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Post by Arch on Oct 25, 2007 14:11:30 GMT -6
While I am not a fan of M2, even that senario is a stretch for me to believe. It's no surprise that I'm not a big fan of MM but I had never had contact with Senator Holmes before this and I can't figure out why she would make this up. For the record, I also spoke with Senator Halvorson regarding this issue. Again, I think it's all politics. MM gets support for QT with boundary changes and Senator Holmes gets support from the SB and taxpayers (especially Ashwood). Remember, there can be some deep pockets involved. The truth of the matter is it happens all the time in politics - one hand washes the other. By this logic, couldn't those deep pockets also have told her that they would only donate and or vote for her if she insisted the SB redo the boundaries for their neighborhood? |
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Post by doctorwho on Oct 25, 2007 14:13:04 GMT -6
I will say that I did personally speak with Linda Holmes and disagree with your comments completely. That is not what she lead me to believe occurred. Then she lied to one of us  . So unusual for a politician  |
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Post by EagleDad on Oct 25, 2007 14:16:04 GMT -6
You will have company there. And I am also in her district. rew and gatormom, Save some room on the Beat Holmes Bandwagon for me! I'm not in her district, but I'll be donating to whoever runs against her (hopefully a nice conservative). I decided this when I called and spoke to her during the push for QT. Rather than listening what I had to say on the issue, she proceeded to irrationally tirade to me. When she informed me that it was a 30 minute bus ride each way from Ashwood Park to WVHS I knew I was no longer speaking to a rational person who should be representing our community. |
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Post by casey on Oct 25, 2007 14:23:40 GMT -6
By this logic, couldn't those deep pockets also have told her that they would only donate and or vote for her if she insisted the SB redo the boundaries for their neighborhood? Absolutely and we'll never know if that happened or not. I just don't want to sit back and watch others trash Senator Holmes's reputation based on thinking that she orchestrated the boundary deal. Bottom-line is that the truth probably lies somewhere in-between. Maybe she cut some deals in there and maybe MM did but we won't ever know the real truth - 3 sides to every story. |
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Post by Arch on Oct 25, 2007 14:27:51 GMT -6
I find absolutely no rationale for MM ever bringing boundaries into anything related to QT. There's just no bleed over at that level. So I would imagine the truth lies closer to the named subdivision and some vocal minority there that insists on getting everything their way or no way. That's my personal take on it.
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Post by rew on Oct 25, 2007 14:32:09 GMT -6
I would guess it might even be deeper pockets...like builders and/or developers...who knows?? Seems to me she was very concerned about what? fifty homeowners in Ashwood?
Like, ED, you don't have to live in her district to support the cause!
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Post by casey on Oct 25, 2007 15:24:20 GMT -6
Ok, everyone, get ready to jump on me but I never understood the Ashwood boundary decision anyway. Let me start off by saying that I have no affiliation with Ashwood - don't know a single person that lives there, never put foot in the subdivision, don't really know anything about it but I have never understood why that school was scheduled to go to WVHS. This is by no way a slam to WVHS - it's just simply my opinion. They are an island.
For the record, I also never understood the Brookdale move or the Gombert move. I'm not trying to open up the whole boundary thing again (it's a moot point anyway) but I do think the whole Ashwood boundary decision was flawed.
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Post by justvote on Oct 25, 2007 15:29:54 GMT -6
Ok, everyone, get ready to jump on me but I never understood the Ashwood boundary decision anyway. Let me start off by saying that I have no affiliation with Ashwood - don't know a single person that lives there, never put foot in the subdivision, don't really know anything about it but I have never understood why that school was scheduled to go to WVHS. This is by no way a slam to WVHS - it's just simply my opinion. They are an island. For the record, I also never understood the Brookdale move or the Gombert move. I'm not trying to open up the whole boundary thing again (it's a moot point anyway) but I do think the whole Ashwood boundary decision was flawed. If the decision is to build on BB, they will not be an island in the future. The Macom land will be a townhome development. What's your next excuse, I mean reason, for wanting the boundaries for Ashwood Creek/Park changed? |
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Post by wvhsparent on Oct 25, 2007 16:54:06 GMT -6
Ok, everyone, get ready to jump on me but I never understood the Ashwood boundary decision anyway. Let me start off by saying that I have no affiliation with Ashwood - don't know a single person that lives there, never put foot in the subdivision, don't really know anything about it but I have never understood why that school was scheduled to go to WVHS. This is by no way a slam to WVHS - it's just simply my opinion. They are an island. For the record, I also never understood the Brookdale move or the Gombert move. I'm not trying to open up the whole boundary thing again (it's a moot point anyway) but I do think the whole Ashwood boundary decision was flawed. I understand, your confusion casey. There were several things about the process that were odd, but IIRC their reasoning was to balance achievement. I do not think it was done to "punish" anyone. There was no room for them at NVHS and they would actually be farther from MVHS than WVHS (straight shot up Eola RD). |
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Post by macy on Oct 25, 2007 17:14:03 GMT -6
Can we get back to the thread topic? I think we all have our opinion of Senator Holmes and the quick take and obviously unless we know what really happened nobody's opinion is going to change as a result of this discussion.
