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Post by proschool on Oct 28, 2007 20:11:59 GMT -6
Modified it sorry Owen. Owen is a dilemma. Half of it is closer to Macom and half is closer to NV. How would youfeel about splitting? Forget it. I think all of Owen is closer to NV. |
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Post by Arch on Oct 28, 2007 20:14:02 GMT -6
DPC, are you just talking hypothetical what-ifs here or do you know something we don't?
We could spend all day playing the 'What if' boundary question if the City of Naperville decided to split the MM land between D203 and D204 too, but what fruit would either actually bear at this time?
So far, it just sounds like the classic "Let's you and him fight".
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Post by doctorwho on Oct 28, 2007 20:14:21 GMT -6
Modified it sorry Owen. Owen is a dilemma. Half of it is closer to Macom and half is closer to NV. How would youfeel about splitting? Forget it. I think all of Owen is closer to NV. gotta believe that -- Watts and Cowlishaw ( south of the north end of Owen) are all closer to NV today. |
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Post by rew on Oct 28, 2007 20:17:31 GMT -6
MO3, I didn't crunch the numbers for that scenario. If WV is slated to get about 4400 kids at build out and you keep it at 4200 capacity.The boundary for WV would most likely stay the same?? except for one ES moving out...for Macom thatwould probaby be GOM?? But how do people feel about that?
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Post by doctorwho on Oct 28, 2007 20:18:25 GMT -6
I've never seen that SD 'philosophy' anywhere but where you have typed it. The metrics of it all usally centered around transportation costs -- what happened to all the 'fiduciary responsibility' screaming ? So those walkers are going to replace getting tour busses for some other areas ? I don't think so - not even counting the fact you might have to move others real close to WV to make this happen. Also in HS many/most kids drive - is safety and distance not an issue for you as long as a few areas shorten their route while the majority lengthen theirs appreciably ? And I don't need you to twist my words - I stated the 3rd HS is needed - just as with any site - I do not feel it should serve a select area instead of the district. No matter how hard you try and twist this - the majority of the students in thos distrcit - BY FAR - are WV south -- so there is no transportation savings in a northern site. So YES, I am saying there are not enough northern students to fill a Northern HS -- do the math and dispute that fact  And I can't help but notice you never answered the question how your area would like it if you were assigned to MACOM HS and Gregory MS - same distances you are proposing for some. Why is that ? And I can't help but notice that you never answered my question. You simply replied back with a question to me which speaks volumes. IMHO, if the church site were selected, you would do everything in your power to fight it but yet you expect everyone to bow down to the almighty BB site. Why is that? You missed your calling as a mind reader- ( but you would not have been very good at it) Please highlight somewhere in my posts where I said " I will fight this with all in my power" -- now you are just projecting, and really sadly so. I said it was extremely unfair./ cost ineffective. Did you do the math ? Did you find the other 600 students in the north ? No - of course not - just tales of legions of walkers to HS - which of course we all know happens a lot  When you can put together an actual business case to show how the northern site works anywhere near as well as the BB site - then let me know -- otherwise try and stick to the facts. What speaks volumes is you use all conjecture - not a single fact except one with no back up on 'savings' from the thousands of walkers ( ignoring all of the increased travel to get to that end of the district) ...where have I heard this story before ? Meanwhile - how about those MACOM and Gregory scenarios - supporting those are ya for a MACOM site selection ? After all what's fair is fair and I suspect there are plenty of 'potential' walkers there also. |
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Post by proschool on Oct 28, 2007 20:19:29 GMT -6
gotta believe that -- Watts and Cowlishaw ( south of the north end of Owen) are all closer to NV today. Well yeah. They are also north of the Owen's south end. Not to mention they are east of the west end and west of the east end. The North end of Owen is up by the train station. The South end is at Montgomery Road. The west end backs to Frontinac and the east end is at Modaff. |
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Post by momof3 on Oct 28, 2007 20:20:57 GMT -6
MO3, I didn't crunch the numbers for that scenario. If WV is slated to get about 4400 kids at build out and you keep it at 4200 capacity.The boundary for WV would most likely stay the same?? except for one ES moving out...for Macom thatwould probaby be GOM?? But how do people feel about that? I can't speak for Gombert, but I think most would be happy with that. |
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Post by title1parent on Oct 28, 2007 20:21:16 GMT -6
Put us where we need to go. We accepted along time ago, that we were going to MV. IF a northern site is chosen, most likely, we get our dream...WV. However, a northern site doesn't seem to make things logistically easy for this district. If BB is chosen, we are fine with that, if Macom is chosen...we will go because that is where we will be assigned. We want what works out best for this district AS A WHOLE...not as an individual school.
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Post by rew on Oct 28, 2007 20:24:06 GMT -6
Owen west of Rt59 is pretty close to Macom by way of Normantown??
Wait the north end of Owen is up by the trainstation???The Rt 59 Metra station???
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Post by doctorwho on Oct 28, 2007 20:25:47 GMT -6
Owen west of Rt59 is pretty close to Macom by way of Normantown?? the question is - would we even consider splitting an ES ? |
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Post by momof3 on Oct 28, 2007 20:27:39 GMT -6
Owen west of Rt59 is pretty close to Macom by way of Normantown?? the question is - would we even consider splitting an ES ? Don't we have split ESs in the current plan? McCarty and Cowlishaw? |
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Post by proschool on Oct 28, 2007 20:30:31 GMT -6
Owen west of Rt59 is pretty close to Macom by way of Normantown?? the question is - would we even consider splitting an ES ? No thanks. I was at the boundary meetings and there were plenty of those from all over the district who wanted the new school in the South. If it goes southe let's send some southern elementary schools there. |
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Post by rew on Oct 28, 2007 20:31:12 GMT -6
They did split ESs in the last boundary options...MCTY and currently Builta gets plit at the MS level, south Builta goes to Crone, north builta goes to Gregory(I think, correct me if I'm wrong)
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Post by proschool on Oct 28, 2007 20:33:16 GMT -6
Owen west of Rt59 is pretty close to Macom by way of Normantown?? Wait the north end of Owen is up by the trainstation???The Rt 59 Metra station??? Yes. Leigh High Station. |
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Post by momof3 on Oct 28, 2007 20:35:59 GMT -6
Owen west of Rt59 is pretty close to Macom by way of Normantown?? Wait the north end of Owen is up by the trainstation???The Rt 59 Metra station??? Yes. Leigh High Station. Lehigh Station is listed as Watts/Still. www.ipsd.org/Documents/NewToDistrict/SubdivisionList07-08.pdfThat's what I was thinking of - Watts, not Cowlishaw will be split. I thought LeHigh was proposed for Watts/Still/WV. And the rest of Watts is current Hill/proposed MV. |
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