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Post by doctorwho on Nov 7, 2007 21:18:22 GMT -6
;D I hear they may be passing the basket a few times -- once for a school on an acceptable site, and a second time for A/C . Goodness! I'll be prepared with a donation! I'll bring the coin jar. No laughs, it's large enough to fund our family vacation at this point. Maybe if we all show up at the next SB meeting with our coin jars ( glad to see there are others besides me with these large jars ) - they can ensure the district gets something that will work for all. |
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Post by macy on Nov 7, 2007 21:19:56 GMT -6
I'm glad that you mentioned passing the basket. It will keep the CFO crowd out. Good one Proschool! We need to watch the basket. |
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Post by macy on Nov 7, 2007 21:23:22 GMT -6
I guess my opinion is that if there is data from Com Ed and the SB's own independent review of the hazard, I'd have to trust that for either site. Also, wouldn't the cities of either Aurora or Naperville have to sign off on the safety of either site? city engineers? planners? It was mentioned earlier in a previous post.. the levels that are deemed to be 'safe' are not entirely agreed upon. I'm sure a certain amount of mercury being played with in one's hands for fun would be considered 'safe' but that doesn't mean people would want to expose their kids to it any more than what must be done. It's like sun and skin cancer. Some choose to protect their kid's skin and go to great degrees, others do not. Same goes for 2nd hand smoke. It's not mercury or sun exposure or second hand smoke. What are the acceptable levels for you in terms of the sub station and the levels it will emit that are dangerous? What's the deal breaker in terms of hazard for you Arch. Name the level of exposure that is unacceptable. ETA: Mercury, sun exposure, and 2nd hand smoke levels should not be a part of the response. Nothing to do with the sub station.  |
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Post by Arch on Nov 7, 2007 21:43:13 GMT -6
It was mentioned earlier in a previous post.. the levels that are deemed to be 'safe' are not entirely agreed upon. I'm sure a certain amount of mercury being played with in one's hands for fun would be considered 'safe' but that doesn't mean people would want to expose their kids to it any more than what must be done. It's like sun and skin cancer. Some choose to protect their kid's skin and go to great degrees, others do not. Same goes for 2nd hand smoke. It's not mercury or sun exposure or second hand smoke. What are the acceptable levels for you in terms of the sub station and the levels it will emit that are dangerous? What's the deal breaker in terms of hazard for you Arch. Name the level of exposure that is unacceptable. ETA: Mercury, sun exposure, and 2nd hand smoke levels should not be a part of the response. Nothing to do with the sub station. I don't live near them, I don't work near them, I avoid them to every degree that I can. That is what is acceptable to me. I'm not happy about lines running by Hill, but there's not a substation there either, so I wait my 3 years for them to be past that and their time outside there is kept to a minimum. |
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Post by EagleDad on Nov 8, 2007 6:15:11 GMT -6
I am purposely restraining myself from making any jokes about passing the basket at church services, and school board candidates.
Must resist...So easy...Control myself...
See, I can play nice :-)
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Post by EagleDad on Nov 8, 2007 6:32:05 GMT -6
I'll be fighting to stay out of St Johns. See you at Wabonsie. Naw, I heard they would send Tallgrass to Waubonsie instead as it is newer subdivision and new to Nequa. (what's that smell, is it gas? I smell a lot of it. Let me light a match and check it out  ) |
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Post by wvhsparent on Nov 8, 2007 7:10:17 GMT -6
I have been trying to be quiet on the Northern site, as I understand it's a minority view (Mine). But I felt it necessary to remind everyone here that the Electrical switching station you speak of is 1/4 mile away from the AME site....Plenty far enough with several parcels between them.
