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Post by Arch on Dec 2, 2007 23:16:43 GMT -6
The voters voted for a Mercedes and not a Geo Sprint. That's just the way it turned out.
Wherever it ends up, wait for the boundaries and then make your family decision from there if you feel you need to. Everything else prior is just stress that doesn't do anyone any good.
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Post by macy on Dec 2, 2007 23:20:20 GMT -6
nobody???
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Post by macy on Dec 2, 2007 23:36:06 GMT -6
The voters voted for a Mercedes and not a Geo Sprint. That's just the way it turned out. Wherever it ends up, wait for the boundaries and then make your family decision from there if you feel you need to. Everything else prior is just stress that doesn't do anyone any good. Archwinsome, really? you're okay with that? letting the site selection just happen and... you canl deal? WOW, really? I know you have always had the upmost respect for the SB/district in terms of decision making, but you have NO OPINION on a site decision for METEA? really? Well, and for the record, my family voted for the mercedes... but, we got burned... NO? How does your neighborhood feel? No more money for cars... for my family... we've made some bad decisions. Need to rethink... Those "automakers" don't need any more of my cash.. right" Although, good metaphor... C'mon.... Really? I thought you lived in the Watts area. No opinion? ...... ? Holy crap... I don't believe it... You can't be as altruistic as you claim to be. Why would you waste as much time on this site as you do? And from what you said, you're in Watts, right? Give us your opinion? AME site? great?..... Or not so much?
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Post by Arch on Dec 2, 2007 23:37:48 GMT -6
Personally I do not like AME or 248th for the same reasons: Both Power substation and train tracks right by the property.
As for dealing.. I will not stop the SB from making whatever decision they make, but I will not send my kids to a HS located at either property. I just want them to get the decision part over with so I can start my plans if I have to.
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Post by macy on Dec 2, 2007 23:40:31 GMT -6
Where will you send the kids to school?
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Post by doctorwho on Dec 2, 2007 23:48:15 GMT -6
The voters voted for a Mercedes and not a Geo Sprint. That's just the way it turned out. Wherever it ends up, wait for the boundaries and then make your family decision from there if you feel you need to. Everything else prior is just stress that doesn't do anyone any good. Archwinsome, really? you're okay with that? letting the site selection just happen and... you canl deal? WOW, really? I know you have always had the upmost respect for the SB/district in terms of decision making, but you have NO OPINION on a site decision for METEA? really? Well, and for the record, my family voted for the mercedes... but, we got burned... NO? How does your neighborhood feel? No more money for cars... for my family... we've made some bad decisions. Need to rethink... Those "automakers" don't need any more of my cash.. right" Although, good metaphor... C'mon.... Really? I thought you lived in the Watts area. No opinion? ...... ? Holy crap... I don't believe it... You can't be as altruistic as you claim to be. Why would you waste as much time on this site as you do? And from what you said, you're in Watts, right? Give us your opinion? AME site? great?..... Or not so much? I can tell you how the neighborhood feels -- like any neighborhood that would have it's MS and HS at the far ends of the district - and potentially attend the HS furthest from it house - again. And in fact further away than 8 other high schools - and potentially 12 if it is the site north of I88. I agree with Arch in that I do not believe any amount of wrangling or complaining is going to change the decision that will be made - not that I would be happy with it if it is one of those sites, but already making plans to deal with it if it happens. One side note: I do find it interesting that whenever someone over the past year has mentioned the fact that the vote was also predicated on the site selection - they often got slammed that no it wasn't. It seems that viewpoint is possibly more acceptable now.
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Post by Arch on Dec 2, 2007 23:49:56 GMT -6
Where will you send the kids to school? Right now, based on time the older 2 will graduate from WVHS. If our area is assigned to either location near tracks and power substation, for my other two, I will have to look into any grandfathering rights if I provide all transportation to/from WVHS. That would be my ideal scenario.
