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Post by lacy on Oct 14, 2007 18:05:11 GMT -6
I'm annoyed that you wouldn't be interested in hearing the details of something that could benefit the entire district. I hope they get a chance to speak. Didn't we elect the SB members to act in the best interests of ALL the children of our district? And to be good stewards of the taxpayers' money? To shut the door on hearing a viable option would be to grossly neglect both of the above. If they do that, I would like to know how we could recall them all. I would be annoyed if I got an email urging me to go and sit outside of an executive session. That's all. It will most likely be very late when they are finished and normal folks who have to be up early won't wait it out. The email makes no mention of this. It just urges people to sit outside a closed meeting for gosh-knows-how-long. Not productive, imo. Writing an email to the board with your opinion seems like a better use of time. Sounds like you don't want people to go. Why?
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Post by macy on Oct 14, 2007 18:06:12 GMT -6
I'm annoyed that you wouldn't be interested in hearing the details of something that could benefit the entire district. I hope they get a chance to speak. Didn't we elect the SB members to act in the best interests of ALL the children of our district? And to be good stewards of the taxpayers' money? To shut the door on hearing a viable option would be to grossly neglect both of the above. If they do that, I would like to know how we could recall them all. I would be annoyed if I got an email urging me to go and sit outside of an executive session. That's all. It will most likely be very late when they are finished and normal folks who have to be up early won't wait it out. The email makes no mention of this. It just urges people to sit outside a closed meeting for gosh-knows-how-long. Not productive, imo. Writing an email to the board with your opinion seems like a better use of time. momof3 While I agree with the facts you've shared, the SB hasn't offered a forum for public input. They don't have to. I'm distressed that they haven't offered residents to express their thoughts. I will go even though I know there will be no public input session. What else can you do? I've sent emails and gotten no response. Don't know what else to do than go tomorrow and hope they will let us give our opinion.
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Post by momof3 on Oct 14, 2007 18:08:47 GMT -6
I have nothing against the Macom site if it comes in cheaper after all expenses are factored in. This e-mail should have been simple to get support for that site. **Support the Macom Site, if it comes in cheaper than BB** All the other garbage makes it looks like the author has a lack of knowledge of the situation. If someone going to do an e-mail blast, better have to have links to back up your statements. Didn't the email say PL was going to be at the SB meeting? I will show to listen to him address the issues. Now that makes sense to me. The email writer wants an audience for PL, not a chance to discuss this with the school board. Fair enough.
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Post by bob on Oct 14, 2007 18:09:38 GMT -6
*Boundaries will change - no they won't I guess that means the Ashwoods would stay at Waubonsie. Considering that the state rule for non-bussing is a continuous side walk from the school withe 1.5 mile and no hazard intersection. Just imagine if something like a non continuous sidewalk could make Ashwood bussers. Just looked at the map, who is going to put the sidewalk in from 103rd up to at least Lapp Lane?
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Post by lacy on Oct 14, 2007 18:10:34 GMT -6
The SB should listen to ALL options. I am for the 3rd HS no matter where it ends ups and even if we have to redo boundaries. However, I think the content of this thread was regarding the misleading and incorrect information in this mass email that was sent out. It is also my understanding that only non-agenda items can now be addressed during public comment (correct me if I am wrong; Another point that the sender of the email got wrong). According to the agenda "Pending Litigation and Acquisition of Real Property" a topic of discussion and therefore public comment would not be allowed. The SB must give 48 hour notice of meetings and agenda's. P R E P A R I N G A L L S T U D E N T S T O S U C C E E D Crouse Education Center P.O. Box 3990, Naperville, IL 60567 phone: 630–375–3000 • fax: 630–375–3001 • web: www.ipsd.org________________________________________________________________________ Board of Education Offices October 15, 2007 Crouse Education Center Special Meeting, Board of Education Agenda – start: 7:15 p.m. AGENDA I. Call to Order - Roll Call II. Pledge of Allegiance III. Executive Session to Discuss Pending Litigation and Acquisition of Real Property IV. Persons Requesting to Address the Board on Non-Agenda Items V. Adjournment 10/11/07jb Why do I feel like I'm living in a communist country? ? Wouldn't it be more likely that someone might have a comment regarding an issue that's on the agenda rather than one that's not? It seems that they have created a situation where they are discouraging public input. Sounds pretty un-American to me.
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Post by Arch on Oct 14, 2007 18:13:43 GMT -6
Would someone please post the FULL HEADERS of the email which includes the originating IP. Why? So you can harrass them??? Sorry, internet harassment went out of fashion back in 1992. Only a fool would try something that stupid now, with all of the logging that goes on everywhere. I'm merely curious where it originated from.
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Post by lacy on Oct 14, 2007 18:14:01 GMT -6
Nothing like asking for a lawsuit. Wow... or possibly accusing a innocent person when the accusers couldn't tell the difference between n and ns. or providing some information about their children? Like where they go to school, what sports they play? That kind of thing has no place on this board.
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Post by macy on Oct 14, 2007 18:14:16 GMT -6
Didn't the email say PL was going to be at the SB meeting? I will show to listen to him address the issues. Now that makes sense to me. The email writer wants an audience for PL, not a chance to discuss this with the school board. Fair enough. Like I said before. I have emailed the board and gotten NO RESPONSE. Why would I not go? The board has provided NO FEEDBACK to residents on what alternate properties they are looking at. I'd show up to hear about St. John's as well. I've heard nothing there either. I don't care about any land owner's motivations and frankly don't care who gains if the SB can build the school they promised on the most affordable peice of land. If St. John's or Macom is a viable site and less expensive than paying 518K an acre plus damages, I'm for either site regardless of a boundary change. I don't want a scaled down school that costs more than it should. What is wrong with hearing about other options? Why does that frighten people so much?
