares]

Only with M2 support : )

[wvhsmomcares]

First rule in politics: your enemies will always vote against you, your friends who knows. Thus, make few enemies. M2 and JC are smart enough to know that the smaller vocal minority's vote who may be upset is not strong enough to hurt them.

Now, that's democracy!

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You certainly have a lot to say in this thread in just the three hours you've been here.

Any particular reason or do you just have a fondness for the British Royalty?

[momof3]

wvhsmomcares said:

First rule in politics: your enemies will always vote against you, your friends who knows. Thus, make few enemies. M2 and JC are smart enough to know that the smaller vocal minority's vote who may be upset is not strong enough to hurt them.

Now, that's democracy!

Agreed! That is why the majority elected them, to represent the majority, not the vocal minority. That's what is great about democracy, even if you write 10,000 LTEs or sit outside of executive session with a homemade "NO 3RD HIGH SCHOOL!" sign or develop all of the property in town (for those darn ungrateful homeowners!) your vote counts the same as everyone else.

[sd204taxpayer]

warriorpride said:

wvhsmomcares said:

lol, if 700 people showed up they'd have a separate informational workshop on the matter, get full reports on both properties, then make a decision. Yet, they have done a masterful job of not discussing the matter, therefore letting the time run out and then saying they do not have enough time. Yet, again, I would trust that if MACOM believes a a school can go there, it can. If they have all the tests performed, then they know it can work. Or why would they waste their time.

Because Lehman wants to cash in on the situation as quickly as possible. 1) sell land that would be difficult to sell houses on, given the market downturn AND given Peterson tagged as going to terrible WV; and 2) improve sales at Ashwood by getting Peterson out of terrible WV. Would anyone that has, does, or will go to WV want Lehman to benefit from this (other than maybe Ashwood)? I say give BB the $, which goes to charity.

Warrior,

What charities does Brach Brodiesupport? Do you know where the proceeds from this sale eventually get disbursed? I bet more has and will go to our community through Macom than ever will with Brach brodie. BB doesn't have any local ties - how would our community benefit from BB?

[sd204taxpayer]

movingforward said:

I took the liberty of transfering a post from another thread because it was very well said by justvote:

..... If a quality school can be built for the agreed upon price ($124MM) it makes absolutely no difference what percentage of the cost is land and what percentage of the cost is building.

The voters have spoken. The only ones who now want a "do-over" are those who have never wanted a third high school or those didn't like the boundaries.

Moving,

I supported the 3rd hs site and i'm in favor of a do over due do the SB's attitude of BB all the way no mmatter the cost. I also don't care about the boundaries. An 8 figure difference in cost is my big issue.

At the end of the day, nothing has changed that would warrant a "do-over" UNLESS the product in question cannot be delivered at the agreed upon price. End of story.

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sd204taxpayer said:

warriorpride said:

Because Lehman wants to cash in on the situation as quickly as possible. 1) sell land that would be difficult to sell houses on, given the market downturn AND given Peterson tagged as going to terrible WV; and 2) improve sales at Ashwood by getting Peterson out of terrible WV. Would anyone that has, does, or will go to WV want Lehman to benefit from this (other than maybe Ashwood)? I say give BB the $, which goes to charity.

Warrior,

What charities does Brach Brodiesupport? Do you know where the proceeds from this sale eventually get disbursed? I bet more has and will go to our community through Macom than ever will with Brach brodie. BB doesn't have any local ties - how would our community benefit from BB?

Please cite some examples and dollar figures to back your 'bet' that more will go to our community.

[sd204taxpayer]

momof3 said:

lacy said:

How are we every going to hear the facts - with the SB running off into executive session and not allowing public comment on agenda related items?

Just curious, what facts will they get from public comment? I'm not being sarcastic, just asking?

If I go and sign up and say "I am for the 3rd high school opening ASAP regardless of location" how is that a fact?

That's how it works. The sb does not answer during public comment.

If the SB would at least address the community and let them know what was being considered would go a long way. The more possibilities they have means they would have more negotiating power for lower land cost is my thought. I feel they are stalling so they can move forward with BB and state they had to make a quick decision and not enough time to fully research alternatives.