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Post by doctorwho on Oct 15, 2007 14:41:33 GMT -6
you have your answer GM - the answer is no. If it was yes it would be communicated as yes, like others have done re: the 248th site if that is selected as 'best'. We are supposed to say we'd support MACOM if that is the site chosen because it's for the good of the district -- however if it is determined that BB will work ( or Calvary ) - it will not be supported. for the record - if MACOM is chosen - I will be unhappy - likely very unhappy - but I would still support the 3rd HS there. Funny how that seems to be concensus from the pro BB people, but not the other way around. THAT is what the good of the district means - capitalizations or not. Not the good of the district as long as it is what I want. and before I get accused of twisting anyones words etc. it is a simple yes or no question - if the answer is not yes, it is no. I'm sorry you are having so much trouble understanding my position - but I am just focused on the here and now. You can ask a yes or no question, but you can't force someone to answer in a way that is suitable to you. You do not rule the world. Has nothing with what's suitable to me, it's a simple question, and the school decision IS the here and now. You consistently ask why people are against the 248th location and say we should support it if it is the best position - yet you will not make the call is BB is deemed the best location. The answer is obviously no - just don't understand why you can't stand by your convictions, rather than avoid any answer and try and deflect to a sidebar issue.
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Post by macy on Oct 15, 2007 14:43:44 GMT -6
But earlier newspaper articles indicated they had other sources of revenue to cover the gap at BB. How else could those sources be spent? Could they be spent in a way to benefit the ENTIRE (there are those caps again!) district? If so, they should not be thrown away on land when other alternatives exist. We covered all that in another thread. The interest earned must be spent on the referendum and the cash land donations must be spent for that reason. You can't take money from the referendum and get AC for the grade schools or raises for teachers or new IT equipment. You might be stating this Bob, But I believe you can use land cash donations for capital expenses/improvements. Air conditioning could be funded with land cash funds. That is my understanding of what those funds can be used for. Someone said earlier they needed to be used for land. As far as I know, that is untrue.
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Post by lacy on Oct 15, 2007 14:45:21 GMT -6
You and others spend what seems to me to be all of your time on this site promoting BB and disparaging (to great lengths) anything else - especially the Macom site.
So I'm finding it hard (very hard) to believe that Macom would ever be O.K. with you and some others on here.
You want so badly to put words in my mouth to further your campaign, but I'm not going to let you.
Have a nice day!
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Post by lacy on Oct 15, 2007 14:46:26 GMT -6
My last response was directed at Dr. Who - not Macy. Just wanted to clarify - I should have quoted the good Doctor.
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Post by Arch on Oct 15, 2007 14:49:21 GMT -6
We covered all that in another thread. The interest earned must be spent on the referendum and the cash land donations must be spent for that reason. You can't take money from the referendum and get AC for the grade schools or raises for teachers or new IT equipment. You might be stating this Bob, But I believe you can use land cash donations for capital expenses/improvements. Air conditioning could be funded with land cash funds. That is my understanding of what those funds can be used for. Someone said earlier they needed to be used for land. As far as I know, that is untrue. This is a misrepresentation of what I said earlier. It was said they (the funds) came into the district when the developers chose to donate CASH instead of LAND when they developed a particular parcel (or many for that matter). I further said that USING them to purchase LAND follows the original intent of the whole land/cash thing in the first place... land set aside for a school. I do not believe anyone stated they COULD NOT be used for other things.. only that using it FOR LAND made sense, given the original intent of why the district got that money in the first place. This was my exact post on 10/4/07 " Perhaps you misread what I posted. I know what land/cash is. I only stated that using those monies to purchase land does not seem like a far fetched idea since the cash was given in lieu of land in the first place... Not that it HAD to be used for that purpose, but using it to acquire land keeps with the original spirit of the provision more so than spending it on AC units. If the SB did spend it on AC, you and I both know the same people would be crying foul over that just as they are crying foul over possibly using it to pay for land instead of AC.
At least some things are still very predictable in life."
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Post by Arch on Oct 15, 2007 14:53:41 GMT -6
You and others spend what seems to me to be all of your time on this site promoting BB and disparaging (to great lengths) anything else - especially the Macom site. So I'm finding it hard (very hard) to believe that Macom would ever be O.K. with you and some others on here. You want so badly to put words in my mouth to further your campaign, but I'm not going to let you. Have a nice day! The only 'campaign' going on by those you are accusing is simply supporting the school board's decision, whatever that ends up being. So far, the decision is BB. We support that. If their decision gets changed, that will be supported too. Do you support any decision by our elected representatives and will you work with them to help do what you can to ensure the decision becomes a reality... whatever that decision ends up being ?
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Post by doctorwho on Oct 15, 2007 15:02:19 GMT -6
You and others spend what seems to me to be all of your time on this site promoting BB and disparaging (to great lengths) anything else - especially the Macom site. So I'm finding it hard (very hard) to believe that Macom would ever be O.K. with you and some others on here. You want so badly to put words in my mouth to further your campaign, but I'm not going to let you. Have a nice day! You can choose to believe whatever you like......I am 3rd HS first, and then BB - always have been. You seem to like to question motives a lot, yet don't llike it much when people question yours. Just as you have already in the past accused me of supporting BB only to 'gain' in your mind something out of this. I have already stated that I was fine with any of the 3 schools - I have yet to see you do likewise. Unless there is a real good streak of happenings, 2009 is fading fast - which means my daughter goes to WVHS for 4 years (btw - her 1st choice ). I am proud to be a Warrior Dad again....just as I would have been proud at MV or NV. I happen to believe BB is the best location ( or the Calvary property next to the 25 acres) - that is my right even if I do not have a child who will attend the school, it is the best location to me for all involved. It's that simple - period. If MACOM is chosen and somehow the statements from Paul Lehman are true about being able to start now ( just don't see how) - and boundaries don't change and we once again in this area go to the furthest away school - driving past NV to get there, I will be unhappy but I will support the school and make the best of it. If the boundaries change and I get assigned to NV the then closest school, I will also support it and make the best of it. If the boundaries change and we go to WVHS - then it is no different than at any other of the 18 years I have lived here - and that will be just fine. So spin any way you like - No, I do not want the MACOM property at the far end of the district - even though some think the north end of the district starts around 83rd street. I have been very clear on that. But, if tonight it is shown that is the best location for all involved, I will absolutely support it - whether you want to believe that or not is immaterial. Unfortunately you can't make the reciprocal statement. And I do not have to put words in your mouth - it is clear to everyone where you stand by your non answers -- and that is your right - everyone gets to make up their own mind what they would want or not want -
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Post by momof3 on Oct 15, 2007 15:15:01 GMT -6
Maybe you could ask Momof3. She claims to know how many are on each side of the issues. I do have access to the precinct results. So do you - it's public info.
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Post by lacy on Oct 15, 2007 16:06:22 GMT -6
Maybe you could ask Momof3. She claims to know how many are on each side of the issues. I do have access to the precinct results. So do you - it's public info. The situation has changed since the referendum (in terms of the price of the land and the enrollment numbers). Accordingly, it's anyone's guess as to how people feel at this point. And to claim that you are in the "majority" is a wild guess.
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Post by Arch on Oct 15, 2007 16:10:09 GMT -6
I do have access to the precinct results. So do you - it's public info. The situation has changed since the referendum (in terms of the price of the land and the enrollment numbers). Accordingly, it's anyone's guess as to how people feel at this point. And to claim that you are in the "majority" is a wild guess. Unless there's some new issue on the ballot, I do not see where this really even matters at this point.
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