Deadline as it stands for a BB decision is Saturday.
Does anyone really think a decision will/can be made by then? I'm thinking no at this point. My best guess (and yes, it's just MY guess) is that there will be (if there hasn't been already) a request from the district for an extension on the BB decision.
I'm not saying this is a bad idea. I don't know where they are at in evaluation of options. It's killing me though because personally, I'd like the decision to be made so that we can all move on.
ETA: I've got some serious laundry to do that I've been neglecting because I'm sitting here at my computer. Anyone else having that problem?
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Post by Arch on Oct 25, 2007 17:17:45 GMT -6
Do I think a decision can be made by then? Absolutely. Does someone have the guts to just rip the bandaid off and deal with the task at hand of constructing and opening MVHS instead of perpetually playing the 'What If' game until we like the 'if' ? I sure hope so.
RE: dirty laundry... Yes, that's common w/ a message board.
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Post by doctorwho on Oct 25, 2007 17:19:16 GMT -6
Can we get back to the thread topic? I think we all have our opinion of Senator Holmes and the quick take and obviously unless we know what really happened nobody's opinion is going to change as a result of this discussion. Deadline as it stands for a BB decision is Saturday. Does anyone really think a decision will/can be made by then? I'm thinking no at this point. My best guess (and yes, it's just MY guess) is that there will be (if there hasn't been already) a request from the district for an extension on the BB decision. I'm not saying this is a bad idea. I don't know where they are at in evaluation of options. It's killing me though because personally, I'd like the decision to be made so that we can all move on. ETA: I've got some serious laundry to do that I've been neglecting because I'm sitting here at my computer. Anyone else having that problem? Well I don't do laundry ( not a chauvinist thing - just we have different roles - for instance I do all the cooking ) - but most everything I have is backed up at this point as I to want to move forward......short of an appeal I am not sure how they could delay BB ( and my understanding is that those appeals are rarely successful- and would cost more $) - |
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Post by macy on Oct 25, 2007 17:19:25 GMT -6
Arch,
I agree with you, however have a gut feeling there will be a request for an extension.
Rip the band aid off, yes-agree. It will be painful for some of us but, it's time to go forward.
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Post by macy on Oct 25, 2007 17:24:09 GMT -6
You cook? Wow...
Not sure they can get an extension, but somehow, I don't think they are close to a decision. Complete speculation on my part. I think we'd be hearing something if they were close.
After all, it's been a quick 30 days. How can you gather that much information for such a huge decision so quickly? That leads me to believe a request for an extension of the decision (not an appeal) might be a possibility.
I hope not. I simply want a decision at this point. No more delay. Time to move on.
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Post by doctorwho on Oct 25, 2007 17:31:04 GMT -6
You cook? Wow... Not sure they can get an extension, but somehow, I don't think they are close to a decision. Complete speculation on my part. I think we'd be hearing something if they were close. After all, it's been a quick 30 days. How can you gather that much information for such a huge decision so quickly? That leads me to believe a request for an extension of the decision (not an appeal) might be a possibility. I hope not. I simply want a decision at this point. No more delay. Time to move on. yeah , while I went to college, my best friend went to Culinary school - so I ate very well and learned a whole lot. He has been at the Drake for years in downtown Chicago.. -- but I do not do the dishes -- give and take. Let's hope for an answer - but not sure we'll have a final one - who knows kinda like reading a book and someone keeps adding chapters as you go along. |
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