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Post by wvhsparent on Nov 8, 2007 7:14:53 GMT -6
OK I was away at a meeting last nite...Hoo Boy! many pages to read!! I found out why Costco has been included in all the litigation. The have a Restrictive covenant on the rest of the BB property to not allow certain types of establishments, namely Sam's/Walmart and a few others I have never heard of before, for 15 years. I was also told by someone in the know with Aurora, that there will be access to the school from Rt 59. Most likely at the exsisting Traffic light by Lowes. WVHS Parent, Thanks for the info. Can you be more specific in terms of the "restrictive covenant" on the balance of the BB property? Seems kind of bizarre to me. Not standard in a retail contract. Most retailers thrive on locating themselves adjacent to comparable retail competitors. For example, Target looks to find space as close to to a community Walmart, and vice versa. Not saying this isn't the case, but it's beyond the retail norm as I know it. Also, I had already heard about the access off 59. Heard that through the Walmart Rumor grapevine. That was a major point if the SB only purchased 40 acres and lost the frontage off 75th in the pursuit to expand the site at Calvary? No? Here is a copy of the covenent. And yes in the realm of Large retail there are these sorts of thing around. www.savefile.com/files/1180552 |
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Post by harry on Nov 8, 2007 7:16:04 GMT -6
I have been trying to be quiet on the Northern site, as I understand it's a minority view (Mine). But I felt it necessary to remind everyone here that the Electrical switching station you speak of is 1/4 mile away from the AME site....Plenty far enough with several parcels between them. Agreed. Those who oppose this site will use any Tom, Dick and Harry excuse to keep their current boundaries, which were not voted on in the referendum and will be changed. The SB pacified people in order to get the ref passed. They can do ANYTHING they want regarding boundaries,,,and they will. And I beg to differ w/ you ED. White Eagle would move North. |
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Post by harry on Nov 8, 2007 7:20:44 GMT -6
It's not mercury or sun exposure or second hand smoke. What are the acceptable levels for you in terms of the sub station and the levels it will emit that are dangerous? What's the deal breaker in terms of hazard for you Arch. Name the level of exposure that is unacceptable. ETA: Mercury, sun exposure, and 2nd hand smoke levels should not be a part of the response. Nothing to do with the sub station. I don't live near them, I don't work near them, I avoid them to every degree that I can. That is what is acceptable to me. I'm not happy about lines running by Hill, but there's not a substation there either, so I wait my 3 years for them to be past that and their time outside there is kept to a minimum. I am assuming you own/operate a compute,r microwave and a multitude of electrical items in your house. These are daily offenders and ones that you are exposed to 24/7..Does it equal going to school by a substation?? This is subjective at best . |
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Post by Arch on Nov 8, 2007 7:27:26 GMT -6
I don't live near them, I don't work near them, I avoid them to every degree that I can. That is what is acceptable to me. I'm not happy about lines running by Hill, but there's not a substation there either, so I wait my 3 years for them to be past that and their time outside there is kept to a minimum. I am assuming you own/operate a compute,r microwave and a multitude of electrical items in your house. These are daily offenders and ones that you are exposed to 24/7..Does it equal going to school by a substation?? This is subjective at best . The microwave at best gets used 3 minutes a day total. The voltage in a house is 110/120, not several thousand and a laptop emits a very minute amount. Did you miss the part about keeping exposure to a minimum and somehow interpret that as zero exposure? |
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Post by harry on Nov 8, 2007 7:32:39 GMT -6
I am assuming you own/operate a compute,r microwave and a multitude of electrical items in your house. These are daily offenders and ones that you are exposed to 24/7..Does it equal going to school by a substation?? This is subjective at best . The microwave at best gets used 3 minutes a day total. The voltage in a house is 110/120, not several thousand and a laptop emits a very minute amount. Did you miss the part about keeping exposure to a minimum and somehow interpret that as zero exposure? I didn't miss it at all...but I think you missed mine. We have substations BECAUSE of the products we support and continue to use, no matter how 'minimally' one uses them |
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Post by gatormom on Nov 8, 2007 7:42:27 GMT -6
The microwave at best gets used 3 minutes a day total. The voltage in a house is 110/120, not several thousand and a laptop emits a very minute amount. Did you miss the part about keeping exposure to a minimum and somehow interpret that as zero exposure? I didn't miss it at all...but I think you missed mine. We have substations BECAUSE of the products we support and continue to use, no matter how 'minimally' one uses them And that means what, since we use it, we should send our children to school there? We need landfills too, wouldn't live next to one of those either. |
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Post by harry on Nov 8, 2007 7:48:53 GMT -6
I didn't miss it at all...but I think you missed mine. We have substations BECAUSE of the products we support and continue to use, no matter how 'minimally' one uses them And that means what, since we use it, we should send our children to school there? We need landfills too, wouldn't live next to one of those either. This response is so telling and exemplifies what Americans are all about. 'I want everything great for me and mine...let someone else deal with the bad, even though I am the problem.' |
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Post by Arch on Nov 8, 2007 7:50:12 GMT -6
Harry, you use petrochemicals. Go live next to a refinery. You use electricity too. Go live down in Braidwood or out in Byron where some of your power might come from.
You're under no obligation to do that the same as I am under no obligation to live near a substation or send my kids to a place next to one for multiple hours a day.
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