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Post by doctorwho on Dec 3, 2007 0:02:35 GMT -6
Where will you send the kids to school? Right now, based on time the older 2 will graduate from WVHS. If our area is assigned to either location near tracks and power substation, for my other two, I will have to look into any grandfathering rights if I provide all transportation to/from WVHS. That would be my ideal scenario. I wonder how many of us here have the same thought Arch, and how many WVHS could handle from this area ? I also would be more than willing to cover all transportation to and from WVHS. If the 3rd school does not open until 2010 - then my last will graduate from WVHS also - as she starts next year. The longer the land decision takes, the easier my decision becomes - and less complicated. Doesn't mean I am not concerned about my area - I am and still feel the same way about those sites, and will continue to voice my opinion - but the effect on my child is far less. The effect becomes more on me as a homeowner here, which is different to deal with than when it affects your child.
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Post by harry on Dec 3, 2007 6:19:35 GMT -6
So sorry Macy that I couldn't help you out last night
My vote, is in this order
1. The current enrollment and its nose dive off of trend points to not funding a 3rd hs. The SB isn't saavy enough to redirect our funds by saying "Whoops, we blew it and now we feel that it would be a HUGE waste of tax payers money to bulldoze forward. Let's instead vote again to redirect the $124.6 m to re work boundaries, add portables and build onto our existing two hs." 2. If the SB continues on their suicide mission, then they need to pick the site that will be good for our collective community for the long term in regards to funding. The same people who use these schools can and will vote down building refs and/or future renovations funds because "The SB makes bad decisions with our tax dollars"
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Post by harry on Dec 3, 2007 6:22:53 GMT -6
Where will you send the kids to school? Right now, based on time the older 2 will graduate from WVHS. If our area is assigned to either location near tracks and power substation, for my other two, I will have to look into any grandfathering rights if I provide all transportation to/from WVHS. That would be my ideal scenario. Why don't you just move now then since it will be hard to sell your current home based on your points above if either site is selected?
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Post by harry on Dec 3, 2007 6:25:21 GMT -6
Right now, based on time the older 2 will graduate from WVHS. If our area is assigned to either location near tracks and power substation, for my other two, I will have to look into any grandfathering rights if I provide all transportation to/from WVHS. That would be my ideal scenario. I wonder how many of us here have the same thought Arch, and how many WVHS could handle from this area ? I also would be more than willing to cover all transportation to and from WVHS. If the 3rd school does not open until 2010 - then my last will graduate from WVHS also - as she starts next year. The longer the land decision takes, the easier my decision becomes - and less complicated. Doesn't mean I am not concerned about my area - I am and still feel the same way about those sites, and will continue to voice my opinion - but the effect on my child is far less. The effect becomes more on me as a homeowner here, which is different to deal with than when it affects your child. What a telling post. But the same goes for you Dr. as Arch. If the 'wrong' site is chosen, your house will be a 'hard sell'. eta..You are willing to allow your child to go to a sssoooooo overly crowded school for the next three years vs. getting a new school built in, your opinion, in 16 months? Overcrowding must take a secondary role to 'graduating with friends/family.' And if it is secondary, then why are we building an unneeded 3rd hs???
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Post by doctorwho on Dec 3, 2007 8:26:04 GMT -6
I wonder how many of us here have the same thought Arch, and how many WVHS could handle from this area ? I also would be more than willing to cover all transportation to and from WVHS. If the 3rd school does not open until 2010 - then my last will graduate from WVHS also - as she starts next year. The longer the land decision takes, the easier my decision becomes - and less complicated. Doesn't mean I am not concerned about my area - I am and still feel the same way about those sites, and will continue to voice my opinion - but the effect on my child is far less. The effect becomes more on me as a homeowner here, which is different to deal with than when it affects your child. What a telling post. But the same goes for you Dr. as Arch. If the 'wrong' site is chosen, your house will be a 'hard sell'. eta..You are willing to allow your child to go to a sssoooooo overly crowded school for the next three years vs. getting a new school built in, your opinion, in 16 months? Overcrowding must take a secondary role to 'graduating with friends/family.' And if it is secondary, then why are we building an unneeded 3rd hs??? harry ( and those you may have been in previous postings) - , since you once again choose to make this personal and tell people how they behave and how they are as parents, residents, voters etc.... here's your response, the same exact way back to you. This will be the last time I respond to your nonsense. It is petty and the telling thing is how bitter you are at , where you live , the people around you as well as life in general from what I can tell. I