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Post by lacy on Oct 14, 2007 18:15:34 GMT -6
Why? So you can harrass them??? Sorry, internet harassment went out of fashion back in 1992. Only a fool would try something that stupid now, with all of the logging that goes on everywhere. I'm merely curious where it originated from. Why? what difference would it really make? You are obviously unhappy about it. why shouldn't the SB listen to viable options? what's the harm in that?
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Post by momof3 on Oct 14, 2007 18:16:32 GMT -6
I would be annoyed if I got an email urging me to go and sit outside of an executive session. That's all. It will most likely be very late when they are finished and normal folks who have to be up early won't wait it out. The email makes no mention of this. It just urges people to sit outside a closed meeting for gosh-knows-how-long. Not productive, imo. Writing an email to the board with your opinion seems like a better use of time. Sounds like you don't want people to go. Why? macy pointed out that Paul Lehman will be there to address the crowd - the sb will be in executive session and unavailable - that's fine - it's just that people shouldn't go expecting to address the sb, unless they want to stay there later than a tribe rally in the 11th. If you want to go listen to Paul, great, I'm not stopping anyone.
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Post by bob on Oct 14, 2007 18:17:30 GMT -6
Now that makes sense to me. The email writer wants an audience for PL, not a chance to discuss this with the school board. Fair enough. Like I said before. I have emailed the board and gotten NO RESPONSE. Why would I not go? The board has provided NO FEEDBACK to residents on what alternate properties they are looking at. I'd show up to hear about St. John's as well. I've heard nothing there either. To me, I'm questioning no motivations and frankly don't care. If St. John's or Macom is a viable site and less expensive than paying 518K an acre plus damages, I'm for either site regardless of a boundary change. I don't want a scaled down school that costs more than it should. What is wrong with hearing about other options? Why does that frighten people so much? I agree. One of the reasons I believe that they aren't talking is why show your hand when you are dealing with 3-4 sites.
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Post by macy on Oct 14, 2007 18:18:40 GMT -6
Sounds like you don't want people to go. Why? macy pointed out that Paul Lehman will be there to address the crowd - the sb will be in executive session and unavailable - that's fine - it's just that people shouldn't go expecting to address the sb, unless they want to stay there later than a tribe rally in the 11th. If you want to go listen to Paul, great, I'm not stopping anyone. Momof3 Good point. I'll bring my sleeping bag as I'm sure they will be in executive session for a while. If PL is willing to share with those waiting details on his parcel, it's worth going. Again, those details are not being shared by the SB. At least not to me. I've not gotten a single email response from the SB. No information. Why wouldn't I go? To me, it's viable until I hear otherwise, to you, maybe not worth the wait. In either case, it's worth going.
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Post by Arch on Oct 14, 2007 18:19:24 GMT -6
The SB should listen to ALL options. I am for the 3rd HS no matter where it ends ups and even if we have to redo boundaries. However, I think the content of this thread was regarding the misleading and incorrect information in this mass email that was sent out. It is also my understanding that only non-agenda items can now be addressed during public comment (correct me if I am wrong; Another point that the sender of the email got wrong). According to the agenda "Pending Litigation and Acquisition of Real Property" a topic of discussion and therefore public comment would not be allowed. The SB must give 48 hour notice of meetings and agenda's. P R E P A R I N G A L L S T U D E N T S T O S U C C E E D Crouse Education Center P.O. Box 3990, Naperville, IL 60567 phone: 630–375–3000 • fax: 630–375–3001 • web: www.ipsd.org________________________________________________________________________ Board of Education Offices October 15, 2007 Crouse Education Center Special Meeting, Board of Education Agenda – start: 7:15 p.m. AGENDA I. Call to Order - Roll Call II. Pledge of Allegiance III. Executive Session to Discuss Pending Litigation and Acquisition of Real Property IV. Persons Requesting to Address the Board on Non-Agenda Items V. Adjournment 10/11/07jb Why do I feel like I'm living in a communist country? ? Wouldn't it be more likely that someone might have a comment regarding an issue that's on the agenda rather than one that's not? It seems that they have created a situation where they are discouraging public input. Sounds pretty un-American to me. Where in the heck do you draw that conclusion from? Our own Congress often uses procedures and rules to stop debate and stall tactics and proceed with moving things through. Do you consider the US Congress institution and its rules to be the work of communists too?
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Post by Arch on Oct 14, 2007 18:21:16 GMT -6
Sorry, internet harassment went out of fashion back in 1992. Only a fool would try something that stupid now, with all of the logging that goes on everywhere. I'm merely curious where it originated from. Why? what difference would it really make? You are obviously unhappy about it. why shouldn't the SB listen to viable options? what's the harm in that? I like to understand who is putting out valid information and who is putting out BS information. It would be nice to hold someone to the claim that no boundaries will change just as I am certain that you would like to hold someone to the claim that the tax payers would not be asked for any more money to complete a 3rd high school.
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Post by wvhsmomcares on Oct 14, 2007 18:22:21 GMT -6
I am worried that the School Board will look for reasons why the BB land works, instead of taking a step back and allowing for a direct comparison of both properties.
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