feel sorry for you, it must be hard to get up every day and face SO much that upsets you. NO ONE wants to send their child to an overcrowded school - and I can tell you Arch and I and others here ( on both sides of BB, and other issues) have worked long and hard - putting in many hours to try and help where we can to pass referendums ( to get a school that IS NEEDED ) - to alleviate overcrowding - while people who do nothing but sit back and armchair quarterback and whine about every outcome and eventuality; the SB, the SD, the people who live in this area, the money they have ( supposedly), the fact that people aren't rioting in the streets etc. All the while offering ZERO for solutions. As far as your unwillingness to stoop so low as to work with those $%^#@ on the SB as you call them - you should be so lucky in your life. Bu ttypical - complain and ridicule, but don't step forward and actually try and do anything about it. Your unwillingness to grasp mathematical concepts that have been laid out for you numerous times, to see the need for the school is beyond anyone trying again to show them to you again and again. BTW - if you actually take the time to read this and comprehend it - it has NOTHING to do with graduating with friends, but you always lower things to the lowest common denominator. As has been explained numerous times, I am not going to have my daughter drive 20 miles or more round trip to and frond HS - it is unsafe ( especially in winter ) - and she is also not gong to spend 90 - 120 minute a day on a bus to get there. And no she is not a spoiled ( or fat/obese or whatever other put down you want to throw out for kids here) child who can't ride the bus - that trip is silly. For Arch it is the electrical wires. And if you actually followed a time line - if arch or I sent our youngest to WVHS - most fo their friends would then be elsewhere- but why let FACTS again get in the way of a good complaint! She will attend a school where VERY FEW kids she knows will be attending. So again the nyah nyah type stuff is absolutely wrong. I am willing to send my child to ANY SCHOOL that is in reasonable distance to my house - period. The northern sites are NOT. If you want to continue to bash everyone and everything around you - go ahead, you'll do so without me, and likely others who have already tired of responding to the constant repetition of complaints, that have no factual basis. When asked to back up with facts - you simply ask different questions to change the subject. It is very tiresome, as you obviously have no desire to make anything better in this SD - just maybe to protect a few precious dollars from leaving your wallet. That is your right to behave like that, but that is not the goal of most people in this district, who have the betterment of their children as the number one goal, and no not all of them are Ken and Barbie, or rich snobs as some of the childish insults hurled have indicated. So that is what is telling, whether it's jealousness of some people around you, or just plain need to try and antogonize anyone, without actually trying to accomplish anything I don't know, but I am one am tired of it,,,,,,,,!!!!!!!,,,,,,,!!!!!!!.
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Post by Arch on Dec 3, 2007 8:38:24 GMT -6
Right now, based on time the older 2 will graduate from WVHS. If our area is assigned to either location near tracks and power substation, for my other two, I will have to look into any grandfathering rights if I provide all transportation to/from WVHS. That would be my ideal scenario. Why don't you just move now then since it will be hard to sell your current home based on your points above if either site is selected? I like where I am at, and I don't plan on selling my house. Even if I did, I could price it the cheapest in the neighborhood and still leave w/ cash in hand so I really don't care about my property value. But, thank you for making an incorrect assumption about my backups plans. It seems to be what you're best at; wrong conclusions.
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Post by momof3 on Dec 3, 2007 10:47:31 GMT -6
Where will you send the kids to school? Right now, based on time the older 2 will graduate from WVHS. If our area is assigned to either location near tracks and power substation, for my other two, I will have to look into any grandfathering rights if I provide all transportation to/from WVHS. That would be my ideal scenario. Aren't there loopholes in attendance areas? Can't any parent request a different school for their child for pretty much any reason if they provide transportation? Has anyone done this and therefore know the procedure?
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Post by momto4 on Dec 3, 2007 10:53:42 GMT -6
Right now, based on time the older 2 will graduate from WVHS. If our area is assigned to either location near tracks and power substation, for my other two, I will have to look into any grandfathering rights if I provide all transportation to/from WVHS. That would be my ideal scenario. Aren't there loopholes in attendance areas? Can't any parent request a different school for their child for pretty much any reason if they provide transportation? Has anyone done this and therefore know the procedure? I know people who have done this. Both times it was in cases of boundary changes and the parents provided transportation to the old school. I don't know what the procedure was but I don't think it was a big deal. As far as choosing a school the student hadn't previously attended (in the case of kids who aren't yet in HS for example) I expect the district would allow this as long as there is enough space.
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